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I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Good news everyone

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Jobless treated same as offenders

People who are asked to join the Abbott government's overhauled work-for-the-dole program may end up doing the same work, and working alongside, people completing court-ordered community service for breaking the law.

The Abbott government revealed details this week of what will constitute work-for-the-dole activities under its proposed regime, saying the activities will be designed to help job seekers ''give something back to the community''.

But the types of jobs it has in mind - landscaping jobs, repair work on community halls, and working in Salvation Army centres - may be exactly the same as court-ordered community service placements.

A spokeswoman for Assistant Employment Minister Luke Hartsuyker said the government could not ensure people who work for the dole would not end up working alongside people completing community service.

''There's nothing that would prevent activities being conducted by both community-service orders and work for the dole at the same premises,'' the spokeswoman said.

''But work for the dole is preserved for people on income support.''

But Ashley Geelan, 36, says when he heard about the government's proposed work-for-the-dole activities they sounded exactly the same as activities he once had to do to complete court-ordered community service for a number of traffic offences.

Mr Geelan, from Victoria, said after he completed court-ordered community service in 2009, he joined a work-for-the-dole program but he wound up back at the same place, doing the same thing.

He also said he worked on three separate projects - sweeping the car park at Reservoir railway station, working at a Salvation Army store in Doncaster, and helping repair the Kinglake Ranges Neighbourhood House - that had a mix of work-for-the-dole workers and those doing court-ordered community work.

The experience was ''demoralising'' because it made him feel like he was being punished for being unemployed, he said.

''When you're trying to turn your life around and you end back up at the same place where you were doing community service, it's like you're being treated like a criminal,'' Mr Geelan said.

David Thompson, the chief executive of Jobs Australia, said that was ''exactly'' what the government wanted. ''Working off the consequences of a bad deed, which is what a community-service order is in a negative sense, shouldn't be translated into being punished for being unemployed, which is exactly what they're doing,'' he said.

''They need to make sure they don't mix up people who shouldn't be mixed up.''

Under the Abbott government's proposed work-for-the-dole program, program co-ordinators will work with local community organisations and employment service providers to find suitable activities and placements for job seekers.

They will mostly be found in the non-profit sector and in community-based organisations.

They may involve one person working in a Salvation Army op-shop, or teams painting a hall.

''The activities are designed to allow job seekers to give something back to the community and will reflect the specific needs and priorities of different regions,'' a spokeswoman for Mr Hartsuyker said.

The government's model for finding work-for-the-dole jobs is similar to models used to find community-work placements.

Victoria's Department of Justice uses a business unit, called Community Correctional Services, to forge partnerships with local community organisations to find jobs for court-ordered community work that will benefit the local community.

It can find placements for individuals, or work for teams of up to 12 people. They work for charities, non-profit organisations, councils and community groups.

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Andrew Forrest�s revolution for welfare

ABOUT 2.5 million welfare �recipients on �working-age �payments�, including disability support pensioners and carers, would be forced into a cashless world where 100 per cent of their payments were income managed and they were banned from purchasing �prohibited� goods.

The radical proposal is �contained in mining magnate Andrew Forrest�s blueprint for indigenous welfare and employment, which he has delivered to the Abbott government.

Under Mr Forrest�s plan, all welfare recipients, including non-indigenous Australians � but with the exception of aged pensioners and veterans � would be forced into income management with no discretionary spending.

Mr Forrest also wants all families receiving family tax benefits to have access to the money directly linked to school attendance of their children.

The ideas go beyond Mr Forrest�s immediate brief, but he �argues in the report that it is necessary to �create a welfare system that is non-discriminatory and deals with all welfare disadvantage equally.

It is understood the �report will be released soon. Mr Forrest has briefed senior state and federal officials in several states. He has briefed a meeting of the Prime Minister�s indigenous council.

The Abbott government is unlikely to support the explosive recommendation on the basis it is impractical and goes a step too far. Mr Forrest has been adamant all his proposals must be adopted for �entrenched welfare dependence to end.

