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Hollismason posted:I would say that is completely untrue since you know Guardians of the Galaxy came out. I wasn't saying it was the only good Marvel movie - if anything, I think Cap 2 is even better - but that it had a certain loose, semi-improvisational, lived-in feel that many of the others have tried for but none have captured. I also haven't seen Guardians of the Galaxy yet.
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I don't enjoy the Marvel movies much at all but I watched Winter Soldier last night and was surprised by how much I enjoyed it.Uncle Boogeyman posted:I wasn't saying it was the only good Marvel movie - if anything, I think Cap 2 is even better - but that it had a certain loose, semi-improvisational, lived-in feel that many of the others have tried for but none have captured. This is a great summary of why.
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Box Office Mojo has GotG at $91mil for its 3 day total. edit: I still don't understand box office numbers. So that $91mil includes an estimated 20% drop for Sunday edit2: I accidentally removed my criticism of WB: "Meanwhile, over at Warner Brothers..." Tuxedo Jack fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Aug 3, 2014 |
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Aug 3, 2014 17:05
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Box Office Mojo has GotG at $91mil for its 3 day total. It will surpass Iron Man and Cap 2 today to be at least the 4th highest weekend for a Marvel film. With a strong Sunday, it could easily slip into the top 15 of all time for an opening weekend. Posts like this are why people think any criticism of Marvel films are "Marvel v DC" nonsense.
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Box Office Mojo has GotG at $91mil for its 3 day total. It will surpass Iron Man and Cap 2 today to be at least the 4th highest weekend for a Marvel film. With a strong Sunday, it could easily slip into the top 15 of all time for an opening weekend. It's really unfair to compare a small upstart company like Warner Brothers to Marvel studies. Especially since they only have the rights to a few obscure comic proprieties.
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computer parts posted:Posts like this are why people think any criticism of Marvel films are "Marvel v DC" nonsense. I think it's a fair point, Marvel made a relatively unknown property a huge hit, whereas DC has failed with some of their more well known faces, (GL), and is afraid to give a standalone film to some of their other characters at all. It's a fair point to be made, in this case, I think.
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DNS posted:Guardians is all but guaranteed to do well at this point, IMO. Audiences are responding to the trailer and they're going to be thirsty for More Marvel by the end of the summer. The main question is how well it does - it could be anywhere from a modest, well liked success with room for growth (a Batman Begins) to a runaway hit like The Winter Soldier. 
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Tuxedo Jack posted:I think it's a fair point, Marvel made a relatively unknown property a huge hit, whereas DC has failed with some of their more well known faces, (GL), and is afraid to give a standalone film to some of their other characters at all. It's a fair point to be made, in this case, I think. Marvel films crush the box office like this. DC films...
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Rhyno posted:Marvel films crush the box office like this. DC's had basically one flop, right?
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Aug 3, 2014 17:36
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morestuff posted:DC's had basically one flop, right? DC's had what, six films in the last decade? How many Marvel properties have been on screen this year, three?
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Aug 3, 2014 17:38
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Rhyno posted:DC's had what, six films in the last decade? How many Marvel properties have been on screen this year, three? That wasn't really the point you were making, though. All these movies are killing the box office, with one or two exceptions.
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Marvel are the Beatles, DC is a hamburger.
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To be fair to WB, Batman is the only one of DC's well-known characters that has an interesting hook. Marvel's style of more human characters makes it a much better fit for goofy, crowd-pleasing blockbusters. Man of Steel being up there with Hulk in quality is impressive given how much lousier a character Superman is to start with.
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JT Smiley posted:It's really unfair to compare a small upstart company like Warner Brothers to Marvel studies. Especially since they only have the rights to a few obscure comic proprieties. You've pointed out a major issue. Marvel is a studio set up to make superhero movies. Warner Brothers is a huge studio and really doesn't need DC.
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morestuff posted:That wasn't really the point you were making, though. All these movies are killing the box office, with one or two exceptions. When you have six films in 10 years a single flop is a big deal. Especially when compared to the what, Twenty+ Marvel films across the various studios. Maybe DC should farm out some of their properties to studios who actually want to make decent films.
