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Zeitgueist
Aug 8, 2003

by Ralp

Shear Modulus posted:

While we're nationalizing banks can we also nationalize utilities, telecoms, weapons-building and oil/natural gas deposits?

Only if they are losing money.

Profits go private, losses go public.

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Al Harrington
May 1, 2005

I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow in the eye

Zeitgueist posted:

I'd like for us to make BoA a nationalized Bank of America for real, but I'd also like a pony.

It's really a shame what a piece of poo poo Bank of America has become, because when A.P Giannini founded the Bank of Italy, San Francisco, CA it sounds like he was a pretty decent person. I make this connection because in my field of numismatics I come across paper money from this bank often (it's common) and it's interesting and sad how it ties into modern times.

Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

I'm helping!



Chard posted:

Totally had me going right up until the word sweat. :golfclap:

Mercury_Storm posted:

I thought this was real right up until I saw that the sweat vials would be used for something other than drug testing.

You should have figured it out the moment it talked about Congress passing a new law.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Nate RFB posted:

Was Montana generally always considered a lost cause? How bad is the Senate looking at this point with regards to polls and such for the other races?

Walsh has never led in any poll. It's been considered either a lost cause or a really long shot ever since Baucus announced he wasn't going to run again. There was a brief surge of hope when Walsh got appointed because, on paper, Walsh is a good Democratic candidate, but it never materialized. That said, nobody except partisans pays attention to these races before late-September / October anyway.

But in other states that should be tough for Democrats like Arkansas and Alaska, Begich and Pryor have been leading in the polling or been neck-and-neck with their prospective opponents.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
The Post has a cool slidey feature that lets you compared the rejected Florida district map with their proposed new one.

Spoiler: they didn't really change much.

The Maroon Hawk
May 10, 2008

Joementum posted:

But in other states that should be tough for Democrats like Arkansas and Alaska, Begich and Pryor have been leading in the polling or been neck-and-neck with their prospective opponents.

I know it's August and too early to get comfortable yet, but the fact that Democrats are polling decently in Alaska and Arkansas gives me a little hope that November won't be complete poo poo :unsmith:

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

The Maroon Hawk posted:

I know it's August and too early to get comfortable yet, but the fact that Democrats are polling decently in Alaska and Arkansas gives me a little hope that November won't be complete poo poo :unsmith:

Arkansas has been in the margin of error for a long time now and there's still a contested GOP primary in Alaska (until August 19) after which life will get more difficult for Begich.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
And speaking of Senate primaries, Lamar! might get taken out tonight. There's been basically no polling in Tennessee but both his and Carr's campaigns leaked internal polls in July showing Lamar! up by ~10%.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
If he wins I'll tell people that I voted for him. :smug:

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

mdemone posted:

Probably referring to the rumblings about executive-order amnesty for immigrants. If that actually happens I think at least five right-wing blowhards will die from apoplexy.

We can only hope.

In ACA news, my Motehr is pissed right off because her Medicare premiums went up and she can't afford her prescription drugs she uses to treat her bipolar disorder. I directed her to healthcare.gov and did a little digging and it sounds like she should get a tax credit, rebate or something but a lot of that poo poo is just about to kick in.

The thing that kills me is she didn't even TRY the website or attempt to seek out coverage provided by the new law. She's just surrounded by people who say it's a poo poo law (it is), and "friends" who do her taxes but hasn't even bothered to see if she's eligible for anything covered under it.

What do I tell her? She asked ME to go poking around but I'm pretty sure Healthcare.gov wants HER SS#, DOB and all that poo poo so I doubt I'd get very far. She says she's in the "doughnut hole" but I thought that was closed now?

Help me, SA.

Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011

Get her SS#, her DOB, and any other information you need and go on Healthcare.gov.

Xibanya
Sep 17, 2012




Clever Betty
My aunt, who has some face freezing palsy, her son, who is autistic and has several comorbid disorders, and her husband, who has diagnosed bipolar disorder, are paying the fine rather than get themselves some sweet sweet Obamacare. They have a household annual income of $42k.

It's like some evil form of learned helplessness.

sleepingbuddha
Nov 4, 2010

It's supposed to look like a smashed cinnamon roll

BiggerBoat posted:

She says she's in the "doughnut hole" but I thought that was closed now?

gently caress the donut hole, it's a pain in the rear end for people that need meds. It's smaller than it used to be, but still screwing folks over.

