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Aug 18, 2014 16:53
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Jonas Albrecht posted:If anyone's interested, here are the squad lists for the Top 4: Help a newbie out, as for actual models the lists are thus: Rick Sidebotham- TIE Phantom, TIE Interceptor, Lambda Shuttle Jeff Beerling- YT-1300, YT-1300 Paul Heaver- YT-1300, X-Wing, Z95 Headhunter Nick Jones- TIE Fighter (multiplied by 7) Plus a butt-load of upgrade cards depending on the list. Correct?
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Aug 18, 2014 17:00
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Swagger Dagger posted:Promos with gameplay impact are garbage Yeah, and it is so frustrating watching people defend them as some kind of game enriching feature.
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Aug 18, 2014 17:16
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Indolent Bastard posted:Help a newbie out, as for actual models the lists are thus: Yes, though if you recreate Heaver's list sans C-3PO you'll only need a YT-1300, a Headhunter and the core set to cover all models and upgrade cards.
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Aug 18, 2014 17:37
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And unless you're doing tournaments, just proxy cards you don't have.
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Aug 18, 2014 17:55
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I had a brilliant idea for promos that were technically unique but wouldn't lock people out of content. Unique pilot cards that either don't have a pilot ability, or duplicate an existing one. Like give us a Lt. Kettch TIE pilot card, but give it the same pilot skill, upgrade slots, ability and point cost of an existing TIE pilot. Just have unique art and flavor text.
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Aug 18, 2014 18:52
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Those Attack Wing promo cards are getting a regular retail release.
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Aug 18, 2014 18:55
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jivjov posted:Like give us a Lt. Kettch TIE Interceptor pilot card, but give it the same pilot skill, upgrade slots, ability and point cost of Fixed that for you. It is my dream. How does the fanbase for X-Wing at local stores seem to be? I understand every store is different, but some friends are encouraging me to try the local X-Wing nights. I'm concerned by the fanbase I've seen for a lot of other games at my FLGS - I would never do a Magic night with strangers after the poo poo I've seen, for example. Does X-Wing tend to attract a more mature audience due to the slightly higher buy-in cost? edit: yub yub motherfuckers
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Aug 18, 2014 19:09
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jivjov posted:I had a brilliant idea for promos that were technically unique but wouldn't lock people out of content. But why would Kettch ever fly for the Empire? SageNytell posted:Fixed that for you. It is my dream. The only complaint I have about the local store's X-Wing night is all the people on the other side of the store playing Magic. Wow, you topdecked the right card; this is something that has never happened to anyone before and is entirely worth shouting about for an entire minute. The X-Wing players are all super chill, though. Poopy Palpy fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Aug 18, 2014 |
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Aug 18, 2014 19:09
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SageNytell posted:Fixed that for you. It is my dream. Warhammer is expensive and it's filled with fuckwits.
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Aug 18, 2014 19:14
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SageNytell posted:Fixed that for you. It is my dream. Higher buy-in cost just attracts spergs if we look at war hams' clientele. X-wing attracts people who like pew pew noises and the movies so it's a bunch of cool dudes. Fly casual is the motto for the nova squadron. It helps that the rules and balance is tight so there are no grognard arguments. In my experience the playerbase is older and many have kids. They're the cool dad types.
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Aug 18, 2014 19:15
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SageNytell posted:Fixed that for you. It is my dream. Aside from terrible nerd shittiness like unironic Empire apologists, it's pretty good. We've got one guy who screams swear words when he rolls poorly but he has stopped showing up as much. I just stopped playing him, got tired of hearing how I only won because my dice were hot. The problem at my store is that they schedule other events for that night too, so the store is full of unwashed minis players and magic players love to come in and take tables when it isn't their league night.
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Aug 18, 2014 19:19
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So what are the typical point values for games? I watched my flatmates play 100 points each and it was pretty interesting, they both had 3 ships so there was a fair bit going on. Does the game get better or worse when you add more points?
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Aug 18, 2014 19:38
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It's less interesting as you add more points. You make less choices and just take the best options.
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Aug 18, 2014 19:39
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100 points is tournament rules. I've seen 3x2 200 point games, 150 point games, "everything we have in the table" point games, and everything in between. Go nuts.
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Aug 18, 2014 19:41
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alg posted:Aside from terrible nerd shittiness like unironic Empire apologists Only if Thrawn's in charge.  (Are we not getting a separate Armada thread until next year?)
