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My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Berke Negri posted:

Every politico male I've met can probably only work in politics because if they tried to find a real job they'd be slapped with an EEO suit in short matter of time.

It's like a casino: You don't ask too many questions, and you're willing to look the other way when you have to deal with blow and escorts.

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Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Joementum posted:

George Holding's (R-NC) press staff could probably put a little more effort into the fight against ISIS.



Replace ISIS with DEBT and you have half the political toons thread. The other 49.999% is thinly veiled racism.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
That's also everyone in high level finance and law. Can't speak for every other profession, but quite a number of medical professionals as well. Basically ANYONE WITH MONEY.

This is what makes the Mormons such a loving prize for America!

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Raskolnikov38 posted:

Yeah I'm with amergin on this. The 'why do you bother responding to him' posts are infinitely worse and more worthless than his.

Amergin is the booster shot vaccine that keeps SA's liberal antibodies from becoming complacent.

You should always call out bullshit, and never let it slide. Even if the person believes it and you believe they will never change.
Never forget that there are real people even in office who believe in the talking points he raises.

"Don't give in to cynicism."
- President Barack Hussein Obama

Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Aug 27, 2014

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
Just click the link, I can't make a joke funnier than the truth

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Poor Perry, even keeping track of two things is too much for him.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

ComradeCosmobot posted:

Poor Perry, even keeping track of two things is too much for him.

His intense desire to be the next Reagan led him to develop early-onset Alzheimer's, apparently.

Davethulhu
Aug 12, 2003

Morbid Hound
This is not the first time an pre-teen has killed someone with an Uzi. Several years ago, a kid capped himself in the head at a gun show when the recoil walked the barrel up and over.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/27399337/ns/us_news-life/t/boy-accidentally-kills-self-gun-show/#.U_49h0t8PeI

Davethulhu fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Aug 27, 2014

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Here I made a 2x4 so you can patch up those stairs yourself! Use it liberally.



timg for the non-dumb.

Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Raskolnikov38 posted:

Here I made a 2x4 so you can patch up those stairs yourself! Use it liberally.



timg for the non-dumb.

Right, because we weren't talking about the people talking about that idiot or anything you dense poo poo. Try to keep up.

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


My Imaginary GF posted:

It's like a casino: You don't ask too many questions, and you're willing to look the other way when you have to deal with blow and escorts.

This is pretty accurate. Nowadays I just steer clear as much I can. Last night's election party was timed to show up right as the results came in, shake hands of people I liked, then get out before the cameras go away and power tripping dorks get sloshed on bud light and rum and diets and talk turns to which just out of high school volunteer they'd like to bang.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Berke Negri posted:

This is pretty accurate. Nowadays I just steer clear as much I can. Last night's election party was timed to show up right as the results came in, shake hands of people I liked, then get out before the cameras go away and power tripping dorks get sloshed on bud light and rum and diets and talk turns to which just out of high school volunteer they'd like to bang.

That Dan character on Veep? I've got a thousand cards of Dans in my rolodex. Some are smarter about it than others, some more discreet, and some absolutely willing to do what it takes to make the deal. Theys what we calls Team Players, until they get caught.

Surprisingly, few are intelligent enough to play the long game. Those that are usually end up appointed or elected.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Amergin is a national treasure and his posts make this thread worth reading. I don't watch any news TV and I need to see rebuttals to standard rightwing arguments. Plus, the "go team!" action of it is fun to watch.

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.
And in the "loving Tragic Irony" department, here's a tweet from this afternoon by NRA Women:



Looks like they've since taken that tweet down.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Duke Igthorn posted:

:qq:Right, because we weren't talking about the people talking about that idiot or anything you dense poo poo. Try to keep up.:qq:

Go get some food and take a nap and hopefully when you wake up you'll be done throwing a temper tantrum because no is forcing you to read amergin's post or anyone responding to him and you can even ignore him and the posters responding to him!

e: you only have one post in this thread outside of this argument, why don't you shut the gently caress up and go back to only reading it.

