Arch Linux: "Keep it Simple"

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theadder: Dec 30, 2011

Mr Dog posted:

have you considered a fedora, op?

# ? Jul 30, 2014 13:10

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 09:44

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

arch owns i bet this isnt hard and the OP is a noob

# ? Jul 30, 2014 13:15

Tiny Bug Child: Sep 11, 2004; Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

i'm still pretty sure the only difference between the linuxes is what you type to install new stuff.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 13:19

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

Tiny Bug Child posted:

i'm still pretty sure the only difference between the linuxes is what you type to install new stuff.

they have different startup scripts

at least, they used to. i think it was system v versus bsd-style?

# ? Jul 30, 2014 13:21

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

prefect posted:

they have different startup scripts

at least, they used to. i think it was system v versus bsd-style?

and now we got systemd as well

# ? Jul 30, 2014 13:32

cowboy beepboop: Feb 24, 2001

lol if you're not using fedora

# ? Jul 30, 2014 13:36

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat

YOPSPOS - Your Package System is a Piece of poo poo

rpm sucks, yum sucks

# ? Jul 30, 2014 13:41

A Wheezy Steampunk: Jul 16, 2006; High School Grads Eligible!

atomicthumbs posted:

I think Ubuntu is pretty cool. It's totally free, and did you know it means "peace" in African?

it's actually african for "unable to configure debian" :xd:

# ? Jul 30, 2014 13:44

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

and now we got systemd as well

good

about time that these pointless differences were swept away now that we have all been united under a benevolent strong-willed german leader

# ? Jul 30, 2014 13:57

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

my stepdads beer posted:

lol if you're not using fedora

i'm afedora

# ? Jul 30, 2014 14:15

maniacdevnull: Apr 18, 2007; FOUR CUBIC FRAMES
DISPROVES SOFT G GOD
YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID

z0rlandi viSSer posted:

# ? Jul 30, 2014 15:13

The Management: Jan 2, 2010; sup, bitch?

windows is a goddamn piece of garbage operating system but it doesn't make me edit a conf file during a software upgrade to keep the UI working. this is why nobody will ever use a linux desktop.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 15:26

Captain Foo: May 11, 2004; we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Lutha Mahtin posted:

does it support my taxi custom encrypted lvm scheme

# ? Jul 30, 2014 16:56

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

The Management posted:

windows is a goddamn piece of garbage operating system but it doesn't make me edit a conf file during a software upgrade to keep the UI working. this is why nobody will ever use a linux desktop.

Make you? It's literally the appeal of arch.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 17:00

GameCube: Nov 21, 2006

gently caress linux!

# ? Jul 30, 2014 17:03

ShadowHawk: Jun 25, 2000; CERTIFIED PRE OWNED TESLA OWNER

The Management posted:

windows is a goddamn piece of garbage operating system but it doesn't make me edit a conf file during a software upgrade to keep the UI working. this is why nobody will ever use a linux desktop.

no no you see this way you LEARN LINUX unlike those distros that hand-hold for you

# ? Jul 30, 2014 17:20

salisbury shake: Dec 27, 2011

Debian rules.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 17:27

Cold on a Cob: Feb 6, 2006; i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually; College Slice

ShadowHawk posted:

no no you see this way you LEARN LINUX unlike those distros that hand-hold for you

i think linux users should learn more about suicide

# ? Jul 30, 2014 17:31

Rivethead: Feb 22, 2008

/dev/null

# ? Jul 30, 2014 18:06

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

whenever i try to learn linux when a thing breaks i just end up copy pasting a bunch of poo poo i dont know what it does from some forum into the te4rminal

# ? Jul 30, 2014 18:09

THE BIG DOG DADDY: Oct 16, 2013; Rasheed was, with Aliases, the top 7 PvPers in Bone Krew.

No one talks about this.

i just use a mac because my time is better spent posting

# ? Jul 30, 2014 18:12

Phoenixan: Jan 16, 2010; Just Keep Cool-idge

atomicthumbs posted:

I think Ubuntu is pretty cool. It's totally free, and did you know it means "peace" in African?

14.04 is a piece of poo poo. the first thing i did after installing was move a firefox window from one workspace to another and it crashed unity. i'd blame my hardware but 13.04 & 13.10 didn't do this poo poo.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 19:06

A Wheezy Steampunk: Jul 16, 2006; High School Grads Eligible!

Phoenixan posted:

14.04 is a piece of poo poo. the first thing i did after installing was move a firefox window from one workspace to another and it crashed unity. i'd blame my hardware but 13.04 & 13.10 didn't do this poo poo.

do you still have to edit xorg.conf and fstab to do really basic things?