He argues that the income-management system should be altered, commercialised and run by the banks, and rolled out to a broader range of welfare recipients, both black and white.

Mr Forrest believes technology exists that would make it possible to ban the purchase of certain products, including �alcohol and cigarettes, with the value of quarantined welfare payments being added to bank-controlled cards, known as �healthy welfare cards�.

It would give these welfare recipients no �access to real money, quarantining all welfare payments for �essentials, including rent and food.

The report also says that temporary exemptions allowing people on payments not to have to look for work � sometimes for up to three months � should be dumped. About 10 per cent of all people on payments, including New�start Allowance, that require them to look for a job have an �activity exemption� at any given time for reasons �including illness or domestic �violence. Mr Forrest wants those �people to have contact with job providers, attend appointments and look for work.

The government has guaranteed income management only until June next year, saying it will wait for advice from Mr Forrest�s review and Patrick McClure�s review of the entire welfare system before deciding on its future. Mr McClure�s review supports income management but does not argue for a dramatic expansion.

The Forrest report has concluded that quarantining welfare payments is supported widely and �very valuable�, with many stakeholders reporting that it has greatly helped their families. By allowing banks to run a new scheme, poor people and disadvantaged indigenous Australians could be brought into the mainstream economy, it says.

It criticises the BasicsCard, introduced by the previous Labor government, as being flawed, expensive and having a huge stigma attached to it. Almost 24,000 people are income-managed, about 20,000 of them in the Northern Territory. The number of people with their welfare benefits quarantined for essential living expenses rose by a record 500 per cent last year.

Earlier this year, Social Services Minister Kevin Andrews described income management as a success and said he was considering a broader application. He told The Australian income management was effective in helping families manage their budgets and �stabilise their lives� but he would not say what would happen after June next year.

As part of the 2014-15 budget, income management is being rolled out to the Ceduna region in South Australia from Tuesday for 12 months.

It will continue for one year in indigenous communities in the Northern Territory; the Anangu Pitjantjatjara Yankunytjatjara Lands of South Australia; and the Kimberley region, Laverton Shire and the Ngaanyatjarra Lands in Western Australia. It is also funded to December 31 next year in Cape York. Income management in the metropolitan areas of Greater Shepparton, Rockhampton, Logan, Playford and Bankstown also is funded until next July. The Abbott government has provided $101.1 million in 2014-15 to extend income management in existing locations for one year.

Under the child-protection and �supporting people at risk� measures of income management, 70 per cent of Centrelink payments are set aside for necessities. For people on other measures of income management, half their welfare payments is set aside for necessities.

The Abbott government was handed Mr Forrest�s 230-page report, which calls for radical changes to the nation�s indigenous jobs strategy and the rollout of integrated childhood services that target kids from conception to the age of three years, a few weeks ago.

The report calls for Aborigines who leave remote communities to take up jobs to be handed �support packages� that include secure accommodation, rent advances and case management. Indigenous people who take work would be allowed to stay in social housing, provided cheaply by the government, for 2� years, before being forced into the private system. The current rules do not allow people earning real wages to receive social housing. Mr Forrest believes indigenous people are afraid of losing cheap housing deals when they obtain work and wants the new system to address this.

His review calls for 200 communities to be targeted, with the goal of transforming the lives of children and ensuring they are able to go into jobs, education or training when they come of age. It calls for co-location and co-ordination of health, nutrition and other support services in schools or nearby in community hubs, with a single point of �accountability� on how children are progressing to ensure they do not fall behind and spend a lifetime on welfare.

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Gough Suppressant: Nov 14, 2008

Lmao, kill yourself twiggy you piece of poo poo.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 00:53

monolithburger: Sep 7, 2011

Gee, I thought unemployment was completely demoralising now. But, I guess if the system isn't completely stripping away agency, opportunity and any esteem within society until us bludgers just kill our are selves already, then it's clearly broken.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 00:54

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

It can't be long until food stamps are seriously proposed. Given the choice I'd take national service over income management in a heartbeat.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 01:05

i got banned: Sep 24, 2010; lol abbottwon

Imagine if Australians had any backbone whatsover and we hung these pieces of poo poo in the town square and burnt their children on pyres whilst they looked on and in their final moments of life realised the awful poo poo they had done to our society by being horrible Tory pieces of poo poo.
Just imagine.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 01:11

Small Keating: Dec 24, 2012; That you, Jim? Paul Keating here. Just because you swallowed a fucking dictionary when you were about 15 doesn't give you the right to pour a bucket of shit over the rest of us.