Raskolnikov38 fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Aug 28, 2014

Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Raskolnikov38 posted:

:ccb: Go get some food and take a nap and hopefully when you wake up you'll be done throwing a temper tantrum because no is forcing you to read amergin's post or anyone responding to him and you can even ignore him and the posters responding to him!:ccb:

e: you only have one post in this thread outside of this argument, why don't you shut the gently caress up and go back to only reading it.:ccb: :smuggo:
It's not my fault you can't follow a simple conversation.

A conversation you were involved in.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
Pretty sure I followed it since my point is that the

Duke Igthorn posted:

the poo poo poster and the poo poo storm they create is just something we have to live with.

poo poo storm is entirely of the making of you and likeminded posters and that'd if you'd all learn how to scroll past things or use the ignore function there wouldn't be a poo poo storm!

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Sir Tonk posted:

Guys, what if Libertarians aren't even real?

Meanwhile, the company run by Andrew Hunt, the Libertarian candidate for Governor of Georgia, has received $38m in federal grants, but it's OK because the market a panel of nerds decides: "It’s not an earmark to a company. It’s not pork,” Hunt said. “Engineers and scientists sit on a panel and decide who gets the award or not."

Xibanya
Sep 17, 2012




Clever Betty
I almost wonder if the comments about how Uzis are totally for nine year olds are in part not cynical shilling at all but once again just world fallacy causing people to blame the victim.

God that means they would actually truly believe it's cool to let a 9 year old play with machine guns.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

OAquinas posted:

And in the "loving Tragic Irony" department, here's a tweet from this afternoon by NRA Women:



Looks like they've since taken that tweet down.

I'm surprised they took it down- I was unaware that the NRA understood the concepts of "bad publicity" and "shame".

GROVER CURES HOUSE
Aug 26, 2007

Go on...

Shbobdb posted:

Amergin is a national treasure and his posts make this thread worth reading. I don't watch any news TV and I need to see rebuttals to standard rightwing arguments. Plus, the "go team!" action of it is fun to watch.

If only he'd poo poo up a thread I didn't read very often, that'd be great.

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

theshim posted:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28948946

Girl was at a shooting range, instructor had her fire an Uzi on full auto.

Davethulhu posted:

This is not the first time an pre-teen has killed someone with an Uzi. Several years ago, a kid capped himself in the head at a gun show when the recoil walked the barrel up and over.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/27399337/ns/us_news-life/t/boy-accidentally-kills-self-gun-show/#.U_49h0t8PeI
:wtc: I can understand introducing kids to guns to teach them how they work, safety rules and all that (I think it's a good idea actually, as long you follow all the safety precautions and the kid is okay with it) but why would you ever give a kid a fully automatic weapon?

Evil Fluffy posted:

I hope the gun range has to pay for all the therapy that girl's going to need now.

When I was taught to fire a rifle it was a 22/410 combo thing and single shot and I was probably 8 or 9 at the time(my brother fired a shotgun when he was 9 or 10 and him describing the kick kept me from wanting to try it). If someone had offered to let me fire a full auto weapon when I was 9 my parents would've ripped them several new assholes because guns are not goddamn toys and unless you're training a child soldier you have no reason to let this poo poo take place. There's not reason children in the US should be handling full auto weapons. It should be illegal but good loving luck with that while the NRA's out there whoring for gun manufacturers and riling up millions of idiots for are freedoms.
This, exactly, basically. Seriously, :wtc:.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

fade5 posted:

:wtc: I can understand introducing kids to guns to teach them how they work, safety rules and all that (I think it's a good idea actually, as long you follow all the safety precautions and the kid is okay with it) but why would you ever give a kid a fully automatic weapon?

This, exactly, basically. Seriously, :wtc:.

