Dog controls your LP. Let's play Shadowrun(SNES)!

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Shwqa: Feb 13, 2012

My Norbert dead the way he lived, surrounded by explosions and hails of gun fire. :unsmith:

# ? Sep 16, 2014 01:54

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# ? May 19, 2024 11:50

the holy poopacy: May 16, 2009; hey! check this out; Fun Shoe

Danaru posted:

Yeah, once the final matrix segment is done, everything afterwards is scripted. An hell if I'm letting Norbert get cutscene killed in MY LP. There was also no real in game explaination for the computer suddenly exploding, so I added that bit of narrative so it didn't just come out of nowhere.

You just hosed up the bad guy's supercomputer after returning from their minion's volcano lair, I think the final self-destruct sequence is self explanatory.

# ? Sep 16, 2014 02:09

Nemo2342: Nov 26, 2007; Have A Day; Nap Ghost

DeathChicken posted:

I like to think Jake's exploits here were a result of Dog somehow or another jacking up a guy to absurd heights to do his bidding, then taking it back when all that was done.

That's a pretty fair theory, based on the story written about Jake to set up Shadowrun Returns. The TL;DR version is that after saving the Matrix Jake continues to run, but relies more on his cyberware and his team than his totem (who is not terribly happy about this state of affairs), and it ends up costing him to the point where he can't even use magic to light a cigarette.

# ? Sep 16, 2014 02:31

Nidoking: Jan 27, 2009; I fought the lava, and the lava won.

Jake Armitage is the type of character you might be able to get if you write really well and can create a backstory that your GM can use to justify the character's skills and weave them into the story, particularly if flaws like "has no memory" and "starts with the capacity for lots of skills but is terrible at everything" are roleplayed well. It really helps if you have a cohesive group that can agree on a roleplaying style - I once scrapped a character that was built for roleplaying because the rest of the group ignored everything but stats and missions, and created a replacement character with top stats in everything but intelligence - which technically meant that her skill with grenade launchers should be capped at 3 to start with, but I wrote a backstory to explain why she should be able to spend the extra skill points to bulk up everything to 6. I also gave her some interesting roleplay because screw stats and missions, I wanted to have fun.

Which, I think, means that Jake is the ultimate NPC and the Shadowrunners he hires are the actual PCs in this adventure.

# ? Sep 16, 2014 03:09

Cassa: Jan 29, 2009

This whole LP was awesome. Shadowrun is one of my favourite setting concepts, even if actually playing it never looked that fun.

# ? Sep 16, 2014 03:57

Gidoran: Oct 22, 2013

Cosmic Afro posted:

Aren't initiations very hard to get, as well as very expensive to do? I mean, I'm not too familiar with the actual tabletop rules, but.

It depends. In SR4, Initiation is (3 * newRating) + 10, so 13, 16, 19, etc. You can reduce that with group initiations and ordeals, although certain ordeals can't be repeated/shouldn't be repeated because they gently caress you up majorly. But it is kind of expensive, the average run reward for Karma is supposed to be anywhere from like 3-5 Karma, and runs can take multiple sessions to complete. When I GM I try and give at least a little Karma out at the end of each session, even if it's just for attendance, to keep them from getting pissy.

# ? Sep 16, 2014 04:38

Danaru: Jun 5, 2012; 何 ??

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# ? Sep 16, 2014 04:58

Cosmic Afro: May 23, 2011

That was perfect.

This better means you are doing Shadowrun Returns. I dearly hope that it means so.

# ? Sep 16, 2014 05:17

citybeatnik: Mar 1, 2013; You Are All
WEIRDOS

Cosmic Afro posted:

That was perfect.

This better means you are doing Shadowrun Returns. I dearly hope that it means so.

Yeeeees.

This does remind me that I need to finish playing through Dragonfall. Hrm.

# ? Sep 16, 2014 05:52

FridayNightFights: Feb 17, 2011

citybeatnik posted:

Yeeeees.