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Rhyno posted:Maybe DC should farm out some of their properties to studios who actually want to make decent films. This doesn't make a lot of sense in a world in which Disney/Marvel made Iron Man 2, Sony made The Amazing Spider-Man, and WB/DC made The Dark Knight.
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It also wouldn't make sense because then how would you get them all back for your huge team-up movie?
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Sir Kodiak posted:This doesn't make a lot of sense in a world in which Disney/Marvel made Iron Man 2, Sony made The Amazing Spider-Man, and WB/DC made The Dark Knight. DC's library is every bit as vast as Marvel's and they are dragging their feet. I'd love to see what would happen if they tossed some of their horror characters to the guys making the PA films. Or pull Sgt Rock out and let somebody take a crack at a period piece film. With Marvel we've seen some pretty great stuff come along outside of Marvel's direct control.
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DC seems to be more interested in TV for their smaller characters (anyone not named Superman or Batman). Which leads me to what I've been saying forever. Doctor Who is the most popular scifi show out there right now. DC needs to get off their asses and make a Booster Gold TV show already.
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Rhyno posted:With Marvel we've seen some pretty great stuff come along outside of Marvel's direct control. Sure, we've seen better stuff come along outside of Marvel's direct control. I was responding to the nonsensical "actually want to make decent films" bit. That said, are there any DC characters that aren't likely to show up in the new DC film universe that are also prominent enough that there'd be a point in licensing them?
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 In this Car Avengers Shot of the Day, the heroic Acura Rox stays back to guard the perimeter while Cap and the assassins race for Stark Tower.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Sure, we've seen better stuff come along outside of Marvel's direct control. I was responding to the nonsensical "actually want to make decent films" bit. That said, are there any DC characters that aren't likely to show up in the new DC film universe that are also prominent enough that there'd be a point in licensing them? Swamp Thing, the Spectre and Animal Man would make amazing horror films and I doubt any will ever show up in the new DCCU. I'd actually forgotten about Jonah Hex (so seven films I guess) but that just shows how capable they are of mishandling their own properties. I would love to see a Sgt Rock and Easy Company film complete with cameos by Enemy Ace, the Haunted Tank and GI Robot.
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Detective No. 27 posted:DC seems to be more interested in TV for their smaller characters (anyone not named Superman or Batman). Which leads me to what I've been saying forever. Doctor Who is the most popular scifi show out there right now. DC needs to get off their asses and make a Booster Gold TV show already. There was one being considered for the Sci Fi (is it SyFy now?) Channel. Don't know what happened to that.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:In this Car Avengers Shot of the Day, the heroic Acura Rox stays back to guard the perimeter while Cap and the assassins race for Stark Tower. To be fair, with the Acura RDX's patented All-Wheel Drive with Intelligent Control and AcuraLink Navigation Functionality, Jarvis may well have taken control of that vehicle. Rhyno posted:Swamp Thing, the Spectre and Animal Man would make amazing horror films and I doubt any will ever show up in the new DCCU. I'm not familiar with the latter two, but I'd forgotten about Swamp Thing. They might want to keep him around for the Constantine TV show, though.
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Detective No. 27 posted:DC seems to be more interested in TV for their smaller characters (anyone not named Superman or Batman). Which leads me to what I've been saying forever. Doctor Who is the most popular scifi show out there right now. DC needs to get off their asses and make a Booster Gold TV show already. This is a good point - Marvel's TV output has been pretty bad, and DC seems to think that the TV style is much more natural for a comic book character. SuperMechagodzilla posted:
To be fair this could just be paid advertising.
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Rhyno posted:Swamp Thing, the Spectre and Animal Man would make amazing horror films and I doubt any will ever show up in the new DCCU. Guillermo del Toro has dibs on Swamp Thing if he ever gets around to making his Dark Universe movie. Spectre is showing up in Constantine. Jonah Hex was such a baffling dissappointment. All they had to do was make a gritty Western and they couldn't even manage that. Knight Boat fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Aug 3, 2014 |
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computer parts posted:This is a good point - Marvel's TV output has been pretty bad, and DC seems to think that the TV style is much more natural for a comic book character. This is teeball-level setting up the joke.