Let's be honest: unless you are in the military, fully automatic weapons are toys.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Cheekio posted:


Either you or I have this very wrong. Mr Hands was fine, he was the guy who owned the farm and paid people for services with his horses. The guy in the video was not alright, that was the instance where something went wrong (namely, Mr. Hands didn't hold on and keep the horse from lethally impaling one of his customers).

Edit2: Looking deeper into the issue there was apparently a documentary that would sort all this out. Good to know, probably worth watching for the cultural irrelevance.

The man who died is the man getting hosed by the horse in the video, and that horse was also probably the one who was involved when the fatal incident occurred several months after that video was recorded.

Xibanya posted:

I think most states have a law against desecrating human remains. Maybe necrophelia falls under that?

Nope. In fact there's a lot of states where laws against that even barely exist.

There is basically shitloads of stuff that no one in their right mind would get up to that are legal only because no one thinks they're likely enough to happen/be caught to justify a law. Like, most people don't need a law to tell them they shouldn't go break in to a fresh grave, dig up the coffin, and have a romantic encounter.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Today would be LBJ's 106th birthday. Here he is in 1967 giving the Pope a gift. The gift was a bust of LBJ.

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

Joementum posted:

Today would be LBJ's 106th birthday. Here he is in 1967 giving the Pope a gift. The gift was a bust of LBJ.



You know, sometimes you just have to lean back, take a moment, and admire balls that large.

MickeyFinn
May 8, 2007
Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia some mark ass bitches

Joementum posted:

Meanwhile, the company run by Andrew Hunt, the Libertarian candidate for Governor of Georgia, has received $38m in federal grants, but it's OK because the market a panel of nerds decides: "It’s not an earmark to a company. It’s not pork,” Hunt said. “Engineers and scientists sit on a panel and decide who gets the award or not."

I couldn't read the whole article, but a lot of that money appears to come from the SBIR/STTR program (link). The funny thing is that the DOE has a mandate to spend X% of its science budget (I dunno the line item name) on the SBIR program. So the size of the money pot available for him to mooch off of is directly proportional to the rest of the "pork" in the DOE science budget. He also got ARRA money in at least one of those grants, literally money being spent for the sake of spending it.

He is miss characterizing the SBIR process. Generally, a program manager contacts researchers that he knows and trusts to get a list of things that would help his program (and sometimes those information requests are forwarded on to the companies likely to apply!). Then he puts together a solicitation based on what they want and companies apply. A set of reviewers, picked by the program manager, review the proposal and return reports to the program manager who then can do whatever he wants with that information. Bad reviews do not assure failure and good reviews do not assure success. The applicant can (and should!) know the scientists who want the work done and the program manager, who may then go soft on reviews or pick his application despite bad/middling reviews. He isn't some faceless company applying to a blindfolded panel of un-biased judges.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

OAquinas posted:

You know, sometimes you just have to lean back, take a moment, and admire balls that large.

That's part of the interesting, and tragic, contradiction of LBJ: all that confidence was him fronting. He was terrified of being perceived as weak, and as the White House tapes reveal, that weakness is what led to his policy of intervention in Vietnam.

Ganon
May 24, 2003
Speaking of LBJ, saw this terrible article earlier. Give Obama some credit; He’s not Carter bad … He’s LBJ horrific

quote:

Johnson was humiliated as vice president by the Kennedys. He eventually got even by calling RFK — within 30 minutes of his brother’s assassination — and asking for the wording of the Oath of Office so he could take it immediately. He also had JFK’s widow stand next to him (in a suit with her husband’s blood splattered on it) while he took that oath. Mr. Obama was humiliated by the Clintons and eventually got even by humiliating Bill in the press and Hillary with Benghazi

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

MickeyFinn posted:

I couldn't read the whole article, but a lot of that money appears to come from the SBIR/STTR program (link). The funny thing is that the DOE has a mandate to spend X% of its science budget (I dunno the line item name) on the SBIR program. So the size of the money pot available for him to mooch off of is directly proportional to the rest of the "pork" in the DOE science budget. He also got ARRA money in at least one of those grants, literally money being spent for the sake of spending it.