This does remind me that I need to finish playing through Dragonfall. Hrm.

The Director's Cut of Dragonfall comes out in two days, I'm waiting for that before finally sitting down and playing it despite having it since release.

Just wanted to echo everyone else and saw thank you for the very enjoyable LP Danaru. I didn't even know there was an SNES version until last year, having grown up on the Genesis version and this let me finally see what it had to offer.

# ? Sep 16, 2014 06:29

SorataYuy: Jul 17, 2014; That... didn't even make sense.

Cosmic Afro posted:

That was perfect.

This better means you are doing Shadowrun Returns. I dearly hope that it means so.

That one might work better as a streamed experience. Because there are so many possible choices that we'd be stopping forever for the democratic process of thread voting.

# ? Sep 16, 2014 06:32

Leinadi: Sep 14, 2009

Awesome LP of one of my favorite games. Thanks!

Would love to see Shadowrun Returns also!

# ? Sep 16, 2014 08:12

mauman: Jul 30, 2014; Whoever's got the biggest whiskers does the talking.

Thank you for doing this lp. You did a great job.

You should also definitely do SR returns next.

FridayNightFights posted:

The Director's Cut of Dragonfall comes out in two days, I'm waiting for that before finally sitting down and playing it despite having it since release.

Just wanted to echo everyone else and saw thank you for the very enjoyable LP Danaru. I didn't even know there was an SNES version until last year, having grown up on the Genesis version and this let me finally see what it had to offer.

I was unaware of the existence of this marvelous news. I really need to check my email more often. Thanks for giving me something to look forward to in the days ahead.

Though now I have decide if I want to play Dragonfall again (with the new improvements) or play Wasteland 2 now that its FINALLY coming out.

Edit: I just watched the trailer. I think I'm going to cry tears of pure joy now. Holy crap, I have a lot of sci-fi rpgs to play this week.

mauman fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Sep 16, 2014

# ? Sep 16, 2014 08:44

Kaboom Dragoon: May 7, 2010; The greatest of feasts

SorataYuy posted:

That one might work better as a streamed experience. Because there are so many possible choices that we'd be stopping forever for the democratic process of thread voting.

Not every thread has to be democratic, y'know. Something like SR, I'd have, at most, a vote at the start deciding whether we want to be a good guy, bad guy, smug rear end in a top hat, etc. That, or choose the path the LPer deems most interesting. It's not like the game doesn't lend itself to multiple playthroughs/threads.

# ? Sep 16, 2014 10:07

SorataYuy: Jul 17, 2014; That... didn't even make sense.

Kaboom Dragoon posted:

Not every thread has to be democratic, y'know. Something like SR, I'd have, at most, a vote at the start deciding whether we want to be a good guy, bad guy, smug rear end in a top hat, etc. That, or choose the path the LPer deems most interesting. It's not like the game doesn't lend itself to multiple playthroughs/threads.

Actually, Return kind of doesn't. The campaign is designed in such a way that it doesn't really matter too much what archetype you pick, the experience ends up being very similar for most of the playing time. Dragonfall, on the other hand, managed to avoid these issues.

# ? Sep 16, 2014 21:30

Robindaybird: Aug 21, 2007; Neat. Sweet. Petite.

yeah, Dead Man's Switch had the same Issue as NWN1's original campaign had: it ended up being more of a tech demo and gets badly outclassed by the expansion pack.

# ? Sep 17, 2014 00:54

Or is it Sputnik: Aug 22, 2009; Oh, Ho-oh oh oh, oh whoa oh oh oh
I'll get 'em caught, show Oak what I've got

Shadowrun Returns is 75% off on Steam. Now, what everyone says about SR is true - Dragonfall is way better and with the coming Director's Cut you don't even need the base game to play Dragonfall, but if you're a fan you might want to throw in. It's only a few bucks.

