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HiveCommander posted:Psybolts are gone entirely, and Psycannons are still 24". But are we still restricted in Paladins to 1 psycannon/5 guys? Or can we take one for 3? I'm sad they're not troops anymore with Draigo, but 2x5 Termies also works.
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Aug 19, 2014 12:11
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HiveCommander posted:No fancy forge org manipulation though, so Paladins are always Elites. lame HiveCommander posted:Speaking of, Paladin minimum squad size is 3 now. lame, Solodins were a cool fun gimmick.
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Aug 19, 2014 12:12
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Anomandaris posted:But are we still restricted in Paladins to 1 psycannon/5 guys? Or can we take one for 3? I'm sad they're not troops anymore with Draigo, but 2x5 Termies also works. Two per 5 for Paladins (Purifiers are the same too).
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Aug 19, 2014 12:19
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Does Crowe still make Purifiers troops? Otherwise the only fully painted army I have has just been invalidated hah.
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Aug 19, 2014 12:20
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How do salvo weapons work on dreads and terminators? Thanks for all the answers :-)
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Aug 19, 2014 12:21
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HardCoil posted:How do salvo weapons work on dreads and terminators? They count as always being stationary.
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Aug 19, 2014 12:32
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I thought so as well, but why does the Heavy Psycannon have a Salvo 3/6 option then? It's not exactly man portable...
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Aug 19, 2014 12:43
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serious gaylord posted:Does Crowe still make Purifiers troops? No he doesn't, but he's not a loner anymore (finally an IC) and he doesn't give Furious Charge to stuff that charges him. His weapon is just a S:user with no AP, but in challenges he gets Smash and Blade Parry.
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Aug 19, 2014 12:44
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HardCoil posted:I thought so as well, but why does the Heavy Psycannon have a Salvo 3/6 option then? It's not exactly man portable... Completion. Same reason why Heavy Grav has a complete profile, even though Centurions are relentless.
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Aug 19, 2014 12:49
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Oh, it's worth noting that Psycannons aren't available on vehicles. Since Psybolts have been removed, we can't even give them 'Psycannons'.
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Aug 19, 2014 13:08
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Wow, not even on dreads? Is there any decent anti armour left?
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Aug 19, 2014 13:14
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Mindstrike missiles have been replaced with S8, AP2 Concussion missiles but aside from that, it's pretty much GKT Psycannons (sword+Psycannon is cheaper than a Paladin so they're pretty spammable). We might have to resort to Storm Raven spam. Re-looked at the Fury of Deimos and it's actually not that bad. 10pts for a 36" range mastercrafted Storm Bolter with Precision Shot.
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Aug 19, 2014 13:24
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Sounds like Codex: No Fun Allowed.
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Aug 19, 2014 13:34
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Yup, sounds like a real lovely  re-write.Maybe even worse than the last 'codex' SoB got?
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Aug 19, 2014 13:40
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I can spam GKTs more which is a silver(grey?) lining but we're really encouraged to use allies for anti-tank. Vendetta squadron ahoy!
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Aug 19, 2014 13:45
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I'm glad the Inquisition is out of the GK codex because then when they eventually rewrite  stuff I was hoping it would have in the first place.
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Aug 19, 2014 13:55
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GK never really had good AT. The psyflemen were good for stripping HP off transports, and can honestly still do that at S7. The Stormraven is slightly better now with the AP2 missiles but still pays for a transport capacity which you will probably not use and one will not be enough for solid AT. I think the lack of psybolts on infantry actually hurts our anti-infantry more. Before I could reliably mow down T4 infantry for only 20p per squad. S4 on storm bolters is not that awesome for an army with no long-range shooting. I would take the Storm Wing dataslate as a great anti-tank/anti-flyer squadron. It comes with no HQ tax, all three flyers arrive in one turn and the Stormraven has BS2 against ground targets while one Stormtalon lives. You can paint them in GK colours and nobody will complain if you don't like regular marines next to your GK. One more question, did the interceptors get a price cut? I tried them a little in 5th but found them too expensive for what they brought.
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Aug 19, 2014 14:11
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Base interceptor squad is the same (130pts) but they're 2 points less per model. Shunting still works as it did before, but the loss of Psybolts really hurts how I usually fielded them. On the plus side, Incinerators only cost 5pts for them now and you can have 2 in a max squad. No more mobility tax!
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ghetto wormhole posted:I'm glad the Inquisition is out of the GK codex because then when they eventually rewrite lol if you actually believe this would ever happen.
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Aug 19, 2014 14:26
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Just assembled my third Flying Hive Tyrant. I really like the look of the Tervigon Spine Cluster arms to use as Devourers instead of the relatively dinky-sized arms of modified Devourers or the Forgeworld option (which I'm not spending $22 on anyway). Now to paint it up so I can have 6 FMCs in a 1500pt game. 
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Aug 19, 2014 14:47
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PierreTheMime posted:Now to paint it up so I can have 6 FMCs in a 1500pt game.