He is miss characterizing the SBIR process. Generally, a program manager contacts researchers that he knows and trusts to get a list of things that would help his program (and sometimes those information requests are forwarded on to the companies likely to apply!). Then he puts together a solicitation based on what they want and companies apply. A set of reviewers, picked by the program manager, review the proposal and return reports to the program manager who then can do whatever he wants with that information. Bad reviews do not assure failure and good reviews do not assure success. The applicant can (and should!) know the scientists who want the work done and the program manager, who may then go soft on reviews or pick his application despite bad/middling reviews. He isn't some faceless company applying to a blindfolded panel of un-biased judges.

Cool! Thanks for the added information on the program. One of the fun things about posting here is when people with first hand knowledge of these rather esoteric programs pop up to tell you about things that a newspaper article would never get into.

Winkie01
Nov 28, 2004

I thought it was Obama that humiliated the Clinton's?

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib

I like all the talk about humiliation as if they're film stars taking pictures of each other getting out of limos while drunk and not, you know.

Some of the most powerful people on the planet.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Joementum posted:

Cool! Thanks for the added information on the program. One of the fun things about posting here is when people with first hand knowledge of these rather esoteric programs pop up to tell you about things that a newspaper article would never get into.

You finally learned something here :)

CaptainCarrot
Jun 9, 2010
Pretty sure Jackie wanted to be there; Johnson's supposed desires had little to do with it.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

CaptainCarrot posted:

Pretty sure Jackie wanted to be there; Johnson's supposed desires had little to do with it.

In Caro's book he says that Johnson insisted that Jackie be present, but that she agreed and, when asked whether she wanted to change clothes said, “Let them see what they have done to him.” RFK, on the other hand, definitely hated Johnson for making him listen on the phone.


Aliquid posted:

You finally learned something here :)

I learn stuff here all the time, and in other places, but am often remiss in thanking people for correcting me or sharing their expertise and realize I should be better about that. Related to the quote above, I just learned tonight that Arlen Specter was the person who came up with the magic bullet theory in the Warren Report.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Joementum posted:

Today would be LBJ's 106th birthday. Here he is in 1967 giving the Pope a gift. The gift was a bust of LBJ.



The pope looks like he wants to bust LBJ's head with a Bust of LBJ's head.

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

Ganon posted:

Speaking of LBJ, saw this terrible article earlier. Give Obama some credit; He’s not Carter bad … He’s LBJ horrific

quote:

Mr. Obama was humiliated by the Clintons and eventually got even by humiliating Bill in the press and Hillary with Benghazi

I get the impression that Obama and Bill probably get along just fine; obviously they had a rival view during the 2008 elections but after that Bill seemed totally onboard with doing his best to make poo poo work for Obama.



:allears:

e: vvv Fool, you know not what slumbering terrors you have awakened. You've doomed us all.

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icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Stultus Maximus posted:

Let's be honest: unless you are in the military, [guns] are toys.

Chard
Aug 24, 2010




Phone posted:

Between this and the Cops sound technician getting one to the dome...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this,36131/

‘Active Shooter At Large,’ Reports Endless Background Hum Of Modern American Life

:smith:

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Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!
Young Orc

Joementum posted:

Meanwhile, the company run by Andrew Hunt, the Libertarian candidate for Governor of Georgia, has received $38m in federal grants, but it's OK because the market a panel of nerds decides: "It’s not an earmark to a company. It’s not pork,” Hunt said. “Engineers and scientists sit on a panel and decide who gets the award or not."

Yeah I'm pretty sure it's impossible for a libertarian to admit that any handouts he receives are un-earned. If Ayn Rand could do it for SS, then there's no issues for something as simple as a federal grant.


This is the best picture.

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