1. See if she's eligible for Medicaid. Most states will let you apply online.
2. Look at options with the ACA.
3. If all else fails, look for a patient assistance program from the pharmaceutical company and just don't mention any insurance on the application.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010

Xibanya posted:

My aunt, who has some face freezing palsy, her son, who is autistic and has several comorbid disorders, and her husband, who has diagnosed bipolar disorder, are paying the fine rather than get themselves some sweet sweet Obamacare. They have a household annual income of $42k.

It's like some evil form of learned helplessness.

Thank them for keeping prices low and helping Obummer. Reverse Psychology!

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
ISIS and Kurds reporting airstrikes, pentagon denying it was them

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/world/middleeast/obama-weighs-military-strikes-to-aid-trapped-iraqis-officials-say.html?referrer=


Humanitarian aid is being deployed, line is the fighter jets are there to protect the cargo planes

Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Aug 8, 2014

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Thank you, gentlemen. I want to try and help her and know that (eventually at least) the ACA will help her but most of her meds are psychiatric, have to to do with mental health issues and I already know our country is poo poo at dealing with that in the first place so there's that.

Plus, the fact that she's half crazy and diagnosed bi-polar in the first place precludes her from taking any initiative to seek out options. She's like a child and an absolute master of self sabotage and helplessness. She's putting me in the unique position of defending this chickenshit law, surrounded by friends who are telling her that Obama and the ACA are loving her over. Sounds like she's starting to believe it.

Even funnier (haha) is that almost all of her friends are gay and they STILL hate Obama. One (her neighbor) even has AIDS and was denied visitation rights to his partner when he died. She donated money to the Obama campaign in 2008 (money she really didn't have) and sounds like she's on the verge becoming a Republican.

I suppose I should take this to the PPACA thread but I can't find it. Thanks again though, guys.

Zeitgueist
Aug 8, 2003

by Ralp

BiggerBoat posted:

I suppose I should take this to the PPACA thread but I can't find it. Thanks again though, guys.

It's still on the first page and a good resource:


http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3540057

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit

BiggerBoat posted:

Thank you, gentlemen. I want to try and help her and know that (eventually at least) the ACA will help her but most of her meds are psychiatric, have to to do with mental health issues and I already know our country is poo poo at dealing with that in the first place so there's that.


Depending on your area there may be charities (often church run) specifically for this situation. There are a number of organizations in my area that provide medication assistance, some which specialize specifically in psychiatric meds. Regrettably there is no centralized website to go to or particularly easy way to find out, the best bet would be to call your local Catholic Charity and go from there. Catholic Charity organizations in my experience generally know the lay of the land better than anyone else when it comes to avialable charity programs.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Lamar! leading in early results, but not by much, continuing this years trend of Republican incumbents running far, far closer in primaries than they normally would.

skaboomizzy
Nov 12, 2003

There is nothing I want to be. There is nothing I want to do.
I don't even have an image of what I want to be. I have nothing. All that exists is zero.
I'll never get tired of the Lamar! jokes. I try to think of similar campaign signs that would look sillier like Agnes! or Gladys!, but nothing ever quite beats trying to impart excitement to the name Lamar!.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Senator Cory Booker was transported back in time to the early 1980s today. He will be missed.



Meanwhile, Lamar! is going to win his primary by double digits and Obama is going to speak to the nation from his dining room later tonight to tell us whether he bombed some folks.

edit: Obama will speak at "9:30".

Joementum fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Aug 8, 2014

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Joementum posted:

Senator Cory Booker was transported back in time to the early 1980s today. He will be missed.



Meanwhile, Lamar! is going to win his primary by double digits and Obama is going to speak to the nation from his dining room later tonight to tell us whether he bombed some folks.

edit: Obama will speak at "9:30".

I just went to the White House streaming website and the placeholder image says "just concluded". ???

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Stultus Maximus posted:

I just went to the White House streaming website and the placeholder image says "just concluded". ???

Yeah, for whatever reason the White House website didn't carry it live, despite saying they would. Obama basically confirmed that he'd authorized bombing, especially if ISIS moves on Erbil, where American consular officials are present, despite an earlier Pentagon statement that no such authorization had been made. He also hinted rather strongly that everyone was looking forward to a "new Iraqi government", i.e. GTFO Maliki.

Anyway, Stacy "Don't Say Gay" Campfield is losing his State Senate primary in Tennessee.