# ? Sep 17, 2014 09:58

venom3053000: Dec 29, 2013

this gonna be good :munch:

# ? Sep 17, 2014 10:27

idonotlikepeas: May 29, 2010; This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!

Dead Man's Switch got updated a little bit with the expansion, too, so at least you can do crazy things like "save your game".

# ? Sep 17, 2014 16:59

Chokes McGee: Aug 7, 2008; This is Urotsuki.

Norbert.

If you do SR, make your runner Norbert.

Norbert

# ? Sep 17, 2014 21:48

something: Aug 1, 2011; Have you ever seen
The most pure look of delight
On a Babby's face?; Pillbug

Ugh. I bought shadowrun returns when it first came out and I only got 3/4 through the campaign before I gave up on it. I wanted to like it, I REALLY did...I don't think I can buy the expansion on the hopes it *might* be better.

# ? Sep 17, 2014 23:26

Hello Sailor: May 3, 2006; we're all mad here

something posted:

Ugh. I bought shadowrun returns when it first came out and I only got 3/4 through the campaign before I gave up on it. I wanted to like it, I REALLY did...I don't think I can buy the expansion on the hopes it *might* be better.

Maybe you're seeing reviews I'm not, but the general consensus appears to be that the expansion is definitely better.

# ? Sep 17, 2014 23:29

Robindaybird: Aug 21, 2007; Neat. Sweet. Petite.

something posted:

Ugh. I bought shadowrun returns when it first came out and I only got 3/4 through the campaign before I gave up on it. I wanted to like it, I REALLY did...I don't think I can buy the expansion on the hopes it *might* be better.

Seriously Dragonfall is 100x better. While you still can't gently caress with your party member's equipment, they still upgrade their equipment over time, you're not as heavily railroaded (You get to decide when you go on a mission, how to handle the missions and how many missions you want to take on). The main runners you'll be working with actually have character and generally you're given enough breathing room to make any type of runner.

I went with an ultra charismatic mage who could talk a dragon into letting him borrow a share of his hoard, but a trigger-happy rigger or double-dealing sammy still have things to do and can still beat the game.

# ? Sep 17, 2014 23:49

SorataYuy: Jul 17, 2014; That... didn't even make sense.

Robindaybird posted:

Seriously Dragonfall is 100x better. While you still can't gently caress with your party member's equipment, they still upgrade their equipment over time, you're not as heavily railroaded (You get to decide when you go on a mission, how to handle the missions and how many missions you want to take on). The main runners you'll be working with actually have character and generally you're given enough breathing room to make any type of runner.

I went with an ultra charismatic mage who could talk a dragon into letting him borrow a share of his hoard, but a trigger-happy rigger or double-dealing sammy still have things to do and can still beat the game.

You can actually give them items, at least. I've tended to load them all up with as many Med Kits as money can buy. Makes life much less painful (since magical healing is still limited to "heal the most recent wound".)

# ? Sep 17, 2014 23:56

Cape Cod Crab Chip: Feb 20, 2011; Now you don't have to suck meat from an exoskeleton!

Echoing the sentiment that you should really give Dragonfall a shot even if you were unimpressed with the original campaign. I was actually in the exact same boat; I quit playing DMS roughly two thirds of the way because something about it just felt... off. Still decided to give Dragonfall a shot because I liked the SNES Shadowrun so much I still wanted that Shadowrun itch scratched and Dragonfall is just the ticket.

Also echoing that the LP was all kinds of great and I hope you do Dead Man's Switch too, as I AM curious as to how it ends and seeing it done with your characterizations would be a sweet bonus.

# ? Sep 18, 2014 00:05

Robindaybird: Aug 21, 2007; Neat. Sweet. Petite.

SorataYuy posted:

You can actually give them items, at least. I've tended to load them all up with as many Med Kits as money can buy. Makes life much less painful (since magical healing is still limited to "heal the most recent wound".)