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Aug 18, 2014 20:09
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alg posted:It's less interesting as you add more points. You make less choices and just take the best options. On the other hand, I find 100 points to be boring as hell, as I haven't seen a new list at 100 pts in months. But the thread does have a massive hard on for 100 pts and tournament play.
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Aug 18, 2014 20:15
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Corbeau posted:Only if Thrawn's in charge. I have a thread up for Other FFG Star Wars games covering Armada, Imperial Assault, and Empire vs Rebellion. Since none of those are out yet, I figure we can keep them all in one thread until such time as discussion for one starts overwhelming the other 2 or something. EDIT: Plus when I made this thread, I kinda had the feeling that X-Wing is a "big" enough thing to sustain a full thread without having Armada-chat inflating it.
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Aug 18, 2014 20:17
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Is there a fan-made store locator somewhere? My local stores are mostly poo poo for one reason or another, so I figured I'd try looking elsewhere. Also yes, give me all the Chiss stuff, thanks.
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Aug 18, 2014 20:17
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TheTofuShop posted:On the other hand, I find 100 points to be boring as hell, as I haven't seen a new list at 100 pts in months. What does this mean? I'm active in a league and keep track of the competitive scene, wave 4 has been crazy for new lists and Wave 5 will be even more interesting.
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Aug 18, 2014 20:18
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Phantoms totally hosed the meta, and Decimators will even harder. Yssane Isardo is a better 3P0. 360 hlcs is going to be awesome. Rebel Aces is going to make A-wings competitive again. It's a good time to play tournament.
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Aug 18, 2014 20:22
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alg posted:What does this mean? I'm active in a league and keep track of the competitive scene, wave 4 has been crazy for new lists and Wave 5 will be even more interesting. At my store, I haven't seen a new list in months. It means exactly what I said. Perhaps its just my local store, but there are like...4 lists total that people bring to the store here? I know everyone here loves 100, I find 100 points to be where its not that fun at all. Every imperial list running phantom or a tie swarm, and rebels are either double falcon or XXBB, in my experience. At 155-200+, the game just seems to open up to a lot more possibilities, and is a lot more fun imo. Then again you have to fight crusty old Axis and Allies players tooth and nail for table space at my LGS, so most of the time we stay home and play Beer Wing.
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Aug 18, 2014 20:27
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With so much stuff coming out to make A-wings and especially Tycho ridiculously good, I hope we get the Interceptor upgrades promised in that interview sooner rather than later. Speaking of, since wave 6 is going to be entirely Scum, have we seen all of wave 5? I thought Aces were a separate thing like the huge ship boxes and we were due two more wave 5 ships, but I guess I'm wrong.  It's sad, because low PS Inties need some love.
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Aug 18, 2014 20:56
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Lemon Curdistan posted:With so much stuff coming out to make A-wings and especially Tycho ridiculously good, I hope we get the Interceptor upgrades promised in that interview sooner rather than later. Pretty sure wave 5 is Decimator/Mini-Falcon/Rebel Aces.
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Aug 18, 2014 21:04
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Crackbone posted:Pretty sure wave 5 is Decimator/Mini-Falcon/Rebel Aces. As a point of pedantic concern; Rebel Aces is not technically part of Wave 5. It just happens to be coming out at the same time. But yeah, unless FFG has been pulling some kind of crazy long con and two mystery ships are forthcoming, Wave 5 is just the YT-2400 and the Decimator.
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Aug 18, 2014 21:10
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Remember when the Falcon first came out? Those were the days
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Aug 18, 2014 21:27
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jivjov posted:As a point of pedantic concern; Rebel Aces is not technically part of Wave 5. It just happens to be coming out at the same time. Yeah, that was my point. I was under the impression we'd get Wave 5 being four ships (like the other previous waves), the Aces boxes not actually being part of the wave.
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Aug 18, 2014 21:30
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Yeah, that was my point. I was under the impression we'd get Wave 5 being four ships (like the other previous waves), the Aces boxes not actually being part of the wave. I'm kinda happy Wave 5 is just the 2 big ships...Buying 2 bigs costs the same as 4 smalls, so my pocketbook won't feel the sting of Wave 5 as hard.
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Aug 18, 2014 21:37
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alg posted:Aside from terrible nerd shittiness like unironic Empire apologists I'm an Empire Apologist if only because they have much better fashion sense than the Rebel scum. I mean, seriously. Officers Uniforms. e: Also Palpatine's characterization in Robot Chicken.