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
President Barack Obama said Thursday night he has authorized “targeted airstrikes” in northern Iraq and the delivery of humanitarian assistance to religious minorities trapped there by Sunni extremists.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

Joementum posted:

Yeah, for whatever reason the White House website didn't carry it live, despite saying they would. Obama basically confirmed that he'd authorized bombing, especially if ISIS moves on Erbil, where American consular officials are present, despite an earlier Pentagon statement that no such authorization had been made.

The Pentagon statement was that we hadn't made the strikes that were being reported, not on authorization. So not necessarily in conflict.

the AUMF doesn't really stretch this far though, at least by plain reading. gently caress, I hope this stays limited to us dropping food and water, but it won't.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
Oh boy. We tried to get out but Iraq PULLED US BACK IN :smithicide:

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

StandardVC10 posted:

Oh boy. We tried to get out but Iraq PULLED US BACK IN :smithicide:

I wonder if any former President has actually left the office having enjoyed their job for the last four/eight years because Obama sure as poo poo isn't.

Ballz
Dec 16, 2003

it's mario time

1stGear posted:

I wonder if any former President has actually left the office having enjoyed their job for the last four/eight years because Obama sure as poo poo isn't.

No joke, I think Clinton has said it was the most fun eight years he's ever had. :stare:

LorneReams
Jun 27, 2003
I'm bizarre

Ballz posted:

No joke, I think Clinton has said it was the most fun eight years he's ever had. :stare:

Well it's like any job...you have to MAKE it fun.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Ballz posted:

No joke, I think Clinton has said it was the most fun eight years he's ever had. :stare:

Blow jobs and a balanced budget will do that.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
US Military dropped 5,300 gallons of drinking water and 8,000 MREs from 1 C-17 and 2 C-130s, with 2 F/A-18s flying escort.

Beats dropping bombs

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Fried Chicken posted:

US Military dropped 5,300 gallons of drinking water and 8,000 MREs from 1 C-17 and 2 C-130s, with 2 F/A-18s flying escort.

Beats dropping bombs

I suppose, although with all the poo poo happening around the world and int he US I am really starting to understand why people choose to become Neckbeard Shut ins.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Fried Chicken posted:

US Military dropped 5,300 gallons of drinking water and 8,000 MREs from 1 C-17 and 2 C-130s, with 2 F/A-18s flying escort.

Beats dropping bombs

I hope they used parachutes, otherwise maybe not.

borkencode
Nov 10, 2004

Fried Chicken posted:

US Military dropped 5,300 gallons of drinking water and 8,000 MREs from 1 C-17 and 2 C-130s, with 2 F/A-18s flying escort.

Beats dropping bombs

US Politics August - Bread over Baghdad

PDP-1
Oct 12, 2004

It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.


Get your tri-corner hats and misspelled/racist signs ready folks, because National Impeach Obama Week is coming up (August 23-31)!

Reasons for impeachment include (but not limited to) general lawlessness, Obamacare, Benghazi, supporting Al Quaeda, importing illegal aliens for political gain, psychological pathology, forgery of documents to prove eligibility for office, radical and subversive anti-Americanism, and being black constitutional ineligibility for the office that he holds.

(You are also encouraged to contact your congressmen and write letters to newspapers during this times [sic] to demand impeachment.)

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
Remember, it's a Democratic plot to suggest that Obama will be impeached. He may be an unconstitutional probably-foreign traitor to the country who's constantly breaking the law, but he can't be impeached because *REASONS.*

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

PDP-1 posted:

forgery of documents to prove eligibility for office

I hope this never dies.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

El Scotch posted:

I hope they used parachutes, otherwise maybe not.

At least the MREs would be easier to open that way.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Read that as HONKIES 2 IMPEACH

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Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

PDP-1 posted:



Get your tri-corner hats and misspelled/racist signs ready folks, because National Impeach Obama Week is coming up (August 23-31)!

Reasons for impeachment include (but not limited to) general lawlessness, Obamacare, Benghazi, supporting Al Quaeda, importing illegal aliens for political gain, psychological pathology, forgery of documents to prove eligibility for office, radical and subversive anti-Americanism, and being black constitutional ineligibility for the office that he holds.

(You are also encouraged to contact your congressmen and write letters to newspapers during this times [sic] to demand impeachment.)

I heard this impeachment talk was just something made up by the Democrats.

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