ShoeFly posted:

That's what Jacqui Lambie has suggested instead of work for the dole.

As I have expressed to TOML on multiple occasions, it would appear that 99% of our elected officials do not have the capacity or understanding necessary to cobble together a plan any more considered than gently caress IT, WE'LL DO IT LIVE (except presumably to pork barrel like gently caress a year out from the election), and it is loving exasperating beyond belief. They are just making this poo poo up as they go along.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 01:13

Seagull: Oct 9, 2012; give me a chip

open24hours posted:

It can't be long until food stamps are seriously proposed. Given the choice I'd take national service over income management in a heartbeat.

I'd still rather kill myself than others.

Or at least the others service would entail killing.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 01:14

Drugs: Jul 16, 2010; I don't like people who take drugs. Customs agents, for example - Albert Einstein

Sounds like Twiggy really has his finger on the pulse of What Aboriginals Need

# ? Jul 31, 2014 01:29

duck monster: Dec 15, 2004

I'm a member of a couple of facebook groups that are involved with campaigning on behalf of the Yinjibardni and a few other Kimberly aboriginal groups, and those folks hate Andrew Forrest with the fire of 1000 suns. He's public enemy #1 to the blackfullas.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 01:39

Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

open24hours posted:

It can't be long until food stamps are seriously proposed. Given the choice I'd take national service over income management in a heartbeat.

Please try and keep up:

http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/enablers/centrelink/income-management/basicscard

Been in place for years.

Quantum Mechanic posted:

Adding to the SHY dogpile, she's also been behind pushes at National Conference to liberalise the Greens policy platform wrt private education, private health and various other forms of handouts to the wealthy.

Or at least she has been the tip of pushes started by a certain ex-leader who will remain nameless. Also she's really petty and rude to Dear Leader Lee Rhiannon, which is an unforgivable crime.

SA's not all bad, though, I talked to Mark Parnell at NC the other weekend and he's super chill. You guys should make him your Senate candidate.

None of this sounds good. On a realpolitik level either the Greens explicitly start to champion woman's rights and refuse to play the patriarchy game or they accept the political costs of fielding female candidates. SHY has at least had a kid so can't be accused of being barren but is a divorced (Jezebel) single mum (Bludger).

Jacqui Lambie continues to disappoint entertainingly.

Are we counting bad things (news.com style) from this administration? :siren:

FOUR (4) :siren:

days since NTATA intervened with the AFP in the Ukraine. Four days where there has been no access to the crash site. Operation "Bring Them Home" in tatters.

duck monster posted:

I'm a member of a couple of facebook groups that are involved with campaigning on behalf of the Yinjibardni and a few other Kimberly aboriginal groups, and those folks hate Andrew Forrest with the fire of 1000 suns. He's public enemy #1 to the blackfullas.

Paint me shocked :allears:

# ? Jul 31, 2014 01:47

Serrath: Mar 17, 2005; I have nothing of value to contribute; Ham Wrangler

Who the hell is Andrew Forrest? I kept seeing his name in print and I assumed he was an economist or a politician but I just googled him and he owns a mining company? Why is his opinion even being canvassed much less seriously considered?

# ? Jul 31, 2014 01:53

Ragingsheep: Nov 7, 2009

Serrath posted:

Who the hell is Andrew Forrest? I kept seeing his name in print and I assumed he was an economist or a politician but I just googled him and he owns a mining company? Why is his opinion even being canvassed much less seriously considered?