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HiveCommander posted:Base interceptor squad is the same (130pts) but they're 2 points less per model. Shunting still works as it did before, but the loss of Psybolts really hurts how I usually fielded them. On the plus side, Incinerators only cost 5pts for them now and you can have 2 in a max squad. No more mobility tax! Is this two weapons, regardless of squad size? That would actually make them fairly solid. Can Purgators, Purifiers, Interceptors, and Dreadknights all Deep Strike and benefit from the "arrive first turn and run/shoot with twin-link" and all that jazz? Do Nemesis Force Swords do anything above and beyond the abilities common to all NFW (and being AP3, of course)? Are Aegis and Preferred Enemy (Daemons) still things for the units? Aside from being an IC, is Crowe any different now? Did they fix his stances?
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SRM posted:It's not the Hive Tyrant who is the monster here PTM is my 'nid hero.  I wish there was a cute 'nid emote.
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NTRabbit posted:I got all my Guardians from the Eldar Battle Force, and those should be exactly the same sprues right? I've got some I haven't done yet here, each sprue of 5 Guardians has 4 helmets and a bare head. I don't understand it one bit. It does sound like the sprue has two bare heads per ten, though. Welp, time to suck it down and equip a bare head, since my bits are... somewhere.  HiveCommander posted:Psybolts are gone entirely, and Psycannons are still 24". "Thanks for buying all those new models to make an all-Paladin army, now go gently caress yourself." -GW By the same token, it means Deathwing won't be in the next Dark Angels codex. I'm sure there will be a dataslate for Paladin armies and Deathwing, though. 
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Aug 19, 2014 15:45
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It's cool that the new codex costs more money, has less units, less FoC altering options, less upgrades and less fun. Furthermore, I love the taste of poo poo in my mouth. Please crap directly onto my face, but please, no homo!
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Aug 19, 2014 15:54
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Where are people getting this Greyknight stuff from, ugh is it going to be the next book release?
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Moola posted:Furthermore, I love the taste of poo poo in my mouth. Please crap directly onto my face, but please, no homo! same
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Hollismason posted:Where are people getting this Greyknight stuff from, ugh is it going to be the next book release? 1. The codex 2. Duh and/or hello And to make this post slightly more helpful: Codices, like everything else, leak early. As for if it's the next thing, well, games workshop have a helpful website that showcases their latest products, which, right now, is plastered with Grey Knights stuff. That should tell you everything you need to know.
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Fucccck I was still catching up with Space Wolves. Well that's what i get for spending 2 weeks in the hospital on drugs.
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ANAmal.net posted:same 
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What the comic is that from.
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HiveCommander posted:No he doesn't, but he's not a loner anymore (finally an IC) and he doesn't give Furious Charge to stuff that charges him. His weapon is just a S:user with no AP, but in challenges he gets Smash and Blade Parry. Rips my 26 model army of Draigo, Crowe, 5 Paladins, 15 Purifiers and 2 Dreads. You died how you lived, after playing 3 games in 3 years.
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AbusePuppy posted:Is this two weapons, regardless of squad size? That would actually make them fairly solid. No, it's one per 5 models as it used to be. Still, it's a lot cheaper than before and you could always combat-squad the two Incinerators together. NFSwords are just Daemonbane Force weapons (Daemonbane gives you rerolls to wound/pen vs Daemons while Force is active). Big missed opportunity on not having deepstrike on the BHC though (and by extension, Crowe). They can't arrive with the rest of the army, which sucks.
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Post 9-11 User posted:By the same token, it means Deathwing won't be in the next Dark Angels codex. I'm sure there will be a dataslate for Paladin armies and Deathwing, though. Couldn't they do Deathwing/Ravenwing with custom FOCs for them?
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Post 9-11 User posted:I don't understand it one bit. It does sound like the sprue has two bare heads per ten, though. I don't understand this tbh, it was one of the things that made people buy GK models. I mean I suppose I can switch stuff around to have 2 strike squads and a purgation squad but its just not the same.
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Codex Grey Knights is the ultimate proof that GW will nerf existing units just so that they can sell their lovely new 3D-designed hot garbage models with overpowered rules.
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Post 9-11 User posted:By the same token, it means Deathwing won't be in the next Dark Angels codex. I'm sure there will be a dataslate for Paladin armies and Deathwing, though. They really couldn't poo poo on the army any more than it has already so whatever. ChrisAsmadi posted:Couldn't they do Deathwing/Ravenwing with custom FOCs for them? Said custom FOCs would inevitably lose Objective Secured, which means no one is going to want to field them; an entire army of terminators without OS is even more gimped than usual (and that is loving saying something). Ravenwing is done better with White Scars right now anyway so anyone rolling them should probably just use the SM book.
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LOL and to think I didn't sell my grey knights because the idea of being rid of so many paladins was just too painful. gently caress me. Guess I can hold out hope that the other $50 Grey Knight book will still have them.
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When I got Eldar bikes years ago I replaced the torsos and heads with contemporary Guardian bits. But the leather jacket torsos are really cool. I have Grey Knights, Eldar, and other armies with potential IG allies, what would look great with leather jackets? And, no, I can't make five Marbos. I mean, I could, but I shouldn't. Slimnoid posted:They really couldn't poo poo on the army any more than it has already so whatever. Is that a CHALLENGE? 
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