# ? Jul 30, 2014 19:09

Wayne Knight: May 11, 2006

arch is linux for people that don't like using computers, only setting them up. i've met more than one person that got excited when they found out I use linux, only for them to become really confused when they find out I don't switch to a different disto as soon as I have a working system.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 19:22

Wayne Knight: May 11, 2006

also linux is good now, just use fedora. cunty just has to do things the hard way because if gnome point releases had a physical manifestation she'd be camped out like it's the goddamn apple store.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 19:25

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

gnome owns p hard though

# ? Jul 30, 2014 20:02

atomicthumbs: Dec 26, 2010; We're in the business of extending man's senses.

I had been thinking of installing Gentoo on this Power Mac G3, since it looked like it had good PowerPC support and it'd be nice to be able to boot Linux to deal with all the disk formats Windows and Mac OS 9 couldn't. Then I read the documentation

quote:

To help users in deciding what to install/activate and what not, we wanted the user to specify his/her environment in an easy way. This forces the user into deciding what they really want and eases the process for Portage, our package management system, to make useful decisions.

Enter the USE flags. Such a flag is a keyword that embodies support and dependency-information for a certain concept. If you define a certain USE flag, Portage will know that you want support for the chosen keyword. Of course this also alters the dependency information for a package.

There are two types of USE flags: global and local USE flags.

A global USE flag is used by several packages, system-wide. This is what most people see as USE flags.

A local USE flag is used by a single package to make package-specific decisions.

Code Listing 2.1: Cumulative make.defaults USE variable for the 13.0 profile
(This example is the sum of the settings in base, default/linux,
default/linux/x86 and default/linux/x86/13.0/)
code:
USE="a52 aac acpi alsa branding cairo cdr dbus dts dvd dvdr emboss encode exif
fam firefox flac gif gpm gtk hal jpeg lcms ldap libnotify mad mikmod mng mp3
mp4 mpeg ogg opengl pango pdf png ppds qt3support qt4 sdl spell
startup-notification svg tiff truetype vorbis unicode usb X xcb x264 xml xv
xvid"

Why the gently caress would they do this :shepicide:

# ? Jul 30, 2014 20:22

Sweevo: Nov 8, 2007; i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

linux is really bad. please do not use it :ohdear:

# ? Jul 30, 2014 20:26

Silver Alicorn: Mar 30, 2008; 𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

remember when I posted that thread about arch and I couldn't get the fonts to look remotely good

# ? Jul 30, 2014 20:29

Moo Cowabunga: Jun 15, 2009; [Office Worker.

why is this a "poo poo post"? :ohdear:

# ? Jul 30, 2014 20:31

Tankakern: Jul 25, 2007

gentoo with systemd is the best

you can have gentoo without openrc now

# ? Jul 30, 2014 20:41

atomicthumbs: Dec 26, 2010; We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Tankakern posted:

gentoo with systemd is the best

you can have gentoo without openrc now

How about "gentoo without a literal list of random words as how you want things configured"

# ? Jul 30, 2014 21:32

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

the best thing about arch is the wiki, it's a good reference

imo they should just ditch the distribution and maintain the wiki full time

# ? Jul 30, 2014 21:51

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

salisbury shake posted:

Debian rules.

this is a correct opinion. debian is the good linux.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 21:59

Moo Cowabunga: Jun 15, 2009; [Office Worker.

is there an angry cow linux? cos if there is that is the best one.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 22:05

Phoenixan: Jan 16, 2010; Just Keep Cool-idge

A Wheezy Steampunk posted:

do you still have to edit xorg.conf and fstab to do really basic things?

haven't had to touch fstab in a long time, but last time i did, it was because my second hdd wouldn't mount.

# ? Jul 30, 2014 22:33

skeevy achievements: Feb 25, 2008; by merry exmarx

I like working with the Linux kernel a lot

everything else in the Linux ecosystem can go gently caress itself tho

# ? Jul 30, 2014 22:50

Hugh G. Rectum: Mar 1, 2011

Internaut! posted:

I like working with the Linux kernel a lot

everything else in the Linux ecosystem can go gently caress itself tho

if your linux is running xorg you aren't using it right. it's meant to sit in a corner with no monitor and never be touched. much like its devs.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:00

atomicthumbs: Dec 26, 2010; We're in the business of extending man's senses.

quote:

The Portage system offers the use of "USE flags", which allows users to indicate which software features they would like to include (and exclude) while building packages. For example, there is a USE flag to include DVD support, where available, in packages compiled with the flag enabled. The USE flags affect which dependencies are required, generally affecting which optional features will be built into a given program when it is compiled. For example, in packages which use a configure script, the USE flag feature would translate to ./configure --with-feature.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:34

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# ? Apr 29, 2024 09:44

EMILY BLUNTS: Jan 1, 2005

the best part of the USE flag is that none of the packages standardize on it or use the flag in a different way, so something designed to save you from ./configure -dicks -puppies -kitten -1 -2 -3 -4 -5 -6 -7 requires you to add and remove them when you find out that make fails or the program doesn't do The Thing

# ? Jul 31, 2014 04:34

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