Rich people are obviously very smart and should run the country.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 01:55

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

Cartoon posted:

Please try and keep up:

http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/enablers/centrelink/income-management/basicscard

Been in place for years.

Yeah, I meant for everyone.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 01:56

Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

open24hours posted:

Yeah, I meant for everyone.

The day they issue Gina Rinehart with a basics card is the day I vote National.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 02:06

open24hours: Jan 7, 2001

Ol' Dirty Rinehart

# ? Jul 31, 2014 02:07

Schneider Inside Her: Aug 6, 2009; Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman

Work For The Dole: definitely not punishment.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 02:07

Paingod556: Nov 8, 2011; Not a problem, sir

Serrath posted:

Who the hell is Andrew Forrest? I kept seeing his name in print and I assumed he was an economist or a politician but I just googled him and he owns a mining company? Why is his opinion even being canvassed much less seriously considered?

Rich guy who is the champion for blackfellas since he gives them mining jobs, and also for the poor downtrodden mining companies under fire from the Mining Tax

Also infamous for running a few different companies right into the ground. Used to work IT for one of them, half a year later they laid off the entire department when (shock) the price of ore went down. Which everyone but Twiggy saw coming.

He's basically a well meaning but disconnected rich idiot. Compared to Clive and Gina, he's a nonentity as much as he thinks otherwise

# ? Jul 31, 2014 02:12

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

quote:

Detention centre inquiry hears claims of Immigration cover-up
By Rebecca Barrett

The national inquiry into children in immigration detention has heard evidence of attempts by the Federal Government to cover up the extent of mental health problems.

Psychiatrist Dr Peter Young was the director of mental health services at International Health and Medical Services (IHMS) until earlier this month.

He said IHMS provided a report to the department in the last few weeks and that the reaction was "negative".

He went on to say that "the department reacted with alarm and asked us to withdraw the figures from our report".

Look over there, a distraction!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-31/detention-centre-inquiry-hears-claims-of-immigration-cover-up/5637654

# ? Jul 31, 2014 02:30

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

Sean R-Dunlop @seanrubinsztein

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Young children on Xmas Is regressed to bed wetting, nightmares; boys aged 14/15 crying most of the time: Prof Elliott #HRInquiry

Pediatrics expert Prof Elizabeth Elliot now giving evidence at #HRinquiry. She interviewed 200 detainees on Xmas Island this month @abc730

That evidence was from doctors Grant Ferguson & John-Paul Sanggaran, GPs at Xmas Island detention centre in 2013 #HRinquiry @abc730

Dr Ferguson says he was sometimes asked to diagnose medicine without ever seeing patients #HRinquiry "It's not standard practise," he says.

Boy arrived at Xmas Is without hearing aid in 2013. He wasnt provided one, got teased, started to self harm: doctors #HRinquiry @abc730

No paediatric care at Xmas Island, child detainees with severe health problems. 'Abysmal': doctors (July-Nov 2013) #HRinquiry @abc730

On Xmas Is, we routinely ran out of basic medical supplies, incl IV fluids, scalpels. Severe shortages of meds: doctors #HRInquiry @abc730

I never saw child psychologist/psychiatrist at Xmas Island in my four months there (Jul-Nov 2013): doctor #HRInquiry @abc730

Little done to limit infectious diseases at Xmas Island - gastro, scabes, worms, dental infections: doctors #HRInquiry @abc730

'Shortage of meds at Xmas Island a huge problem.' Asylum seekers' meds destroyed on arrival w/out record keeping: doctors

Kids came to Xmas Island dehydrated, covered in vomit, excrement; processed without food, water, clean clothes: doctors #HRInquiry @abc730

help I want to die.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 02:32

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Poor Tone's flight got diverted to Hobart because of the wild weather in Launceston, maybe nature is telling him to gently caress off.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 02:34

Ol Sweepy: Nov 28, 2005; Safety First

SynthOrange posted:

Sean R-Dunlop @seanrubinsztein

help I want to die.

Holy poo poo. This turned my stomach. I think I'm going to go outside and stand in the sunshine for a little while.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 02:36

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN: Jun 26, 2009

Captain Pissweak posted:

I'd still rather kill myself than others.

