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I'm coming around on the idea of Hal being scum. These 2 posts seem contradictoryHal Incandenza posted:Quidnose is my next choice for scum. His only act of note is a burst of posting around the foo turbo and I feel like he threw out a lot of early effort to build town cred them he's been happy to slip under the radar. I probably owe him another read though before pushing this more. Hal Incandenza posted:Quid's level of activity is not really indicative of alignment. He posts plenty as scum if he has the time to. The best way to tell his alignment is either to press him and see how he reacts, or sometimes you can tell from his tone. He can be very aggressive and pushy as scum. And he has never mentioned GZ once. Hal, if you are the last scum you should be ashamed of killing Merk N1. Kaschei, you should be ashamed of blatant trolling (but I know you aren't)
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And that right there is practically confirming me as town. I'd also have at least lightly bussed zebu
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Hal Incandenza posted:And that right there is practically confirming me as town. What do you think about everyone else? Who do you think we should be voting?
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fiery_valkyrie posted:I'm coming around on the idea of Hal being scum. These 2 posts seem contradictory Ceci n'est pas un troll.
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Aug 6, 2014 00:04
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Sorry I only speak Aussie, mate.
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Hal Incandenza posted:And that right there is practically confirming me as town. My assumption is that you just weren't around and GZ chose the kill himself. Merk called him scum right before day ended. GZ is new and panicked and killed merk.
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Aug 6, 2014 00:24
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Kaschei, Hal, are either of you going to bother posting any opinions?
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Kaschei, Hal, are either of you going to bother posting any opinions? At this point it feels like we have two scum left and it is both of them.
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Kaschei, Hal, are either of you going to bother posting any opinions? kaschei is the scum. ##vote kaschei
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King Burgundy posted:What do you think about everyone else? Who do you think we should be voting? If you are scum, congrats, you've done a good job! The flip of mafia roleblocker interests me. Would a roleblocker block the self-watch? If so, then asiina's role has no town function really. Still, I am begrudgingly coming around on asiina as town. FV feels like town to me. That leaves kaschei, who was another one who didn't want to vote foo (I gotta be right on one of those) and usually even the most flippant version of town kaschei would have made some sort of point by now. We've likely got two shots at this (hopefully but not surely) but I think kaschei is pretty much it by process of elimination and by his posting.
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Haha yeah, reread kaschei, it's him. Sorry for not paying attention to this game sooner, we should have gotten him right away.
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Hal Incandenza posted:Haha yeah, reread kaschei, it's him. What's the gotcha for him that you see? What was obvious so early?
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fiery_valkyrie posted:What's the gotcha for him that you see? What was obvious so early? Basically he never left jokephase and he's been happy to sit back and let town kill themselves. By D2 town kaschei would have opinions
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Hal Incandenza posted:The flip of mafia roleblocker interests me. Would a roleblocker block the self-watch? If so, then asiina's role has no town function really. Still, I am begrudgingly coming around on asiina as town. I asked and roleblock would have won. So I guess I would have failed to watch myself? I imagine it as someone coming up behind you and holding their hands over your eyes.
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Kaschei, got anything to say (in English, that is relevant to the game)?
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I'd like to vote Kasch. Here's my thinking. I *DO* think he is scum. I'm still thinking there is probably only one scum left. Ideally it will end the game. But, if it doesn't? If he was town? I mean, it would suck, but gently caress it, he isn't helping us. If one of Hal/Kasch is the final scum, I'd rather not have someone so unhelpful to town in the game anyway. I'm sick of players who don't play.
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Asiina posted:I asked and roleblock would have won. So basically a worthless role? I am a little worried about Asiina voting me out of the gate. If there are two scum somehow then the second one is hovering around waiting for someone else to drop a vote on me and then they win. That seems way too strong of a scumteam though so I'm probably being paranoid. Votes out of the gate in late game always make me nervous though, since that's totally a scum tactic to sneak in an easy win.
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King Burgundy posted:I'd like to vote Kasch. Here's my thinking. I *DO* think he is scum. I'm still thinking there is probably only one scum left. Ideally it will end the game. Whoa dude, I've offered opinions all game. I haven't been able to post much, but I've certainly had stuff to say about foo, Asiina, quid and others. Get down off your high horse or you are off my Xbox friends list.
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Aug 6, 2014 01:55
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Kaschei if you are town get bent
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Aug 6, 2014 01:56
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Hal Incandenza posted:Kaschei if you are town get bent Qft.
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Aug 6, 2014 01:58
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If there WERE two scum it would have to be asiina and kaschei at this point.
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Hal Incandenza posted:Whoa dude, I've offered opinions all game. I haven't been able to post much, but I've certainly had stuff to say about foo, Asiina, quid and others. Get down off your high horse or you are off my Xbox friends list. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I like seeing your name there! I'm actually really happy you are back and participating now. I haven't had a chance to reread you lately though in light of the last vote+NK. I have a lurker bias. I can't help it. You were lurking for awhile and so it's held. If the others don't want to do Kasch with me, I'll have to re-examine you before I cast my vote. 
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Hal Incandenza posted:So basically a worthless role? I think maybe if I was visited by town roles then I could have known and wouldn't want to lynch them if we got to end game? I'm not sure if that was the intended use of this role, but it ended up not mattering cause a whole bunch of power roles are dead and nobody ever visited me. I think that with a survivor/vig that 3 scum would be very broken. There's only 11 people so a mislynch, a NK, and town getting vigged could have given it to the scum and 3P on D2. Poque isn't a crazy person, so there must only be 2 scum. Personally I think it's you and I decided that I'm going to vote you until you die because it's totally you Hal.
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King B don't be taken in by Hal. He's a nice guy even when he is the scum and he is totally the scum.
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I won't be, I'll look into him properly again if I need to. But he's actually here and talking and that is actually helpful in the long run, either way. What Kasch is doing is not.
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I tried to rally some enthusiasm but then Opo died, I didn't have any working theory, and all the lynches seemed nonsensical and still do. I'm not going to say I've been doing a stellar job because obviously I haven't. I have one opinion to give right now and that's that Asiina's role claim seems to be equally useless to mine so I believe it.
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kaschei posted:I tried to rally some enthusiasm but then Opo died, I didn't have any working theory, and all the lynches seemed nonsensical and still do. And your claim is?
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The flipped roles are literally the three most standard mafia roles. Self-watcher is rare, but can be useful in some setups. In this one it's got no value unless someone is hiding some amazing role.
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kaschei posted:I tried to rally some enthusiasm but then Opo died, I didn't have any working theory, and all the lynches seemed nonsensical and still do. We lynched scum and you think we've only had nonsensical lynches? You soft claimed, but it's too late for that. Full claim. You hinting that you might have a town role cuts no ice at this point in the game.
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Also kaschei, why are you no longer pushing or voting Hal? He's basically the only other person you've mentioned all game. Now that we're down to the last 5 you don't have a single opinion on any of the remaining players?
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kaschei posted:I have one opinion to give right now and that's that Asiina's role claim seems to be equally useless to mine so I believe it. There is no reason to hold back the full claim at this point. Especially if it is useless anyway.
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Aug 6, 2014 04:08
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Claim. Claim. Claim! Claim!
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Haha Poque what game have you saddled us with.
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Asiina posted:Haha Poque what game have you saddled us with. don't modshame
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Ok, now give us some opinions on the players still in the game.
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I'd rather stay over here getting bent
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Aug 6, 2014 06:27
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I hear that's a town thing to do
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##vote kaschei
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kaschei posted:I'd rather stay over here getting bent It can be arranged. ##vote kaschei
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