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Raphus C
Feb 17, 2011

CyberLord XP posted:

I want one for comparison for the fifteen or so I'm converting up.

Google image search for inspiration; don't spend £18 on an awful model just for a comparison. You should at least get a cheap wreck off ebay.

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Direwolf
Aug 16, 2004
Fwar

Moola posted:

Rules question because FW is weird at writing rules sometimes:

Can Commander R'Alai leave his drones if he wants to?


I'm not sure if the intention is that he can leave his drones and become a unit of 1, or they meant to write 'he cannot leave or join units, but he and his drones form a unit'.

Pretty sure the intention is that he can't leave or join units except for the one unit he has already joined - the clarification is so you don't deploy him without the drones rather than allowing him to ditch them.

AbusePuppy
Nov 1, 2012

BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!!! so far.

Moola posted:

Rules question because FW is weird at writing rules sometimes:

Can Commander R'Alai leave his drones if he wants to?


I'm not sure if the intention is that he can leave his drones and become a unit of 1, or they meant to write 'he cannot leave or join units, but he and his drones form a unit'.

No, he cannot. A character and any drones they have purchased (or that come with them automatically) are a unit unto themselves- the only way the character can leave them is to die. (Also, for pedantry's sake, note that technically his Drones do not benefit from his Drone Controller because they are not Marker Drones, they are Blacklight Marker Drones, which aren't the same thing. The intention is pretty obvious, though.)

Moola
Aug 16, 2006
Ok cool, that's what I assumed. loving weird rules for that guy tbh.

T5, which he can't take advantage of until his drones die, and he can't not take the drones.

Independent Character rule, but they give him another rule that stops him using it... and like you said, Drone Controller that technically doesn't work with his drones, because they are BLACKLIGHT DRONES, which are identical to Marker Drones in everything but name...

:forgeworld:

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

CyberLord XP posted:

I want one for comparison for the fifteen or so I'm converting up.

Warbuggy: 2" tall to gunners head, just over 2" wide, 3.5" long





or my variant the tri-wheel

Indolent Bastard fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Jul 22, 2014

WhiteOutMouse
Jul 29, 2010

:wom: will blow your mind.

CyberLord XP posted:

I want one for comparison for the fifteen or so I'm converting up.
Aww yeah buggies time in the thread!





They are about 2"(front) x 3"(side) x 1"-2"h

If anything my landspeeders are modeling for advantage, since they will grant cover saves but not enough to matter since they look cool are are fluffy as hell. :orks101:



*I am looking on ebay for some more rescue speeders to defile, even though I painted these things forever ago and there is no way they will match.*

Sir Teabag
Oct 26, 2007
That Helfrost thingy is probably pretty useful for taking out some of the nastier units of Necrons. Since removed from play may not allow them their reanimation protocols. But at I2 I never realized a Necron death star was really that terrifying to anyone.

It would be perfect for AM multiwound models too I guess - because killing guardsmen is such a tricky thing to do!


Oh man! This is glorious!

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
I've just decanted a brand new pot of Ulthuan Grey (mixing it with white for an army) and it was so dried out it blocked the 10mm aperture of the funnel I was using, even with the full content of the pot sitting in the top of the funnel. The pot had never been opened before, the tamper seal was still in place and the lid looked to be properly attached.

Citadel paints are a loving disgrace.

Cataphract
Sep 10, 2004

Fun Shoe
How do grot tanks measure up next to buggies, size wise? I'm thinking I might use them as counts as

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

Cataphract posted:

How do grot tanks measure up next to buggies, size wise? I'm thinking I might use them as counts as

Grot Tanks: 50-60mm wide, 60-70ish mm long and about 55mm high with the turret
Warbuggy: 50mm tall to gunners head, just over 50mm wide, 88mm long

http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/?showtopic=50382

thiswayliesmadness
Dec 3, 2009

I hope to see you next time, and take care all
Go go custom buggies!




Slimnoid
Sep 6, 2012

Does that mean I don't get the job?




Stormwolf posted:

Fast Attack
215 points
Skyhammer launcher is free, meltas are 20 points
Helfrost cannon is 24", can choose between a S6 AP3 Blast or a S8 AP1 hit. It haves the Helfrost special rule, so when a model suffers an unsaved wound from this attack must pass a Strength test or die.