Or at least the others service would entail killing.

This is, unironically, my plan for if I lose my job. Just kill yourself. The only thing to do is try and hold on for the duration and hope we can get rid of the destructive parasites before too much of this poo poo becomes the new normal. I've got young school age nieces and nephews etc and I do not envy their future at all.

SynthOrange posted:

Sean R-Dunlop @seanrubinsztein

help I want to die.

Has Anjelina Jolie been to Manus island yet? It's the most realistic way to get the word out about how we're treating people there.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Jul 31, 2014

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:00

BCR: Jan 23, 2011

https://www.lifeline.org.au/

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:03

BogDew: Jun 14, 2006; E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

SynthOrange posted:

Sean R-Dunlop @seanrubinsztein

help I want to die.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:13

Those On My Left: Jun 25, 2010

where the gently caress is labor on this

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:16

Cartoon: Jun 20, 2008; poop

Those On My Left posted:

where the gently caress is labor on this

Complicit

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:17

AVeryLargeRadish: Aug 19, 2011; I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Those On My Left posted:

where the gently caress is labor on this

As far to the right as they think they need to be in order to win votes from the sociopathic xenophobes known as the australian public.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:19

Pickled Tink: Apr 28, 2012; Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.

Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.; Fun Shoe

Well, I just got back from my appointment with my JSA. They have decided that they are going to throw me into one of those in-house training courses, and my consultant let me read the course description thing. It was initially presented as a choice, but my consultant said he'd sign me up anyway.

Duration: 5 Days, 6 hours a day 9:30am-3:30pm
Designed for: Streams 2-4
People: 10-12
Cost: $800 per person

This looks spectacularly like they are trying to turn government funding into revenue. A bunch of poo poo about SMART or whatever in the course day by day description on the sheet. Setting goals, meeting them, etc. Almost all the stuff in there is stuff I know that I know already, and the rest looks like vague generalization crap.

My consultant said that I should have goals and know where I am going. I told him I did, that in ten months time I would be going into Crime.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:24

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Serrath posted:

Who the hell is Andrew Forrest? I kept seeing his name in print and I assumed he was an economist or a politician but I just googled him and he owns a mining company? Why is his opinion even being canvassed much less seriously considered?

He's a rich dude with a good PR company. Pretty much hated within the construction industry because he keeps refusing to pay subcontractors until they literally go bankrupt.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:25

selan dyin: Dec 27, 2007

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Poor Tone's flight got diverted to Hobart because of the wild weather in Launceston, maybe nature is telling him to gently caress off.

Unfortunately our weather down here isn't wild enough to divert the plane to antarctica, one can only hope though :v:

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:36

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

SynthOrange posted:

Young children on Xmas Is regressed to bed wetting, nightmares; boys aged 14/15 crying most of the time: Prof Elliott #HRInquiry

Proof of the lies and exaggerations of the liberal media. All children are not self-poisoning/harming, it's a tough situation - Scott Hitler Morrison.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:39

Small Keating: Dec 24, 2012; That you, Jim? Paul Keating here. Just because you swallowed a fucking dictionary when you were about 15 doesn't give you the right to pour a bucket of shit over the rest of us.

Pickled Tink posted:

Well, I just got back from my appointment with my JSA. They have decided that they are going to throw me into one of those in-house training courses, and my consultant let me read the course description thing. It was initially presented as a choice, but my consultant said he'd sign me up anyway.

Duration: 5 Days, 6 hours a day 9:30am-3:30pm
Designed for: Streams 2-4
People: 10-12
Cost: $800 per person

This looks spectacularly like they are trying to turn government funding into revenue. A bunch of poo poo about SMART or whatever in the course day by day description on the sheet. Setting goals, meeting them, etc. Almost all the stuff in there is stuff I know that I know already, and the rest looks like vague generalization crap.

My consultant said that I should have goals and know where I am going. I told him I did, that in ten months time I would be going into Crime.