Yeah items, equipment is the sticking point. I can see their logic of not letting players 'rob and dump' runners, especially, but it is frustrating. especially as Blitz's deck and his programs don't update so he's not up to par late game

# ? Sep 18, 2014 00:21

Koorisch: Mar 29, 2009

In SR:DMS and DF I usually tend to make my character a Decker just to avoid the terrible NPC deckers, they're not very useful. :v:

# ? Sep 18, 2014 00:32

RudeCat: Aug 7, 2012; The rudest cat for the rudest jobs

On the 18th Dragonfall becomes standalone as previously mentioned and gets some added stuff to it, of particular interest is the team customization.

Dead Man's Switch feels much more like a solo game, you have the other runners but they're almost just afterthoughts and really stand in the background of your story. I've described it to people as a much more noir game than Dragonfall, which is very much more a party based game and the director's cut is only going to add to that.

Steam posted:

Five All-New Missions: The Director�s Cut features five all-new original missions, including three related directly to the personal stories of your team members. These missions take you to previously-unseen locales - both within the Flux State and beyond - where you�ll have to face challenging enemies and make tough choices in order to help your team members prevail.

Revamped Combat System: The Dragonfall combat system has received a major overhaul. An all-new armor system adds another tactical layer to the experience, while refined cover and damage mechanics emphasize the importance of battlefield positioning. Complementing these improvements is an upgraded AI system which reacts more intelligently and accurately to your actions.

Redesigned Interface: The Dragonfall in-game interface has also been rebuilt. Spells, items and abilities are now much easier to access, while improved combat feedback allows you to fully understand the tactical situation in any given encounter.

Customize Your Team: Guide your team members as they progress in each of their unique roles, choosing between different focus options to grant them new items and abilities. In addition, if you don�t like a team member�s default spell, item or weapon loadout, you can now customize what they bring on each mission.

# ? Sep 18, 2014 00:43

Robindaybird: Aug 21, 2007; Neat. Sweet. Petite.

Steam posted:

Customize Your Team: Guide your team members as they progress in each of their unique roles, choosing between different focus options to grant them new items and abilities. In addition, if you don�t like a team member�s default spell, item or weapon loadout, you can now customize what they bring on each mission.

gently caress.

This is what the game needed.

# ? Sep 18, 2014 01:01

Tibbeh: Apr 5, 2010

Looks like its out already. Check your steam libraries guys

# ? Sep 18, 2014 01:19

citybeatnik: Mar 1, 2013; You Are All
WEIRDOS

Dragonfall gave us an aging punk-rock Shaman with the overwhelming urge to headbutt a Dragon as one of your fellow runners.

It is wonderful. :allears:

# ? Sep 18, 2014 01:44

RudeCat: Aug 7, 2012; The rudest cat for the rudest jobs

Seems Hairbrained Schemes released it early, at least for people who already owned the DLC.

# ? Sep 18, 2014 01:48

Rockopolis: Dec 21, 2012; I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird

Wow, awesome LP.
Now you need to play the Shadowrun Returns mod version for comparison, haha. Assuming that project hasn't flamed out, anyway.

# ? Sep 18, 2014 03:17

mauman: Jul 30, 2014; Whoever's got the biggest whiskers does the talking.

Rockopolis posted:

Wow, awesome LP.
Now you need to play the Shadowrun Returns mod version for comparison, haha. Assuming that project hasn't flamed out, anyway.

It's still going, it even got a massive update recently.

# ? Sep 18, 2014 03:24

Chokes McGee: Aug 7, 2008; This is Urotsuki.

citybeatnik posted:

Dragonfall gave us an aging punk-rock Shaman with the overwhelming urge to headbutt a Dragon as one of your fellow runners.

It is wonderful.

All of your crew have incredibly interesting and distinct personalities, so make sure to talk to all of them whenever you get a chance, even if they tell you to go gently caress yourself when you do.

# ? Sep 18, 2014 04:17