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SouthLAnd posted:I guess it's pretty much impossible to really understand the kind of depression that would lead to someone taking their own life unless you've faced it personally and came out alive. You start to feel guilty because you're not "supposed" to be depressed in your situation, and your brain goes "Don't you know other people have it so much worse than you? You have plenty of money and friends and everything and you're still all depressed. What a selfish rear end in a top hat. You should just gently caress off and die because you're a horrible person. You don't deserve any happiness anyway." Depression loving sucks. RIP Robin.
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Aug 12, 2014 09:24
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Soooo I went to IMDb to get a full picture of his entire career and check what I've seen and started logging in and gently caress this loving captcha the thing gave me just now: My favorite Robin Williams movies are probably Good Morning, Vietnam and Fisher King, so I guess I'll be watching those two soon.
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Aug 12, 2014 09:31
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OH NO MAN posted:As someone who has struggled with severe depression for years, I can say that one of the terrible things about depression is that it does not give a poo poo if there's technically nothing wrong with your life. Obviously I can't speak for Robin or anyone else, but from my experience depression can in fact get worse if your life seems really good from someone else's perspective and people tell you you "don't have any reason to be sad." (for the love of god, never say this to a depressed person) It may be inappropriate, but I find it hilarious that you have a Batman avatar.
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Aug 12, 2014 09:31
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Veib posted:Soooo I went to IMDb to get a full picture of his entire career and check what I've seen and started logging in and gently caress this loving captcha the thing gave me just now: Hes communicating with you from beyond the grave
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Aug 12, 2014 09:34
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Inspector Gesicht posted:It may be inappropriate, but I find it hilarious that you have a Batman avatar. I see what you mean, though, and got a chuckle out of it.  Didn't even think about that when I was posting.
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Aug 12, 2014 09:47
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Spent tonight rewatching some of his standup specials, and now I'm actually crying a little bit. What the gently caress. edit: Don't loving read the GBS thread about him, it's loving disgusting and disgraceful.
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Aug 12, 2014 09:56
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 Sometimes, you can't even take your own advice. Ensign_Ricky posted:Spent tonight rewatching some of his standup specials, and now I'm actually crying a little bit. What the gently caress.
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Aug 12, 2014 10:00
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Captain Invictus posted:GBS Neo is full of unfunny edgy or ironic stupid shitheads and FYAD-wannabes? I am stunned Yeah, yeah, but this is worse than usual for it.
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Aug 12, 2014 10:05
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Captain Invictus posted:
That's taken out of context. In the movie, his son didn't intentionally commit suicide. It was a weird accident. That scene is one of the best scenes he's ever done, by the way. And now it's actually heart breaking, instead of darkly hilarious.
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Aug 12, 2014 10:10
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I have to admit I wasn't really a huge fan of his as a comic, but I've loved pretty much every dramatic role I've seen him in. Fisher King rules, he was a cool guy.
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Aug 12, 2014 10:35
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Ensign_Ricky posted:Spent tonight rewatching some of his standup specials, and now I'm actually crying a little bit. What the gently caress. Seriously though I cried a little watching a few clips today, poor bastard
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Aug 12, 2014 11:48
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Spent my commute to work this morning just staring out in front of me after I read the news. If there ever was the cliche of the sad clown, Robin Williams now embodies it.
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Aug 12, 2014 12:13
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I loved Mork & Mindy even though the network kept loving around with it. I don't remember the context, but here's this: 
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Aug 12, 2014 12:52
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RIP. Depression is no joke.
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Aug 12, 2014 13:25
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Noirex posted:I never believed he was a happy man. Too much drugs, too much mania, he always had sad eyes beneath all that laughter. This really rings true. I was much more appreciative of Robin's adult films. What Dreams May Come, Dead Poets Society, Good Morning Vietnam, One Hour Photo, Good Will Hunting, Death to Smoochy, Insomnia, even Awakenings and The Birdcage. It was always easier to accept him in those roles than ones where he's playing someone endlessly happy, Patch Adams always felt weird to me. Out of the news coverage, ABC streaming his home, and celebrities tweeting, I feel the most appropriate message is the one linked earlier from The Academy.