Yeah, I have been working with a consultancy that works with JSAs, and the JSAs are very keen to start up their own RTOs and direct government funding that should be going to the education of job seekers, back into their own pockets. They are scum.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:40

monolithburger: Sep 7, 2011

Pickled Tink posted:

Well, I just got back from my appointment with my JSA. They have decided that they are going to throw me into one of those in-house training courses, and my consultant let me read the course description thing. It was initially presented as a choice, but my consultant said he'd sign me up anyway.

Duration: 5 Days, 6 hours a day 9:30am-3:30pm
Designed for: Streams 2-4
People: 10-12
Cost: $800 per person

This looks spectacularly like they are trying to turn government funding into revenue. A bunch of poo poo about SMART or whatever in the course day by day description on the sheet. Setting goals, meeting them, etc. Almost all the stuff in there is stuff I know that I know already, and the rest looks like vague generalization crap.

My consultant said that I should have goals and know where I am going. I told him I did, that in ten months time I would be going into Crime.

I am currently wagging the one I was meant to do this week because I didn't realise it was 5 days instead of 1 and I have more important (and useful) commitments this week...and anxiety.

The one day I attended on Monday was filled with 'activities' like brainstorming the skills and qualities employers look for and the kind of jobs you could do in the area each person was interested in. For 4 1/2 hours.

Look up/memorise the Employment Services Code of Conduct and push your JSA to put you into something (preferably external) that is actually relevant to your situation and interests while quoting that they they themselves also have a commitment to provide relevant and accurate service amongst others.

Good luck!

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:41

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Coming soon to a property bubble near you:

:commissar:

quote:

First-timers could soon use super to buy property

Posted on Monday, July 28 2014 at 1:36 PM

First homebuyers trying to enter the booming property market might soon be able to use their own superannuation as a deposit for a first home.

Independent Senator for South Australia Nick Xenophon will introduce legislative changes in the spring session of parliament, which could have a profound impact on the way first homebuyers purchase property and enter the market.

For the first time, a proposal would allow first homebuyers to access their superannuation and use this as a deposit, rather than saving for years and years.

The scheme would be based on a similar one in Canada, which is known as the Home Buyers� Plan.

In Canada, up to $25,000 can be accessed for a first home and the amount has to be paid back into the super fund within 15 years.

�With more and more Australians finding it difficult to break into home ownership, (and) adopting the Canadian scheme would make a difference to many thousands of Australians each year,� Xenophon says.

He adds housing affordability in Australia has fallen for the past three decades, as house prices outstrip income growth.

This year�s annual affordability survey by Demographia found Australia had the second-worst housing affordability in the world, behind Hong Kong.

All 39 Australian housing markets surveyed were �seriously� or �severely� unaffordable, defined as having average house prices of more than four times the average income.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:57

Nibbles!: Jun 26, 2008; TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please

Murodese posted:

He's a rich dude with a good PR company. Pretty much hated within the construction industry because he keeps refusing to pay subcontractors until they literally go bankrupt.

Was it Twiggy who went something like 5 years without paying tax too?

# ? Jul 31, 2014 03:57

Mad Katter: Aug 23, 2010; STOP THE BATS

Jumpingmanjim posted:

Coming soon to a property bubble near you:

What could possibly go wrong?

# ? Jul 31, 2014 04:00

Anidav: Feb 25, 2010; ahhh fuck its the rats again

Facebook likes the way Twiggy thinks.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 04:02

Nibbles!: Jun 26, 2008; TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please

Forced into demeaning work for poo poo money with less chance for employment costing you more of your below the poverty line welfare just to get to and from; why would people want to drink?

# ? Jul 31, 2014 04:05

Bifauxnen: Aug 12, 2010; Curses! Foiled again!

Anidav posted:

Facebook likes the way Twiggy thinks.

Someone tell the alcohol industry to sue everybody for harming their profits.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 04:06

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 22:28

I would blow Dane Cook: Dec 26, 2008

Can we quarantine Twiggy's income so he lays off whatever he's been smoking.

# ? Jul 31, 2014 04:07

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