Steam Thread: you're not a kid any more and you want what you had when you were a kid

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Orv: May 4, 2011

pentyne posted:

Anything from PCGamer is almost certainly bullshit.

Given the writing in the game so far, I am 100% willing to believe that is true.

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a7m2: Jul 9, 2012

I would recommend people stay away from Velvet Assassin even if it was free. A massive waste of bandwidth and hard drive space.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 03:00

Brannock: Feb 9, 2006; by exmarx; Fallen Rib

Eruonen posted:

I would recommend people stay away from Velvet Assassin even if it was free. A massive waste of bandwidth and hard drive space.

Care to expand a little on that?

# ? Aug 13, 2014 03:03

YOURFRIEND: Feb 3, 2009; You're an asshole, Mr. Grinch
You really are a cunt
You're as cuddly as a cockring
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It's actually a pretty okay little game. Worth a dollar.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 03:04

Tony Phillips: Feb 9, 2006

YOURFRIEND posted:

It's actually a pretty okay little game. Worth a dollar.

It's a bit dated strange little stealth-lite game where you stab the crap out of a billion nazis. Well worth a buck and a few hours of play time.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 03:31

RBA Starblade: Apr 28, 2008; Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

What's the "other games" section in the game library supposed to be for? All that's in there for me is Pinball Arcade.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 03:45

flatluigi: Apr 23, 2008; here come the planes

RBA Starblade posted:

What's the "other games" section in the game library supposed to be for? All that's in there for me is Pinball Arcade.

Uncategorized games.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 03:51

Samurai Sanders: Nov 4, 2003; Pillbug

Maybe I've asked this before, but what's with games that have both partial and full controller support? Is this some superposition thing? I just read a lovely article asking whether quantum computing was the future of PC games but I doubt that has happened yet.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 04:24

Yodzilla: Apr 29, 2005; Now who looks even dumber?

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pentyne posted:

Anything from PCGamer is almost certainly bullshit.

This person is fifteen years old.

Orv posted:

Risen 3: If you have an undying love for European jank RPGs, pick it up when it hits $10. Maybe don't otherwise.

How janky is it? This is six games into the Gothic/Risen series now?

# ? Aug 13, 2014 04:31

Kibayasu: Mar 28, 2010

Brannock posted:

Care to expand a little on that?

It's one of those stealth games where there's some very specific sequences you have to follow to stay hidden successfully and the only way to discover them is trial and error. The open combat isn't very great so its not even fun to learn the patterns you need to if you're so inclined.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 04:52

Orv: May 4, 2011

Yodzilla posted:

How janky is it? This is six games into the Gothic/Risen series now?

Orv posted:

So when I say European jank, I mean;

Poor but hilarious voice acting

Questionably designed but at least serviceable combat (It has killmoves from Skyrim and you can pull out a pistol to shoot a thing in the face any time you want)

Cliches from sun up until "Oh look it's an eclipse here come the undead" sundown

Decent quests, but barely an explanation of what you're supposed to do with them

Confusing and occasionally arbitrary systems

If you've played Risen 1, or the Gothic games, or if you can imagine STALKER as a third person RPG instead of an FPS, you're pretty much familiar with what's on the table. It's certainly more playable and looks nicer than any RPG Piranha has made before, but it's still super janky, super old school and really questionable.

I'm not one of the "Never ever buy things that aren't 90% off!" people, in fact I'm kind of the opposite when it comes to supporting devs, but really really don't buy this for $60 unless you somehow have a carnal need for what I just described. Even then, it was on sale for half-off before it even launched, just have some patience and look around.

Still that janky.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 04:54

TheIllestVillain: Dec 27, 2011; Sal, Wyoming's not a country

Is Risen 3 more like the original or the sequel? I loved the first game but really couldn't get into the second.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:04

Orv: May 4, 2011

TheIllestVillain posted:

Is Risen 3 more like the original or the sequel? I loved the first game but really couldn't get into the second.

It plays more like 2 but with the magic, exploration, factions and quests of 1.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:06

Wiggly Wayne DDS: Sep 11, 2010

Samurai Sanders posted:

Maybe I've asked this before, but what's with games that have both partial and full controller support? Is this some superposition thing? I just read a lovely article asking whether quantum computing was the future of PC games but I doubt that has happened yet.

The guidelines for full control support tend to mean you can launch the game without hitting a launcher and can use the controller without configuration. Partial is for cases where there is controller support but you have to enable it. It's a useful identifier for Big Picture Mode, but it's a bit patchy across games iirc.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:09

Stan Taylor: Oct 13, 2013; Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy

Yodzilla posted:

This person is fifteen years old.

Jesus christ, no kidding. "I actually clapped." It reads like a particularly bad tumblr post. Fuuuuck I hope that guy doesn't get paid for that poo poo.

