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Badera
Jan 30, 2012

Student Brian Boyko has lost faith in America.

effectual posted:

Won't be any non-catholic hospitals soon. We had a huge merger in WA state last year. All according to plan...

I'm confused. When do we get to kill Cardinals in the streets?

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
Not soon enough, gently caress the college of cardinals.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

“A thing is not necessarily true because a man dies for it.”
― Oscar Wilde

“The ink of the scholar is more holy than the blood of the martyr.”
― Anonymous, The Quran

"Keep in mind that many people have died for their beliefs; it's actually quite common. The real courage is in living and suffering for what you believe.”
― Christopher Paolini, Eragon

“The claim at the heart of this book has been carefully researched by several generations of scholars and is orthodox in academic circles, if not beyond. Christians under the Roman Empire were neither constantly persecuted nor martyred in huge numbers for their faith. They were prosecuted from time to time for alleged sedition, holding illegal meetings or refusing to sacrifice to the emperor. They were, like other convicts, sometimes tortured and executed in horrible ways. They seem to have been regarded by many Romans with distaste as a particularly silly superstition. But Christian stories of thousands of individual and mass martyrdoms over centuries have at best a limited basis in historical fact, and in many cases are sheer fiction.”
― Teresa Morgan

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Badera posted:

I'm confused. When do we get to kill Cardinals in the streets?

People hate the St Louis Cardinals as much as I do?!

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*

I thought this was real right up until I saw that the sweat vials would be used for something other than drug testing.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Joementum posted:

Michele Bachmann has changed tactics. She no longer wants to impeach Obama. Instead, we should impeach everyone else.

Checkmate, executive branch. :smug:

Finally, Obama's 11 dimensional chess end game becomes clear. Have his entire cabinet impeached so that he can ram through a collection of leftists so pure in ideology that no one on the left can find fault in them. Not even the 23rd splinter off the Punxsutawney People's Party, who found the previous group insufficiently pure when it comes to vegetable color discrimination.

Chard
Aug 24, 2010




Gyges posted:

Finally, Obama's 11 dimensional chess end game becomes clear. Have his entire cabinet impeached so that he can ram through a collection of leftists so pure in ideology that no one on the left can find fault in them. Not even the 23rd splinter off the Punxsutawney People's Party, who found the previous group insufficiently pure when it comes to vegetable color discrimination.

The idea that Obama could ram anything through our current government is to me the funniest part of this post

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Evil Fluffy posted:

I wish. If there was a single factory where all this took place the F-35 would've been binned long ago. However contractors are smart enough now to ensure production of giant meal tickets are spread over as many states as possible, ensuring that there's ample amounts of politicians who'd be put at risk if they voted to axe that lovely program.

Instead I propose an ad campaign to rechristen the F-35 as the "Groverplane". Even for those who don't get the SA in-joke will have a hard time taking a (supposed) killing machine (if it ever manages to kill someone who's not pilot or crew) seriously if it's being flown by a lovable muppet from a children's show.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Alkydere posted:

Instead I propose an ad campaign to rechristen the F-35 as the "Groverplane". Even for those who don't get the SA in-joke will have a hard time taking a (supposed) killing machine (if it ever manages to kill someone who's not pilot or crew) seriously if it's being flown by a lovable muppet from a children's show.

Counterpoint: the Enola Gay has Gay right in the name and Japan still took it pretty seriously :colbert:

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Chard posted:

The idea that Obama could ram anything through our current government is to me the funniest part of this post

He could if he had an F-35 Grover Strike Fighter.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Evil Fluffy posted:

I wish. If there was a single factory where all this took place the F-35 would've been binned long ago. However contractors are smart enough now to ensure production of giant meal tickets are spread over as many states as possible, ensuring that there's ample amounts of politicians who'd be put at risk if they voted to axe that lovely program.

Defense contractors aren't that clever. It's probably the same deal with the Space Shuttle: the F-35 needs to have parts sourced from every state because it'd be unfair otherwise.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

My Imaginary GF posted:

Michelle Bachman wants Congress to conduct a witchhunt. Michelle Bachman is friends with Christine "I am not a witch" O'Donnell. Which witch will you want watching Congress' witchhunting?
I hate/love you.

DemeaninDemon posted:

People hate the St Louis Cardinals as much as I do?!
I'm a Cubs fan. The only thing rivaling my hatred of the Cards is the hatred of myself for still being a Cubs fan.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Phone posted:

Defense contractors aren't that clever. It's probably the same deal with the Space Shuttle: the F-35 needs to have parts sourced from every state because it'd be unfair otherwise.

Military hardware manufacturing is the only conservative-approved form of welfare spending.

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre

Nintendo Kid posted:

Military hardware manufacturing is the only conservative-approved form of welfare spending.

No, there are lots more(Business subsides, tax breaks, etc.). It's basically only when poor people get involved does it become a problem. Or more specifically, someone who is not them.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench
There's also farm subsidies which just so happen to only work for giant corporate farms. Those farms are people too, you know.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

CannonFodder posted:

I hate/love you.
I'm a Cubs fan. The only thing rivaling my hatred of the Cards is the hatred of myself for still being a Cubs fan.