Stormfang posted:

Heavy Attack
220 points
free Skyhammer, Meltas are 20 points, can replace missiles with lascannon for 15 points
Helfrost destructor is 24", either a S6 AP3 Large Blast ora S8 AP1 Lance, see above for Helfrost rule

ANAmal.net
Mar 2, 2002


100% digital native web developer
I'm like actual IRL pissed off at how much better those are than the Dark Angel jets.

Raphus C
Feb 17, 2011
I love the custom buggies. They make me inspired to build more. Seeing what else I can strap wheels and rokkits to is always a fun past time.

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!

ANAmal.net posted:

I'm like actual IRL pissed off at how much better those are than the Dark Angel jets.

The dark angel jets are like infinitely less moronic looking, so there's that.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




JerryLee posted:

The dark angel jets are like infinitely less moronic looking, so there's that.

Are we talking about the same flying cathedral?



Seems like both the Wolves and DA got a dual kit with one good one, and one not quite right one

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

AbusePuppy posted:

No, he cannot. A character and any drones they have purchased (or that come with them automatically) are a unit unto themselves- the only way the character can leave them is to die. (Also, for pedantry's sake, note that technically his Drones do not benefit from his Drone Controller because they are not Marker Drones, they are Blacklight Marker Drones, which aren't the same thing. The intention is pretty obvious, though.)

He can totally leave his drones, they'll just drop to BS2 rather than BS5 with Drone Controller.

e: The codex entry for Drone Controller just says "drones in the unit use the bearer's BS" so I don't know where you're getting the idea that they wouldn't benefit from a drone controller.

ijyt fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jul 22, 2014

Slimnoid
Sep 6, 2012

Does that mean I don't get the job?

ANAmal.net posted:

I'm like actual IRL pissed off at how much better those are than the Dark Angel jets.

At this point I'm just gonna go through the DA book with a fine-tooth comb and fix a bunch of dumb poo poo to make it more in-line with later 6th edition books. The first thing I'm doing is un-loving the Flyers.


NTRabbit posted:

Are we talking about the same flying cathedral?



Seems like both the Wolves and DA got a dual kit with one good one, and one not quite right one

At least the DA flyers don't look like a boxy dog-head, even with a goofy cathedral slapped on top.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

NTRabbit posted:

Are we talking about the same flying cathedral?



Seems like both the Wolves and DA got a dual kit with one good one, and one not quite right one

I love how that thing's main gun is described as "making holes in reality". This apparently translates into an 18" small blast with S5 and AP-. At least it has blind. :downs: This is paired with the ability to hover, but it can't move the turn it does so. It's kind of a cool looking model in a batshit baroque way, but the Nephilim looks way better. More sleek.

theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

Raphus C posted:

I love the custom buggies. They make me inspired to build more. Seeing what else I can strap wheels and rokkits to is always a fun past time.

I made a few of those a few years back for a friend's Ork army. Used whatever was in the bitz box in the house, plus a few of the original ancient buggy kit.





Little dirty looking, but I always liked 'em.

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!

Slimnoid posted:


At least the DA flyers don't look like a boxy dog-head, even with a goofy cathedral slapped on top.

It doesn't even do a good job of looking like a dog head. Like if they took the wolfy wolf helmet on the space wolves sprue and blew it up like 10000% in their 3d modeling program, it'd be a way better base for the flying disembodied dog head.

theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

True but I can't wait til the first pictures of one painted all white with black Snoopy flap ears attached hit the internet. All with a big pink tongue out front.

Deanut Pancer
Nov 24, 2012
Even when I'm having a bad day, ork conversions make me smile. Those eldar bits really complete the mad-max vibe nicely.
In other news, I went in to my local FLGS today - saw 4 Stormclaw boxes on the shelf. Now I need to figure what to do with a bunch of grots...

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011
Do we know when Space Wolves will be? It seems like August?

Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

I feel like I JUST posted these, but... never a bad time, right?


BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat

Isn't the assault ram about 300 points?

Slimnoid
Sep 6, 2012

Does that mean I don't get the job?

BULBASAUR posted:

Isn't the assault ram about 300 points?

275. But everyone worth their salt take ceramite plating which pushes it to 295.

DJ Dizzy
Feb 11, 2009

Real men don't use bolters.
GW actually dropping prices?! That's cheaper than the stormraven! STOP THE PRESSES!

AbusePuppy
Nov 1, 2012

BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!!! so far.

ijyt posted:

He can totally leave his drones, they'll just drop to BS2 rather than BS5 with Drone Controller.

e: The codex entry for Drone Controller just says "drones in the unit use the bearer's BS" so I don't know where you're getting the idea that they wouldn't benefit from a drone controller.