Apparently I own both Sacred 2 and Risen 2. Which one should I play if I want to play an explore-y game and maybe mess around with a cool combat system and not have to deal with RPG bullshit? Are either of them worth it?

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:11

The Joe Man: Apr 7, 2007; Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984

Stan Taylor posted:

quote:
Sacred 2 and Risen 2.

...maybe mess around with a cool combat system and not have to deal with RPG bullshit? Are either of them worth it?

Uhhhhhhhhh pick something else.

EDIT: Why are you asking if you should play an RPG when you don't want to deal with an RPG?

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:15

Propaganda Hour: Aug 25, 2008; after editing wikipedia as a joke for 16 years, i ve convinced myself that homer simpson's japanese name translates to the "The beer goblin"

Stan Taylor posted:

Jesus christ, no kidding. "I actually clapped." It reads like a particularly bad tumblr post. Fuuuuck I hope that guy doesn't get paid for that poo poo.

Are you kidding? "To kick your rear end" is the dumbest, kick rear end and chew bubble gum line I've heard in a game in years. I'd clap too for the sheer stupid audacity.

Edit: It's as ridiculous as "Nah," from the end of System Shock 2.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:15

Orv: May 4, 2011

Here's the tone of Risen 3:

When your character is killed at the end of the tutorial, the game cuts to the scene of you being buried and "QUEST CANCELED: FIND THE LOST TREASURE" pops up on screen during the funeral. It knows full well what it's doing.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:18

Breadallelogram: Oct 9, 2012

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

The guidelines for full control support tend to mean you can launch the game without hitting a launcher and can use the controller without configuration. Partial is for cases where there is controller support but you have to enable it. It's a useful identifier for Big Picture Mode, but it's a bit patchy across games iirc.

Yeah, so how can a game have both full and partial support?

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:19

Orv: May 4, 2011

Breadallelogram posted:

Yeah, so how can a game have both full and partial support?

Manual configuration available for off-brand stuff, typically.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:19

Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

Samurai Sanders posted:

Maybe I've asked this before, but what's with games that have both partial and full controller support? Is this some superposition thing? I just read a lovely article asking whether quantum computing was the future of PC games but I doubt that has happened yet.

It actually somewhat is.

Full Controller Support means the game can be launched, configured, and played using only a controller.
Partial Controller Support means that some part of the game requires a keyboard or mouse.

Generally when a game has both it means that it has native support for an Xbox controller out of the box (Full) but other controllers require in-game configuration (therefore Partial).

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:25

Stan Taylor: Oct 13, 2013; Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy

Propaganda Hour posted:

Are you kidding? "To kick your rear end" is the dumbest, kick rear end and chew bubble gum line I've heard in a game in years. I'd clap too for the sheer stupid audacity.

Edit: It's as ridiculous as "Nah," from the end of System Shock 2.

I'm sure the line in the game is cheesy and rad, "I actually clapped" is some lovely writing though.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:26

PantsBandit: Oct 26, 2007; it is both a monkey and a boombox

In an attempt to make some small dent in my backlog, I've finally gotten around to finishing the Knife of Dunwall DLC for Dishonored. I liked it, I guess. I played the base game as non-lethal as possible but with KoD I pretty much just killed anyone in my way. After all, Corvo was just a bodyguard trying to do right by his queen whereas Daud is an assassin. Like, it's on his resume. Anyways it wasn't nearly as interesting when I could just poof any enemy into nothingness but warping around murdering goons is still pretty fun. The story didn't really interest me all that much and I wish they had added more in terms of mechanics but it was a pretty ok ride.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:32

Lord Lambeth: Dec 7, 2011

Ghostlight posted:

It actually somewhat is.

Full Controller Support means the game can be launched, configured, and played using only a controller.
Partial Controller Support means that some part of the game requires a keyboard or mouse.

Generally when a game has both it means that it has native support for an Xbox controller out of the box (Full) but other controllers require in-game configuration (therefore Partial).

Dark Souls has partial controller support and I'm pretty sure the only thing you use the keyboard for is putting your name in.

edit: if you have a controller plugged in anyway.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 05:36

PrinceRandom: Feb 26, 2013

Are there any good mods for the Dawn of War series? I've got soulstorm installed.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:00

Orv: May 4, 2011

PrinceRandom posted:

Are there any good mods for the Dawn of War series? I've got soulstorm installed.

Uninstall Soulstorm. Also no there aren't.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:08

mbt: Aug 13, 2012

Risen 3 is really fun so far, but I love PB games so I dunno what they're like to non-fans.