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Aug 19, 2014 00:09
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Chill la Chill posted:Higher buy-in cost just attracts spergs if we look at war hams' clientele. X-wing attracts people who like pew pew noises and the movies so it's a bunch of cool dudes. Fly casual is the motto for the nova squadron. It helps that the rules and balance is tight so there are no grognard arguments. In my experience the playerbase is older and many have kids. They're the cool dad types. Are you in the NOVA area? I live in Waldorf and would love to find a group of people to pew pew spaceships with.
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Aug 19, 2014 04:11
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Are you in the NOVA area? I live in Waldorf and would love to find a group of people to pew pew spaceships with. Yep but I'm in school now so I'll be back during winter break. Ask to join the nova squad Facebook group and ask around or look for events.
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Aug 19, 2014 04:36
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Played another couple games tonight. My buddy and I swapped factions to see what it's like on the other side. I played Whisper with PtL, ACD; Yorr with Rebel Captive, HLC; Howrunnder with Wingman. I lost but really liked the stress shuffle I was pulling around. Came back to Rebs for a more serious back to basics list with Wedge, R2D2, Swarm; 2x Rookie Pilot; Gold Squad, Ion Turret. I won with a bit of luck with the dice, and Ion'ing a Defender twice to allow sweet Range 1 shots up his tailpipe. I like it, I may use that this weekend for a tournament, but man, I do miss my YT...
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Aug 19, 2014 05:06
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Y-Wings are my favorite rebel ship so it gets my vote.
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Aug 19, 2014 06:13
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My first competitive play was Imdaar Alpha with 2 Gold Y's + Ion Turret, Wedge + R2D2, and...some other X-wing. I took second out of like 20, and got a Phantom. XXYY will forever have a place in my heart.
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Aug 19, 2014 06:16
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Are you in the NOVA area? I live in Waldorf and would love to find a group of people to pew pew spaceships with. I am in Montgomery county MD and would love to go pew pew.
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Aug 19, 2014 07:18
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Poopy Palpy posted:The only complaint I have about the local store's X-Wing night is all the people on the other side of the store playing Magic. Wow, you topdecked the right card; this is something that has never happened to anyone before and is entirely worth shouting about for an entire minute. Actually, topdecking the right card (from someone else's deck) saved my rear end so good once because I used this guy's ablity and pulled the one Glaring Spotlight the guy had in a deathtouch-pinger deck. I know it's off-topic, but MTG does have clutch moments where cool stuff like that happens, like an Epic game last night where a single stressed TIE with one hull remaining survived an ion cannon, a stressed Ibitsam and two A-wings. Competitive chat: Used Wedge+Outmaneuver again in the aforementioned Epic game (300pts) and he once again kicked rear end. Phantom decloaks and didn't have Wedge in his firing arc, the pilot gave me the biggest wide-eyed look when I told him he gets no evade dice against Wedge (who was at range 1)  Chill la Chill posted:Higher buy-in cost just attracts spergs if we look at war hams' clientele. X-wing attracts people who like pew pew noises and the movies so it's a bunch of cool dudes. Fly casual is the motto for the nova squadron. It helps that the rules and balance is tight so there are no grognard arguments. In my experience the playerbase is older and many have kids. They're the cool dad types. (someone rolls insanely bad) "Jeeeeeeesus" "Yes, my child?" 
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Aug 19, 2014 07:32
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Got my Wave 5/RebAces today. The Decimator is baller. As. gently caress. The YT-2400 model is kinda underwhelming. The YT-1300 is so much more detailed, it's sort of a letdown.
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Aug 20, 2014 00:56
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Well it's a newer model of shop. Which of course means it's less chunky, more sleek. It's so futuristic, CEC wanted to chrome plate it, but was afraid the Nubian shipyards would sue.
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Aug 20, 2014 01:05
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overdesigned posted:Got my Wave 5/RebAces today. The Decimator is baller. As. gently caress. Where'd you get them? It's hard to tell when stores will be shipping Aces.
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Aug 20, 2014 01:28
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The owner of my FLGS went up to GenCon, he had Very Important Gamer badges for him and a friend so was able to come back with 4x of each, and sold 3 of them on first-come-first-serve basis.
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Aug 20, 2014 02:01
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