As a grandson of a Cubs fan and son of a Sox fan, I hate/love you too.

Speaking of, guess the 8 countries which the current Ebola Zaire-type strain has spread to:

http://www.liberianobserver.com

1. USA! USA! [Rice said 'the risk of Ebola spread in US is low,' not 'to US']
2. Sierra Leone
3. Liberia
4. Guinea
5. Nigeria
6. Spain
The above are confirmed, in policy speak, to have had Ebola spread to them. USA and Spain via media evacuation. Not presently in outbreak in them. The following are guesses:

7. Saudi Arabia (semi-confirmed)


8. China? Britain? I would not expect China to publicly admit that there was a case until after they over-react to stop an epidemic.

E:

CannonFodder posted:

There's also farm subsidies which just so happen to only work for giant corporate farms. Those farms are people too, you know.

They work for everyone. It just happens that, because they work for everyone, they have incentivized an increase in the trend of large agricultural estates. It affects downward the price of all food in the world, while also allowing US to maintain food export as a large element of its diplomatic missions for a very low cost.

My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Aug 7, 2014

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
USPOL September: Impeach Fried Chicken - The White Meat's Burden
When our efforts fail, we'll instead file a mod report

Unrelated, but were are now just one step away from literal Benjamin Gazi's

Badera
Jan 30, 2012

Student Brian Boyko has lost faith in America.

HootTheOwl posted:

USPOL September: Impeach Fried Chicken - The White Meat's Burden
When our efforts fail, we'll instead file a mod report

Unrelated, but were are now just one step away from literal Benjamin Gazi's

Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi BENGHAZI!

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Badera posted:

Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi BENGHAZI!



I can't tell if that's a parody of right wingers or not.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
While cycling home I saw people with signs reading "IMPEACH OBAMA" and "REMEMBER THE SACRIFICED 17" or something (I don't remember the exact language of the second one). Any idea what that could be a reference to? Is it Benghazi? Is that a stupid question?

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

Samurai Sanders posted:

While cycling home I saw people with signs reading "IMPEACH OBAMA" and "REMEMBER THE SACRIFICED 17" or something (I don't remember the exact language of the second one). Any idea what that could be a reference to? Is it Benghazi? Is that a stupid question?

The second one might be a reference to combat deaths in afghanistan after Bergdahl was captured (after allegedly deserting). The RW noise machine blames Bergdahl for their deaths because some might have been searching for him.
So because Obama traded 5 UberTerrorists (mostly bureaucrats) for Bergdahl's--a deserter who totally aided his captors!--release, their deaths are meaningless. Thanks Obama! :argh:

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
If Obama doesn't issue an executive order nationalizing American healthcare during this Ebola crisis, I just can't trust that he ever will.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

OAquinas posted:

The second one might be a reference to combat deaths in afghanistan after Bergdahl was captured (after allegedly deserting). The RW noise machine blames Bergdahl for their deaths because some might have been searching for him.
So because Obama traded 5 UberTerrorists (mostly bureaucrats) for Bergdahl's--a deserter who totally aided his captors!--release, their deaths are meaningless. Thanks Obama! :argh:
Huh. Well, maybe if I could remember the exact words, it would make more sense. Also they were doing that right next to supporters holding signs for some other politician (who is presumably not crazy), they can't appreciate that.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

My Imaginary GF posted:

If Obama doesn't issue an executive order nationalizing American healthcare during this Ebola crisis, I just can't trust that he ever will.

All white people please report to the nearest FEMA train station to be shipped to the Ebola camps in North Dakota.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

Samurai Sanders posted:

While cycling home I saw people with signs reading "IMPEACH OBAMA" and "REMEMBER THE SACRIFICED 17" or something (I don't remember the exact language of the second one). Any idea what that could be a reference to? Is it Benghazi? Is that a stupid question?

The Seal Team 6 crash

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Chinook_shootdown_in_Afghanistan


15 from the team that killed Bin laden, 2 from another unit. Right wing belief is Obama had them killed to cover up something to do with the raid (specifically that Obama had nothing to do with the raid because he is a secret Muslim and ally of Bin Laden, they had to force his hand, but they are always hazy on the details of why its an inside job)

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Fried Chicken posted:

The Seal Team 6 crash

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Chinook_shootdown_in_Afghanistan


15 from the team that killed Bin laden, 2 from another unit. Right wing belief is Obama had them killed to cover up something to do with the raid (specifically that Obama had nothing to do with the raid because he is a secret Muslim and ally of Bin Laden, they had to force his hand, but they are always hazy on the details of why its an inside job)

Members of one of the most elite squads in the military who face some of the most dangerous and deadly situations ever on a daily basis couldn't possibly have died from any other way than Obama personally killing them :colbert:

GROVER CURES HOUSE
Aug 26, 2007

Go on...

HootTheOwl posted:

USPOL September: Impeach Fried Chicken - The White Meat's Burden
When our efforts fail, we'll instead file a mod report

Unrelated, but were are now just one step away from literal Benjamin Gazi's

What do you mean, one step?