No he can't, any more than a Veteran Sergeant can decide to walk out of his squad to hang out on his own. Models can't just leave their unit because they feel like it.

And Drone Controllers specifically work with Gun Drones, Marker Drones, and Sniper Drones- most people miss that. Other types of drones do not benefit from their effects. (If they did, every one of my lists would include a Commander hanging out with Broadsides to get a bunch of BS5 Missile Drones, because obviously those things aren't good enough already.)

Slimnoid posted:

275. But everyone worth their salt take ceramite plating which pushes it to 295.

There aren't THAT many sources of Skyfire weapons with Melta. Seems like 20pts that could be better spent.

Ghost Hand
Aug 10, 2004

Rampant 40k Fanboy

By the way - if you have questions about it - let me know.

A 50S RAYGUN
Aug 22, 2011

Ghost Hand posted:

By the way - if you have questions about it - let me know.

Red Scorpions changed at all?

Hencoe
Sep 4, 2012

MY LIFE GOAL IS TO STICK A FLESHLIGHT INTO THE END OF A HOWITZER AND FUCK THE SHIT OUT OF IT

Ghost Hand posted:

By the way - if you have questions about it - let me know.

How do you get them so fast, mine is still awaiting packaging.
Real question, has there been any changes to the TGCs?
E: Tell us EVERYTHING!

Hencoe fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Jul 23, 2014

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

Might as well just give us a rundown of what changed, because I want to know about the Elysians.

my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler
Tell us about the IG units/lists Ghost Hand :love:

HiveCommander
Jun 19, 2012

What about the 'Nid stuff that hasn't been leaked yet? So far we know about the Fedorasaur (good stats, bad rules), Stonecrushers (look pretty promising) and the Malanthrope (harder to kill Venomthrope for +35pts? :swoon:).

Slimnoid
Sep 6, 2012

Does that mean I don't get the job?

AbusePuppy posted:

There aren't THAT many sources of Skyfire weapons with Melta. Seems like 20pts that could be better spent.

It's a transport, it'll have to drop off its load at some point.

AbusePuppy
Nov 1, 2012

BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!!!! so far.

Slimnoid posted:

It's a transport, it'll have to drop off its load at some point.

Sure, but at that point it's already done its job, so it's not really a big deal if they decide to after-the-fact target it with all their Meltaguns.

drgnvale
Apr 30, 2004

A sword is not cutlery!
I kind of like the way it looks. I'm tempted to buy one to go with the stormclaw wolves I picked up over the weekend... this is how armies start :sigh:

So compared to the Storm Raven, the transport version has the remove from play gun, more model capacity (I think; my SM codex is still packed up) and looks more like a dog.

The Storm Raven is cheaper, has access to 1-2 storm talon escorts, and doesn't it have a dangerous way of dropping off troops without going into hover? I really hope my Space Wolves buddy gets at least one of these so I can start fielding more fliers without ruining the fun.

Edit: vvv Oh yeah! Man, if I field that thing I'm going to find an extra 100 pts to drop a normal dread down. I need to play an apocalypse size game so I can bring all of my toys.

Edit 2: Ugh, even 3000 points is not enough to field all of the space marine stuff I want to use.

drgnvale fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Jul 23, 2014

DJ Dizzy
Feb 11, 2009

Real men don't use bolters.

drgnvale posted:

I kind of like the way it looks. I'm tempted to buy one to go with the stormclaw wolves I picked up over the weekend... this is how armies start :sigh:

So compared to the Storm Raven, the transport version has the remove from play gun, more model capacity (I think; my SM codex is still packed up) and looks more like a dog.

The Storm Raven is cheaper, has access to 1-2 storm talon escorts, and doesn't it have a dangerous way of dropping off troops without going into hover? I really hope my Space Wolves buddy gets at least one of these so I can start fielding more fliers without ruining the fun.

The Stormraven can transport a dreadnought aswell, which is 10 kinds of awesome as blood angels.

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Strength of Many
Jan 13, 2012

The butthurt is the life... and it shall be mine.

HiveCommander posted:

What about the 'Nid stuff that hasn't been leaked yet? So far we know about the Fedorasaur (good stats, bad rules), Stonecrushers (look pretty promising) and the Malanthrope (harder to kill Venomthrope for +35pts? :swoon:).


On a semi-related note, how do you Tyranid players run your army without wanting to buy literally everything? Even the bad models are kind of good in a goofy way.

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