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Deadpool posted:Major points from the call The numbers are bad, but the last few things here make me feel like they're going the "stay the course, make it better, don't cut poo poo" route at least.
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Daniel Bryan posted:Daniel Bryan gets WWE 667K subscribers. Then they lose 128K of them once he leaves. Coincidence??????????????? John Cena and Rock PPV gets 1.7 million and Bryan Mania loses 670K and doesn't make Network numbers. Bryan and Indies = WWE Death. Kevin Dunn inherits WWE. All models and bodybuilders from now on and WWE officially becomes Talent Seach...outsourcing to American Idol.
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Bettik posted:What does "on an over-the-top basis" mean? Is that marketing speak for something? Its a reference to cable/satellite boxes being called Set-top boxes back in the day.
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coconono posted:Its a reference to cable/satellite boxes being called Set-top boxes back in the day. See that's what I figured when I read it, but I took it to mean you'd need one to get onto this thing. Apparently it means precisely the opposite.
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Bettik posted:See that's what I figured when I read it, but I took it to mean you'd need one to get onto this thing. Apparently it means precisely the opposite. Its wonky advertising created by people who absolutely no idea what they're dealing with.
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Evil Canadian posted:As a Canadian I am really, really disappointed about this Rogers thing, why can't we just get the same product as everyone else? As time goes by, I'm more and more convinced Vince hates Canada
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TwoDogs1Cup posted:There's no reason for me to subscribe to the Network after Summerslam as the PPV's will be most likely poo poo The most likely scenario right now is that nitros start going up when they hit the September Raw episodes from 1995, which, at this pace, will be next month.
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TwoDogs1Cup posted:There's no reason for me to subscribe to the Network after Summerslam as the PPV's will be most likely poo poo NOC at least will probably be good because they're anticipating this mentality. I just hope they don't Tuesday in Texas Summerslam for it, because that card is looking so great right now. Best since Mania. e: honestly, maybe better than Mania. I was only really invested in the two Bryan matches and Bray/Cena for that. Really loving invested, though! Pinstripe Hourglass fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jul 31, 2014 |
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Interesting note from Big Davequote:The cutbacks are so significant that they now feel they can break even on 500,000 subscribers in 2015 as opposed to 1.4 million subscribers and at 1.5 million subscribers they will have OIBDA of $100 million to $120 million, which is more than they had pre-network.
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Deadpool posted:Interesting note from Big Dave Okay, that's very significant news that changes the whole conversation. I knew I should have just waited for Dave's analysis before trying to parse all this news.
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:NOC at least will probably be good because they're anticipating this mentality. I just hope they don't Tuesday in Texas Summerslam for it, because that card is looking so great right now. Best since Mania. They already pulled a Tuesday In Texas with Battlegrounds, if they pull it with Summerslam for freaking Night of Champions I'll laugh heartily.
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triplexpac posted:As time goes by, I'm more and more convinced Vince hates Canada Rogers and Bell are in an all-out loving war to buy up exclusive contracts to all live sports they possibly can in Canada, because it's one of the few thing that keeps people subscribed to Cable. Bell has the CFL on TSN, Rogers has the NHL and Blue Jays on its networks. Bell is planning on expanding TSN from one channel to five channels this fall. There's no way Rogers didn't throw a ton of cash at WWE for that deal. To explain this to those in the US, all the major sports channels in Canada are owned by two of the biggest Cable companies, Bell and Rogers. Bell pays to have Rogers' sports channels in their lineup and vice versa. What they're both trying to do is get exclusive content on their sports channels so they can put the cock to each other during negotiations over carriage fees and sports fans in Canada are the ones who get the short end of the stick. Basically, WWE Network just became another channel that Rogers is going to sell to Bell along with its Sportsnet channels. Just imagine if Comcast owned ESPN and Dish network owned Fox Sports One and Two, and they were constantly trying to one up each other in terms of content. They still sell the channels to each other, because you don't want to lose a huge chunk of your potential audience and thus ad revenue, so they could charge each other huge carriage fees. It's way more complicated than that, but that's the cliffs notes version of why Rogers wanted WWE Network so bad. Zack_Gochuck fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jul 31, 2014 |
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Bettik posted:What does "on an over-the-top basis" mean? Is that marketing speak for something? I was hoping that it meant people in the international market had to win an over-the-top battle royale to earn a Network subscription
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This is wonderful. I posted it earlier in the thread but of course it got lost due to Network chat. People really need to see it.