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Warmachine posted:

He could if he had an F-35 Grover Strike Fighter.
The Groveritech VF-1 Valkyrie sports insulated stairs for comfortable access to the cockpit when in vehicle form while featuring vinyl siding to shield the haunches and legs from thrust in mecha and guardian modes.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Joementum posted:

Michele Bachmann has changed tactics. She no longer wants to impeach Obama. Instead, we should impeach everyone else.

Checkmate, executive branch. :smug:

Dumb question for a dumb thing said by dumb person Michael Bachmann, but is this even possible?

Phone posted:

Defense contractors aren't that clever. It's probably the same deal with the Space Shuttle: the F-35 needs to have parts sourced from every state because it'd be unfair otherwise.

Contractors are that clever. If some bigass lucrative consolidation offer came along they'd probably take it, but when you are stealing hundreds of billions of dollars you want to have dozens of congressmen and senators on the hook for state pork rather than just a handful who can't filibuster in the senate or kill it in the house.

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Members of one of the most elite squads in the military who face some of the most dangerous and deadly situations ever on a daily basis couldn't possibly have died from any other way than Obama personally killing them :colbert:

And yet he will be brought down by geriatrics on rascals.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
Yeah I don't see why you'd doubt companies whose entire source of income is defense contracts would be very clever about securing as much government cash for themselves as possible.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro

Evil Fluffy posted:

And yet he will be brought down by geriatrics on rascals.
And you will know them by the provenance of their motorized scooters.

GROVER CURES HOUSE
Aug 26, 2007

Go on...

Pornographic Memory posted:

Yeah I don't see why you'd doubt companies whose entire source of income is defense contracts would be very clever about securing as much government cash for themselves as possible.

Because they are shortsighted to a fault? They'd burn the HQ to the ground if they thought it would add a zero to their yearly bonus.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
In the case of Lockheed though the government would just pay them whatever they wanted to rebuild said HQ because they're Too Big To Fail since all of our fighter aircraft manufacturers have consolidated under Lockheed-Martin or Boeing.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Pornographic Memory posted:

In the case of Lockheed though the government would just pay them whatever they wanted to rebuild said HQ because they're Too Big To Fail since all of our fighter aircraft manufacturers have consolidated under Lockheed-Martin or Boeing.

Just imagine if the government had let the Lockheed/Northrup Grumman merger happen.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Badera posted:

To give you an idea of what the Economist is like:



Hahaha, Christ. Put that image in the wikipedia entry for 'media bias.'


Ah yes, Chavez - a politician so beloved by his people they stopped a coup against him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZajyVas4Jg

Whereas for Thatcher:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRj2K0ulD8Q

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Aug 7, 2014

Uranium Phoenix
Jun 20, 2007

Boom.

effectual posted:

Won't be any non-catholic hospitals soon. We had a huge merger in WA state last year. All according to plan...

This is terrifyingly true. The catholic hospital in my area is making absurd money (some $50m/year, and sitting on $1000m in the bank) and is literally going around buying up all the hospitals it can in the area.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

Pfirti86 posted:

I wonder if there are any actual theistic Satantists in the way that evangelical Christians like to froth about. The only ones I ever hear of are the LaVeyan types, angry teenagers, those heavy metal people from Scandinavia, and one-off types who are trying to make a point about religious overreach.

There are groups like this one, though it's difficult to determine how many people are actually involved, especially since they love to make themselves sound scarier and more important than they actually are.

Avalanche
Feb 2, 2007
gently caress the VA and everyone that works there. All providers and staff are clearly at fault for not being able to hack it.

10:1 patient/nurse ratio? Nurses should be running half marathons daily in preparation.
Salaries often below the median for any given profession? gently caress you, you are on the govt. dole.
Outdated equipment? Well, if it worked in 1972 there's no reason why it shouldn't work now.

We don't need to increase the VA budget to hire more staff/modernize equipment to fix the "VA problem". What we should do is turn all VA hospital waiting rooms into a Korean War vet against Vietnam vet Thunderdome, and only let the most badass see a doc for treatment of service connected conditions.

Actually, lets just dump the entire VA altogether and build 2 more F35s.

Grundulum
Feb 28, 2006

Uranium Phoenix posted:

This is terrifyingly true. The catholic hospital in my area is making absurd money (some $50m/year, and sitting on $1000m in the bank) and is literally going around buying up all the hospitals it can in the area.

This seems like the kind of thing that should trigger a "must have at least one person on staff willing to dispense a drug/perform a procedure" law.

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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Evil Fluffy posted:

Dumb question for a dumb thing said by dumb person Michael Bachmann, but is this even possible?

It is possible in that it is constitutional.

Article II Section 4 posted:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

It is not really possible in that their removal from office would require conviction in the Senate and, obviously, that's not going to happen barring the existence of actual crimes. The only cabinet official to ever have been impeached was Secretary of War William W. Belknap in 1876, who then resigned, but was acquitted when it went to the Senate.

Still, you have to admire Bachmann in a weird way. She was on the crazy fringe for years talking about impeaching Obama, but now all sorts of Republicans are talking about impeachment, so what does Michele do? Doubles down on crazy.

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