I'd describe 3 as a pirate version of risen 1, or rather a pirate version of gothic 1, right down to the 3 major factions. The combat is what you would expect; I wouldn't compare it favorably to skyrim or the witcher, but those games have barely passable combat to begin with (I'd argue combat was never the point in any case). It's cool because now you can be the swashbuckling pirate, the gunmaster supreme, or the wacky wizard (or the knight? I haven't gotten that far to see any 2handers). Or all of the above, it doesn't make you choose a faction until late. And the factions are affected by how good/evil you are. The more evil you are the less likely humans are to work with you, but you also gain demonic trust.

But yeah you can find the game on sale, give it a shot. Play Risen 1, 2, both or neither. I played 1 and 2 and other than tons of references there isn't any required knowledge coming into it.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:10

Pirate Jet: May 2, 2010

Palpek posted:

I remember these .gifs being from a YouTube video, I can't find it through Google. Anyone know what it was?

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:14

PrinceRandom: Feb 26, 2013

Orv posted:

Uninstall Soulstorm. Also no there aren't.

Too late i enjoy it.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:15

Orv: May 4, 2011

PrinceRandom posted:

Too late i enjoy it.

I'm so sorry.

Pirate Jet posted:

I remember these .gifs being from a YouTube video, I can't find it through Google. Anyone know what it was?

This one. I've been meaning to replay Dishonored in this fashion since I haven't yet done High Chaos, just being as flashy and murderous as possible. Probably not as well though.

Orv fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Aug 13, 2014

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:16

Sober: Nov 19, 2011; First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.

PrinceRandom posted:

Are there any good mods for the Dawn of War series? I've got soulstorm installed.

As someone who worked on some mods for DOW ... not really, because the people behind them were terrible Warhammer40k spergs and actively made anyone who tried to enjoy the game on its own merits feel lovely.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:21

iastudent: Apr 22, 2008

Stan Taylor posted:

Apparently I own both Sacred 2 and Risen 2. Which one should I play if I want to play an explore-y game and maybe mess around with a cool combat system and not have to deal with RPG bullshit? Are either of them worth it?

I can't really speak for Risen 2, but Sacred does have one advantage.

iastudent posted:

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:24

The Iron Rose: May 12, 2012; Cat Army

yo so everytime i start steam up it fails to recognize the steam library on my G:/ hard drive. i.e. not my C drive. I've tried opting in and out of the beta to no avail. If I try to install a game it tells me to select my steam library and detects everything fine, but it's totes annoying.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:24

Sober: Nov 19, 2011; First touch: Life.
Second touch: Dead again. Forever.

RBA Starblade posted:

What's the "other games" section in the game library supposed to be for? All that's in there for me is Pinball Arcade.

Might be installed Free to Play games you don't technically 'own' until you buy a piece of DLC off the Steam Store so it counts towards your game total. At least, that's what it seems to be for me.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:25

Ciaphas: Nov 20, 2005; > BEWARE, COWARD

Palpek posted:

I'd go with Dishonored then.

Y'know, I never did get very far in Dishonored. Like only to the first real level. Should give it another try.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:31

Xtanstic: Nov 23, 2007

Ciaphas posted:

Y'know, I never did get very far in Dishonored. Like only to the first real level. Should give it another try.

The trick is to not treat it like a normal stealth game. If you get detected, don't quickload. Blink away like a maniac or just kill everyone.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:38

Wiggly Wayne DDS: Sep 11, 2010

Lord Lambeth posted:

Dark Souls has partial controller support and I'm pretty sure the only thing you use the keyboard for is putting your name in.

edit: if you have a controller plugged in anyway.

Having wrestled with Dark Souls not an hour ago I disagree - GFWL is still a bitch.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:38

Head Hit Keyboard: Oct 9, 2012; It must be fate that has brought us together after all these years.

Palpek posted:

I'd go with Dishonored then.

That poo poo looks so nuts but when I play it it's so obvious that that's not how you're supposed to play the combat feels so janky.

A whole game that was basically a Dishonored raging murder game without the jank would be amazing.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:39

PrinceRandom: Feb 26, 2013

Sober posted:

As someone who worked on some mods for DOW ... not really, because the people behind them were terrible Warhammer40k spergs and actively made anyone who tried to enjoy the game on its own merits feel lovely.

Shame. I know literally nothing about Warhammer but picked up the whole series on a sale (oops).

I feel like there's another strategy game that I can't name that has a resource system like Dawn of War.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:41

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Luisfe: Aug 17, 2005; Hee-lo-ho!

Head Hit Keyboard posted:

That poo poo looks so nuts but when I play it it's so obvious that that's not how you're supposed to play the combat feels so janky.

A whole game that was basically a Dishonored raging murder game without the jank would be amazing.

I feel that the only game that gets the feel shown in those gifs constantly and consistently is Hotline Miami.
Yeah you don't have superpowers.
But it feels like those gifs.

# ? Aug 13, 2014 06:44

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