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Knight Boat posted:Guillermo del Toro has dibs on Swamp Thing if he ever gets around to making his Dark Universe movie. Spectre is showing up in Constantine. My favorite part of Jonah Hex was that the plot revolved around dragon balls.
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Knight Boat posted:Guillermo del Toro has dibs on Swamp Thing if he ever gets around to making his Dark Universe movie. Spectre is showing up in Constantine. Didn't DC say the JLD movie was not happening and never really was? And DC just confirmed a week or so ago that the film and tv universes will not crossover and we'll no doubt have a tv and film Flash running around at the same time unless the show is a turd.
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Rhyno posted:Didn't DC say the JLD movie was not happening and never really was? And DC just confirmed a week or so ago that the film and tv universes will not crossover and we'll no doubt have a tv and film Flash running around at the same time unless the show is a turd. Last week del Toro said he is still working on it and was told not to worry about the TV shows since they don't crossover. He is still "working" on a lot of things so who knows what will happen there.
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Knight Boat posted:Last week del Toro said he is still working on it and was told not to worry about the TV shows since they don't crossover. He is still "working" on a lot of things so who knows what will happen there. Yeah DT's said a lot of things though. Like Hellboy 3 and Pacific Rim 2 are totally happening and junk.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:
There is something going on in this shot actually - the very prominent MetLife building logo is gone and in its place, high above it is Stark Tower. The placement isn't accidental (this is where the Marvel HQ office is in real life, roughly), nothing should lead your eye away from Stark Tower. Well other than the Acura logo.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:There is something going on in this shot actually - the very prominent MetLife building logo is gone and in its place, high above it is Stark Tower. The placement isn't accidental (this is where the Marvel HQ office is in real life, roughly), nothing should lead your eye away from Stark Tower. Well other than the Acura logo. In the MCU Stark probably bought Honda Motor Corps and renamed the Acura brand Avengers Motor Cars so the placement of that A gets a pass. Or it's just a bad shot.
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computer parts posted:To be fair this could just be paid advertising. It undoubtedly is, but that's no excuse. Going back to Man Of Steel, SEARS appears in the background most prominently when Superman's getting the tar beat out of him - especially prominent in a close-up of the evil Faora. At this point, it functions as a pun: to scorch and burn. (Hell, IHOP works as a pun as well. Dorky Pete isn't going to leap any tall buildings, yet he inspires Kal's bumbling Clark Kent persona). HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:There is something going on in this shot actually - the very prominent MetLife building logo is gone and in its place, high above it is Stark Tower. The placement isn't accidental (this is where the Marvel HQ office is in real life, roughly), nothing should lead your eye away from Stark Tower. Well other than the Acura logo. I designated that a Car Avengers Shot of the Day because it's actually a pretty good shot of a car, with some screaming people in the background. It'd fit right in as a gag shot in Transformers 3. It's arguably the best shot in the film!
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:It undoubtedly is, but that's no excuse. Acura was already the official vehicle of the MCU so it's not shocking to see them prominently in a shot. SEARS fronted a ton of cash to be in MoS and there was even a Superman comic available only at your local SEARS better run out and get it kids!
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Rhyno posted:SEARS fronted a ton of cash to be in MoS and there was even a Superman comic available only at your local SEARS better run out and get it kids! It's even better, it's a traced All Star Superman panel that relocates the action from flying in the sun's orbit to flying over Sears. Sears and IHOP are like a sick joke, Sears is the most pathetic of commercial institutions, a brand that doesn't know it's dead, and IHOP is a cheesy faux diner that demarcates cookie-cutter exurbia. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Aug 3, 2014 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It's even better, it's a traced All Star Superman panel that relocates the action from flying in the sun's orbit to flying over Sears. Oh I know. I own several copies. Don't you loving judge me.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Are they not in the car? Haha, of course not! The car is set dressing. The heroes run past and around it on their way to the tower.
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