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Aug 12, 2014 13:32
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Goddamn. I know it became pretty common to give him a lot of poo poo about his shtick and some of his more mawkish choices near the end, but you could never deny Robin Williams' ridiculous talent for both comedy and drama and sensational improvisational ability. If I had to pick one moment, just one, from his career that sums up what made him so amazing it would be this scene from Good Will Hunting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8mn3nLPSMY If you didn't already know, everything about Dr Maguire's late wife farting in her sleep was completely improvised by Williams. Matt Damon's reaction is genuine, and the reason the camera shakes is because the cameraman couldn't stop laughing. But then Williams takes a drat funny bit and expertly segues it into an incredibly poignant and touching observation that it's the little idiosyncracies that he misses the most, and starts talking about an intimate adult relationship in such a relatable, mature way that it blows my mind that he made it up on the spot. And that's what he was capable of, to me there's no other word: Magic. He improvised possibly the most touching moment of a quite incredible film, like that's something he could just do without really thinking about it. This is a huge, huge loss. I don't really know what else to say. There'll never be anyone else like Robin Williams. RIP quick edit: And yes, every single mention of 'O Captain My Captain' this morning absolutely broke my heart, another of my favourite movie moments (and one of my favourite scores). So, here's that too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lREv55MY5E
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Aug 12, 2014 13:51
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This is terrible. I pretty much grew up with Robin Williams as a constant presence in movies-- Aladdin, Jumanji, all the kid stuff-- and only later saw more of his work and realized what a great actual talent he had, and how he seemed like a genuinely good person. He was one of those people you'd expect to just be around forever, or to pass away in his sleep at age 102 or something and the only reaction would be "Oh, he left such a great legacy." Not like this. And add me to the list of depressed people for whom the idea that it was suicide makes it that much worse. I've had those thoughts before, and it's almost agonizing, knowing how fleeting and purely impulsive those thoughts can be-- help should have been right there, it probably was right there, but in that moment you can't see it through the fog. Everything feels so profoundly wrong and horrible that you're certain nothing can help, there's nothing you can do, you have no future. And a moment is all it takes, and that's what's so frustrating. If he'd only been able to get through that day, maybe he could've found that help and been alright. Maybe. Man, depression sucks. I just hope he found peace, and I hope his family is getting all the support they need.
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Aug 12, 2014 14:02
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I just heard the news this morning. Such an awful thing... He was pretty much my mom's favorite actor ever; I have to call her later. I'm looking at his IMDb page right now... Such an amazing body of work, 102 credits and that's just for his acting work. There's all the examples mentioned for his great films, but the one I have in my head, and the one I've remembered the best over the years, is The Fisher King. Wonderful actor and wonderful man, I hope he finds peace in whatever comes next. "I like New York in June, how about you?..."
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Aug 12, 2014 15:31
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyd6smXGBlM Williams was one of the first comedians who ever made me laugh, even before I could understand English or read subtitles, I saw his standup show and just him acting silly was hilarious. Always loved him in lighter movies (Good Morning Vietnam, Hook, etc.) but he was such a crazy good dramatic actor too, even if the movies around him didn't always work quite as well. The Night Listener, Final Cut, What Dreams May Come, The World According to Garp, The Fisher King, Good Will Hunting, One Hour Photo, Insomnia, World's Greatest Dad. Just loads of them. Super loving bummed out by this. Oh goddamnit
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Aug 12, 2014 15:52
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quote:Oh goddamnit Yup, right in the feels. Goodnight Robin.
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Aug 12, 2014 16:03
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcZhY_Zo-yg He seems like such a sweet, amazing father. I feel so bad for his family.
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Aug 12, 2014 16:39
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Aladdin was the first movie I saw in theaters. Goodbye Genie.
