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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-14/hockey-under-pressure-over-petrol-excise/5669570 Joe Hockey doesn't really seem to be cut out for this whole Government thing.
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(Phone-posting) Can someone post the Courier-Mail thing about Hockey? Also ICAC today has been glorious. Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Aug 14, 2014 |
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Aug 14, 2014 03:10
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Doctor Spaceman posted:(Phone-posting) Can someone post the Courier-Mail front page? Scylo posted:
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Aug 14, 2014 03:13
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webmeister posted:What's happening at ICAC? I realised too late the Courier-Mail thing about Hockey might not have been on the front page. ICAC has had some hilariously incompetent lying, amongst other things. McClymont's twitter feed is great.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:15
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Newcastle Lord Mayor just admitted to bribing another state MP.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:20
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quote:I fully support this suing of Mike Carlton. Why should the Racial Discrimination Act be used to silence only conservatives? Let the Left now realise the law menaces even their own and must be scrapped as a crime against free speech: 
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Aug 14, 2014 03:23
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Actually I think the problem with Labor is that too many of their leaders try to be Paul Keating but the poo poo Keating got away with just doesn't fly anymore in a biased, sensitive media landscape.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:26
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2724463/nside-privileged-life-Joe-Hockey-doesnt-think-poor-people-drive-cars.html I don't know if this has been posted yet, but above, the Daily Mail tears into Joe Hockey's property portfolio and patronage of two separate North Shore golf clubs. Good for a laugh.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:30
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Murodese posted:You're like 4/4 for dumb posts now. Would you agree that a depiction of Aboriginals as apemen in a cartoon wouldn't offend you, and why are you so racist? There is a pretty massive difference between hey that is offensive and hey I am offended and as such am going to launch a court case based on section 18C.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:39
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Like honestly, have you got any kind of reason to believe that the courts would buy into the racial vilification act as being some kind of obscenity/public decency law rather than being there to be used by people who have actually been racially vilified, such as for example, a person who was actually Jewish? Because if not then you're basically just really loving dumb.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:43
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Anidav posted:Actually I think the problem with Labor is that too many of their leaders try to be Paul Keating but the poo poo Keating got away with just doesn't fly anymore in a biased, sensitive media landscape. Also, remember that Keating was never opposition leader. And while Leo McLeay wasn't anywhere near as bad as Bronwyn Bishop is now, he certainly let Keating get away with a fair bit - as opposed to the totally hostile atmosphere Shorten (or indeed any non-Lib) faces in the current House.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:44
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Anidav posted:Actually I think the problem with Labor is that too many of their leaders try to be Paul Keating but the poo poo Keating got away with just doesn't fly anymore in a biased, sensitive media landscape. Yeah, that's also fair. He taunted Downer, in particular, pretty mercilessly in ways that I doubt he'd be able to get away with today.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:45
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Amethyst posted:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-14/hockey-under-pressure-over-petrol-excise/5669570 Ahahaha even Bernardi is telling Hockey to stop being such a fuckhead.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:49
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Gough Suppressant posted:There is a pretty massive difference between hey that is offensive and hey I am offended and as such am going to launch a court case based on section 18C. the difference is that he's an avid commenter on andrew bolt's blog and is unaware of the existence of hypocrisy
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Aug 14, 2014 03:49
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Murodese posted:the difference is that he's an avid commenter on andrew bolt's blog and is unaware of the existence of hypocrisy Regardless of your slapfight with muyb, it'd be a pretty steep change if a judge allows 18c to be pursued by somebody who isn't directly vilified by the laws.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:51
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Gough Suppressant posted:Ahahaha even Bernardi is telling Hockey to stop being such a fuckhead. The SMH article on the same subject quotes the Senator for Xstrata saying much the same thing
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Les Affaires posted:Regardless of your slapfight with muyb, it'd be a pretty steep change if a judge allows 18c to be pursued by somebody who isn't directly vilified by the laws. That's not a slapfight, we limit our slapfights to IRC
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Aug 14, 2014 03:52
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 So the guy suing under 18C is not Jewish and previously said that people that don't support 18C should invoke it as a protest. Yeah he's not going to have any standing whatsoever.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:53
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Murodese are you saying that you would see it as your duty to bring legal action under 18C against a cartoon depicting aboriginal people with ape-like features? Your burden even?
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Aug 14, 2014 03:53
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Pred1ct posted:
Yeah, pretty clear abuse of process.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:54
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As mentioned by Greg Jericho - might want to also look at 18D. quote:RACIAL DISCRIMINATION ACT 1975 - SECT 18D Bolt wasn't in good faith, Carlton will be able to argue it easily.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:56
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Yeah, both the 18D provision and the fact that it was brought as a spurious case will get it thrown out AND only serve to frustrate those that oppose 18C even moreso.