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Deadpool posted:Interesting note from Big Dave Good lord, how many people are they firing?
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Swagger Dagger posted:Good lord, how many people are they firing? Please fire Kevin Dunn, please fire Kevin Dunn, please fire Kevin Dunn...
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I was surprised to see such an insanely paint-by-numbers PPV build as Battleground at a time when the announcers were straight up begging people to subscribe to the Network and the company was waiting on the big subscriber number. Still, there hasn't been any panic with the stock price today so maybe it's all okay? The international market's a big deal, I can't imagine that many people are actually using VPN.
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TheJoker138 posted:Please fire Kevin Dunn, please fire Kevin Dunn, please fire Kevin Dunn... Turns out Kevin Dunn's salary was 60% of annual revenue, he bought WWE and fired Trips.
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Swagger Dagger posted:Good lord, how many people are they firing? Put it this way: that one poster from earlier in the thread was eerily prescient when they said that all shows would be just Cena vs. Reigns going forward. 
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xNarUtoRKOrton420x posted:Ryback bought Hell In A Cell and Payback numbers up, push him to the moon. Big guy, big buy.
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Deadpool posted:Interesting note from Big Dave "We'll make this Network thing work or by god burn the company to the ground trying!"
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xNarUtoRKOrton420x posted:Ryback bought Hell In A Cell and Payback numbers up, push him to the moon. This but unironically.
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Codependent Poster posted:Big guy, big buy.
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Holy christ what do they have to cut to make 500K the break-even point?? Does all of NXT get flushed? IS BAYLEY SAFE??
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Chokes McGee posted:This but unironically. I love Ryback and I'm glad his buyrates reflect his greatness
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Jesus christ they must be cutting poo poo down to the bone if the new projection is 500,000. RIP Zeb Colter.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Holy christ what do they have to cut to make 500K the break-even point?? Does all of NXT get flushed? IS BAYLEY SAFE?? Bayley's safe. :3
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Daniel Bryan posted:Daniel Bryan gets WWE 667K subscribers. Then they lose 128K of them once he leaves. Coincidence??????????????? The lack of Daniel Bryan is seriously making me consider not re-upping so......
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flashy_mcflash posted:Holy christ what do they have to cut to make 500K the break-even point?? Does all of NXT get flushed? IS BAYLEY SAFE?? Yes, but wacky waving inflatable tube man #2 got cut though, sorry
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Isn't it entirely possible that among the cuts included some .com writers and poo poo? I swear there's like ten of them. And yes I pray to god they shitcanned Dunn and he's worth like 400K off the breakeven point (neither of these things are true but a guy can fantasize). In all seriousness though I feel terrible for the lost jobs and that's terrible. I'm not even happy about the change of the Network's prospects given how many people are probably out of jobs now. 
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flashy_mcflash posted:Holy christ what do they have to cut to make 500K the break-even point?? Does all of NXT get flushed? IS BAYLEY SAFE?? It helps that they don't have to pay 3MB's 250k per appearance fee
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Chokes McGee posted:This but unironically. Why would I ever be ironic about THE BIG GUY!? Out of interest how much was Punk making before his contract ran out? Blasmeister posted:Yes, but wacky waving inflatable tube man #2 got cut though, sorry Good, no one liked Mojo Rawley.
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Guys, it's the break even for 2015 which was lower to begin with because of the lack of startup costs.
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oldpainless posted:Between his age/lifestyle, the complete and utter failure of the Network and its unquestionable cancellation and losing 340 million dollars in cash recently, I am sincerely concerned for Vince McMahon. stocks arent cash
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xNarUtoRKOrton420x posted:Out of interest how much was Punk making before his contract ran out? Punk sacrificed his career to ensure that wrestling would survive
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