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Aug 12, 2014 16:49
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5FmFaK7pMU It's almost like no matter what he did, the man himself almost seemed to walk out of a fairy tale. And people forget that fairy tales can - nay, need to be - fuckin' scary at times. Going dark places you don't wanna go, speaking and babbling in ways that are hard for you to totally comprehend. I don't know any other actor who embodied both halves of the funny-dark dichotomy so perfectly. Even when he was in utter poo poo, he was also the best thing about it, and I think his fantastic magnetism has a lot to do with that. Guy came off like Peter Pan. But I guess we forget how lonely that must be. That's the type of role Williams played so well, though - the naive everyman versus the cynical world. And while sometimes it was in a hackneyed story with even somewhat horrendous ethical overtones - Mrs. Doubtfire, Patch Adams - it has an unbelievable effect on you being able to accept even the most fantastic concept. When I was a kid, the most vivid image of Robin Williams for me was Jack. And while I can look back now with a jaded sense of derision, I can't forget just how true to being a child Williams could be. The experience of this grown rear end man felt so real to me, and don't think it can't be denied that Williams' performance had a tremendous amount to do with it.
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Aug 12, 2014 17:31
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Really, the thing that always got me about Williams was his intensity. He reminded me of Nicolas Cage: he wholeheartedly owned and believed in every role he was handed, no matter how ridiculous or how deathly serious it was. Like Cage, people generally hired him for his manic energy, but when given the chance to spread his wings into drama, he really loving spread 'em.
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Aug 12, 2014 17:36
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It's stupid, but out of all the movies he's done the one thing that really sticks with me is trying to avoid road head because of The World According to Garp. 
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Aug 12, 2014 17:45
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I never knew about his depression. "Robin Williams dead from suicide" seems like a bunch of words that belong anywhere near each other.
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Aug 12, 2014 17:48
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When I think of a serious/dramatic Robin Williams role I always come back to the episode of Homicide:Life on the Street that he was in. He's just so completely far away from the usual energetic comedy roles he had been around the same time.
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Aug 12, 2014 17:50
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RIP. The thing about Robin Williams was that, while he made some poor choices in film roles, I think they were made on an emotional level, and that through it all, he had a sharpness, an intelligence that people don't always credit him with. Referencing Lord Buckley in his stand up, stuff like that. I mean, you can sense the thoughtfulness in many of his interviews. Here's one I just watched which really impressed me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjktB2k6TSI
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Aug 12, 2014 17:55
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meteloides posted:gently caress. gently caress. loving SCREAMING poo poo. As someone that's battled with depression and suicidal thoughts from time to time, yea this hits in the gut a little bit. You hit everything right on the head.
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Aug 12, 2014 18:03
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MrBling posted:When I think of a serious/dramatic Robin Williams role I always come back to the episode of Homicide:Life on the Street that he was in. He's just so completely far away from the usual energetic comedy roles he had been around the same time. I'm in Baltimore and on a local talk radio show this morning a random set-worker on Homicide called in and talked about his experience working with Robin Williams for that episode. He said Williams was a drat serious actor, classically trained and incredibly professional. It may just be because this is still so fresh but it seems like a disproportionate amount of his movies will now be tough to watch without feeling at least a little bit sad. Patch Adams, What Dreams May Come, Aladdin, Awakenings, even Jumanji. His characters all have aspects to them that are extra depressing in light of what's happened.
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Aug 12, 2014 18:08
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AKA Pseudonym posted:I never knew about his depression. "Robin Williams dead from suicide" seems like a bunch of words that belong anywhere near each other. This is exactly how I feel. I am not all that torn up over Robin Williams being dead, people die and it sucks, but it's just how he died is not something I could have imagined reading in a lifetime. Not to him anyway, he was always bigger than life. I had no idea about his depression. He was a huge part of my nostalgia growing up and I am going to go home and watch hook. 
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Aug 12, 2014 18:16
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JayJay posted:This is exactly how I feel. I am not all that torn up over Robin Williams being dead, people die and it sucks, but it's just how he died is not something I could have imagined reading in a lifetime. Not to him anyway, he was always bigger than life. I had no idea about his depression. He was a huge part of my nostalgia growing up and I am going to go home and watch hook. I did this last night. As flawed as a movie it is, still love it.