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Aug 14, 2014 03:59
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And the fact that Fairfax has already apologized - quite unreservedly - at least for the cartoon. Given that successful 18C cases tend to end in apologies.
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Aug 14, 2014 04:07
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This should be interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ7Wa56vsq0
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Aug 14, 2014 04:08
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 That's the Courier Mail thing I wanted.
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Aug 14, 2014 04:12
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I love that global cooling article. I actually love it to bits, it's just the most amazing piece of one eyed scaremongering and bias ever. I especially love how "renewables" are a drain on the economy rather than an investment in you know "renewable" energy rather than poo poo that once we've dug it all up we're out of. Renewables secure our energy future you insincere poo poo.
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Aug 14, 2014 04:13
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Dubs posted:It will have to be soon, after they cut the train there will be no vacant lots. Are there any other Newcastle posters/lurkers around here?
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hawaiian_robot posted:Are there any other Newcastle posters/lurkers around here? I grew up there, moved to Sydney in 2000. Most of my family and lots of (old) school friends are there though.
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Aug 14, 2014 04:20
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quote:"I don't think [the Treasurer has] ever lived in a rural, regional, or remote area where he may have been a school leaver, a job seeker, unemployed, low to mid-income where there's no public transport," he said. The irony that Hockey is trying to quote facts and getting hated on is just unbelievably amazing. e; also, they're really pushing the "overall tax burden $" hard over the more appropriate "tax burden as a percentage of income"
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Murodese posted:e; also, they're really pushing the "overall tax burden $" hard over the more appropriate "tax burden as a percentage of income" Which makes little sense as the only reasonable interpretation of what a 'burden' is in these circumstances is the proportional influence it has on one's overall income. How much one pays as an absolute amount is meaningless unless it's put in the context of their overall earnings. Does he really think that paying (say) $10,000 out of a $50,000 income exacts the same burden on the individual as the same amount on someone with an income of $500,000? Orkin Mang fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Aug 14, 2014 |
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Aug 14, 2014 04:29
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Doctor Spaceman posted:That's the Courier Mail thing I wanted. 
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Aug 14, 2014 04:32
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Also, if it wasn't clear the Nats have sold right the gently caress out already (it was), this is the point.
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Scylo posted:
Bahahahahaha. I laughed at this for literally five minutes straight. Thank you so much. Now if you'll excuse me since I am on welfare I have a school of orphaned puppies to blow up with my jihad vest.
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Sisgmund posted:And the fact that Fairfax has already apologized - quite unreservedly - at least for the cartoon. Given that successful 18C cases tend to end in apologies. no kidding. I've been flicking through that useful interactive history of 18c thing and it seems like an apology can really influence a court's willingness to dismiss a claim.
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Rush Limbaugh says Robin Williams died of a "leftist" world view of "pessimism and darkness." -- If anyone would like to give "mentoring" and giving patronage" to me to the tune of $10k or more, please message me in PMs. Kate McClymont @Kate_McClymont The $10k was not an illegal donation. Grugeon prefers to say it was "mentoring"& "giving patronage" 2 a young man likely 2become an MP #icac
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Aug 14, 2014 04:46
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Hockey uses the 09-10 ABS expenditure survey for his numbers, it's interesting to look at the more recent 2012 energy consumption survey. (09-10 ABS expenditure survey, 6530.0, round to whole numbers) ('12 ABS energy consumption survey, 4670.0) Hockey - "the higher the household income the more fuel taxes are paid by the household" Also interesting to look at those relying on electricity + bottle gas for dwelling energy - the weekly petrol expenditure is over $40 in the bottom quintile. It's a stretch, but not completely unreasonable, to think that this represent more remote and rural areas. For dwelling energy expenditure of 'Electricity, LPG/ bottled gas and other sources of household energy' the bottom quintile's vehicle fuel expenditure is $63 per week. That's more than the average top quintile's vehicle fuel expenditure ($60/wk) (across all dwelling energy sources).
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So he looked at the life story of "Mother Teresa" and it inspired him to hand out gift bags of money to people?
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xutech posted:So he looked at the life story of "Mother Teresa" and it inspired him to hand out gift bags of money to people? "[s posted:Clay Davis[/s] Jeff McCloy"]"The guy from Swansea came to see me, Garry - he rang me - it was (on a) a Saturday, he came round to my home, whatever was in my wallet, 1500 bucks, raffle tickets or something. I gave him a few bob. 
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