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Radbot posted:I'm sure they interviewed that tagger to ensure he was part of the protest too. No one would ever tag something in Oakland otherwise.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I'll find you the video in a second, but this is baloney. It's from the same day. Thanks, I'll look at this later once I'm fully awake.
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Aug 16, 2014 16:03
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Videos like this https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/500527851582791680 are a good response to nonsense like that left-wing "defense of riots" posted way back, who claimed that riots and looting are fine because black people don't actually have ownership of their neighborhoods.
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If you're curious what the Fox News crowd is posting today, it's this: http://toprightnews.com/?p=5136
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Aug 16, 2014 16:51
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As before, it's a few dozen looters at most and hundreds or thousands of peaceful protesters and citizens defending the community. And as before, the riot cops are the ones who probably caused everything.
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ReindeerF posted:If you're curious what the Fox News crowd is posting today, it's this: I guess that's where our mystery men with the ARs went.
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Aug 16, 2014 17:12
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Doing stuff like trashing a Walmart is obviously giving ammunition to the media to keep painting the protesters as violent savages and is a huge "PR mistake" in that sense. I don't think that means that it's automatically "wrong" or unjustified, though.
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ReindeerF posted:If you're curious what the Fox News crowd is posting today, it's this: The answer is always more guns. If Michael Brown had been armed to the teeth he might still be alive 
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The looters aren't even part of the protests, most likely. They're existing criminals who are taking advantage of the chaos of riot police showing up to pillage and burn. They don't give two shits about how the protests are viewed because they're not trying to look like good guys.
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fknlo posted:The answer is always more guns. If Michael Brown had been armed to the teeth he might still be alive I don't want to have to read Fox News bs to find out, are people actually saying that?
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thathonkey posted:I don't want to have to read Fox News bs to find out, are people actually saying that? I haven't seen it. The article is about how business owners and citizens with guns were guarding the places from looters last night. Even Florida gun laws couldn't have protected Brown anyway. He was 18, meaning he couldn't legally purchase or carry a pistol for self-defense in the first place.
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thathonkey posted:I don't want to have to read Fox News bs to find out, are people actually saying that? No, they don't care if Michael Brown dies. But people (white people, incidentally) are using AR-15s to defend their tattoo shop to prevent looting -- cuz tattoo shops are an obvious target for looting -- and so if all property owners had AR-15s, looting would not be an issue.
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thathonkey posted:I don't want to have to read Fox News bs to find out, are people actually saying that? Not about Michael Brown, but quote:And the lesson for politicians, and all Americans (particularly liberal gun-grabbers) is that being armed — and armed to the teeth — is the ONLY defense against a rioting mob. There were police everywhere in Ferguson Sunday night, and not one of those stores were protected against looters. But the two businesses above WERE spared — because they were able to arm themselves.
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thathonkey posted:I don't want to have to read Fox News bs to find out, are people actually saying that? Not just guns, the article makes it clear that it was the presence of high capacity magazines(emphasis theirs) that prevented two stores from being looted.
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So what are the chances that if those shop owners had started shooting to defend themselves against looters that the cops would have perceived them as a threat and responded in kind, resulting in a western style shootout between the police and the shop owners with protesters caught in the crossfire?
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Taeke posted:So what are the chances that if those shop owners had started shooting to defend themselves against looters that the cops would have perceived them as a threat and responded in kind, resulting in a western style shootout between the police and the shop owners with protesters caught in the crossfire? Did that happen with the Korean business owners in the 1992 Los Angeles riots?
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M. Night Skymall posted:Not just guns, the article makes it clear that it was the presence of high capacity magazines(emphasis theirs) that prevented two stores from being looted. Personally, I found the group concealed carrying their firearms in order to keep their store safe to be the most persuasive. Just one look at them and the looters thought, I don't see any guns, but maybe they might be hiding them. Better move along.
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chitoryu12 posted:Did that happen with the Korean business owners in the 1992 Los Angeles riots?
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Antonio French's twitter has a really good play by play of how things went down last night. https://twitter.com/AntonioFrench @AntonioFrench posted:I want to be clear: Police not coming in at this point -- even with the looting -- was a good thing. It would've gotten very violent.
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chitoryu12 posted:Did that happen with the Korean business owners in the 1992 Los Angeles riots? Kinda? There were reports of Korean business owners shooting at each other because one group would get to a group of stores early, set up a barricade, and then others business owners would try to get to their stores later and a shootoff would ensue until both groups figured out they were on the same side. It resulted in at least one death, that of Edward Song Lee, an 18 year old kid trying to help protect his families business who was killed by other Koreans who mistook him for a looter.
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Vienna Circlejerk posted:Antonio French's twitter has a really good play by play of how things went down last night. Agreed, I was following what was happening with him. These two also look good for getting a summary of what happened: https://twitter.com/minossec and https://twitter.com/madamjujujive/lists/michael-brown
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Per CNN, the DOJ told FPD not to release the video and pictures. Evidently they thought it was both inflammatory as well as non-responsive to the sunshine requests. ya think?
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FBI agents have arrived at the command post.
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Damiya posted:Per CNN, the DOJ told FPD not to release the video and pictures. Evidently they thought it was both inflammatory as well as non-responsive to the sunshine requests. Is the FPD as hosed as it seems? I mean, this has gotta be the end of at least a couple of careers, no?
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Damiya posted:Per CNN, the DOJ told FPD not to release the video and pictures. Evidently they thought it was both inflammatory as well as non-responsive to the sunshine requests. Is FPD just TRYING to get replaced?
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What's sad is that regardless of what happens they seem to already have middle Americas support, thanks to not only releasing a video but having the cheif of police saying it was entirely unrelated. I'd do the typical, move to another country rant but that seems pretty useless.
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Just shook the guy who went on the rant last nights hand. He is in mcdonalds.
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Taeke posted:Is the FPD as hosed as it seems? I mean, this has gotta be the end of at least a couple of careers, no? They probably are, but after last night public opinion seems to be shifting to their side. Lots of "They just wanted the police out of there so they could loot more stores" out there today.
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Cease to Hope posted:That tattoo place is all the way the gently caress north of 270. Nothing was happening there. Not just that, but that image was doing the rounds on Wednesday, so it's not from last night.
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What set off the cops last night to start firing teargas or smoke? And was the highway patrol still in charge?
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Love the jumping through hoops in this thread to justify criminal activity.
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D_I posted:Love the jumping through hoops in this thread to justify criminal activity. lol
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D_I posted:Love the jumping through hoops in this thread to justify criminal activity. But I haven't seen more than like one person say the cop was justified for murder?
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Skeevy Mcgee posted:What set off the cops last night to start firing teargas or smoke? And was the highway patrol still in charge? From what I'm seeing, they showed up and started firing tear gas after protesters were marching peacefully; pd were asking them to disperse and get out of the road. And what I've heard so far is that the highway patrol wasn't there at that time, it was the county pd (not sure about this, but it's likely).
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It's mainly people off this site. Funny enough when you counter them with 'it was said it was unrelated' 'He attacked the officer, wait until the case is done before you come to conclusions. He was up to no good.'
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D_I posted:Love the jumping through hoops in this thread to justify criminal activity. You pick out what's useful to you, I guess.
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D_I posted:Love the jumping through hoops in this thread to justify criminal activity. I don't see anyone defending the murderous pig. Could you link to it?
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SectumSempra posted:It's mainly people off this site. These cases always have a large "he wasn't so innocent, you'll see. Just wait for all the facts to come out before you make a judgement" contingent, as if they are in possession of some special insider info. Spoiler: the inside info is always that he was black.
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