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Aug 12, 2014 18:31
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Robin's death made me, as a lifelong sufferer from Depression, think "It's never going to be easy." He was literally used by a therapist once as an example of how I could turn my struggles into art (and I like to think that I do) and seeing someone I admired succumb to those shared demons just broke me open yesterday. I'll second the recommendation that I think someone made in here to listen to the re-posted WTF interview. He and Marc's rapport is fantastic and it's really, beautifully revealing. I've personally made the plea that people who suffer from suicidal thoughts reach out for help in my little autobio webcomic (the last time I had a really dark night, got drunk, and had to call a hotline for help I made this) and I know I wouldn't have the balls to do that without people like Robin putting their pain on display and helping us understand and sometimes laugh at it. I'll say it here too, though: If you need help, don't be ashamed. Go and get it. You're not alone. And of course, I tell you that because I need to hear it sometimes, too.
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Aug 12, 2014 18:33
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It was decided at work that we would watch Robin Williams films in his honor and the first choice was loving Patch Adams. Really? At least it wasn't RV I guess.
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Aug 12, 2014 18:34
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It's a sad world we live in where one of it's most celebrated entertainers can take his own life from depression. Just looking at how people have responded to the news shows how much of an impact he had, and the real tragedy is that he couldn't see it himself. So I don't think he needed an angel Clarence to convince him life was worth living, I think a friend would've been enough. And whilst I don't quite understand people grieving over a man they never met, I do think it's drat shame he's gone. Though I guess one reason the news comes as such a shock is that some celebrities are treated more as cultural institutions than human beings. You don't expect them to die, because unconsciously you don't even categorise them as mortal. With a moment of thought you know they're just people, but the cult of celebrity has built them up so much that it's easy to forget there's a person underneath it all.
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Aug 12, 2014 18:52
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Rocketfish posted:I don't think I ever sympathized more with Robin until he did a quick cameo on the Harmontown podcast. I could hear it in his voice, this strange bubbling nervousness that comes out as strange voices, jarring jokes, and jabbering a mile a minute. I go through the same thing sometimes when I meet with strangers, and people either find you endearing or a lunatic. Regardless, it seems like no one respects you, least of all yourself. After you've destroyed what could have been a quiet conversation with your borderline hysteria, holy poo poo, there is no crappier feeling than feeling like a buffoon. You can't even articulate your suffering because your own manic brand of humor will take the over the second you feel uncomfortable, and all you say is random gobbeldy gook to distract people. Thanks for this post, it summarizes a lot of the clown/buffoon/spastic-manic-distraction-emoting "funny" people experience. Mork from Ork helped me believe that there were people that could love aliens/clowns/"funny" people.
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Aug 12, 2014 18:59
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It's rarely as simple as having a friend around when it comes to depression. It really, really fucks with your mind so much so that no matter what others say it can very easily beat you down hard enough to come to the conclusion that suicide is the only answer. The whole time you can be fully aware of what you contribute to the world around you and how many people care about you, and it can still get you.
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Aug 12, 2014 19:01
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 My commute takes me by the Mann Chinese theater. The entire block is nothing but news vans this morning.
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AKA Pseudonym posted:I never knew about his depression. "Robin Williams dead from suicide" seems like a bunch of words that belong anywhere near each other. JayJay posted:This is exactly how I feel. I am not all that torn up over Robin Williams being dead, people die and it sucks, but it's just how he died is not something I could have imagined reading in a lifetime. Not to him anyway, he was always bigger than life. I had no idea about his depression. He was a huge part of my nostalgia growing up and I am going to go home and watch hook. You know what the worst part is? When you go back and watch his stuff now, especially something like The Fisher King or Good Will Hunting, maybe even something darkly funny like Toys, you’re going to be able to see that expertly hidden but desperate sadness in his performance. Once you find out it’s there you notice it forever. Speaking of The Fisher King, the whole thing about him running away from the black knight is going to take on another layer of significance now.
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