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fool_of_sound posted:dont go on cruises you retard the internet connection is terrible! and big beefy dudes wanna beat me up in front of their hot girlfriends
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theflyingexecutive posted:the internet connection is terrible! and big beefy dudes wanna beat me up in front of their hot girlfriends please stop doxxing me
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theflyingorc posted:they're pretty ok, people are super weird about hating on them because of some weird vacation supremacy thing i would theorize it's because cruises are like all-inclusive resorts but even moreso, where you're kept inside a carefully-maintained container and not exposed to the real world but that's just a guess 
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prefect posted:i would theorize it's because cruises are like all-inclusive resorts but even moreso, where you're kept inside a carefully-maintained container and not exposed to the real world dont go on cruises
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FMguru posted:david foster wallace went on a cruise and later killed him self the guy from the office? also re: cruisechat, I'll accept "don't only go on cruises", see the world in a raw and unprepared way, but cruises own and I'm sorry you don't know how to enjoy yourselves.
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RZA Encryption posted:also re: cruisechat, I'll accept "don't only go on cruises", see the world in a raw and unprepared way, but cruises own and I'm sorry you don't know how to enjoy yourselves.
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what's the reason for people being turned down for blood donations if they were in Europe prior to 1996? is it some residual disease remnant they're afraid of or something O- club 
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bucketmouse posted:what's the reason for people being turned down for blood donations if they were in Europe prior to 1996? is it some residual disease remnant they're afraid of or something people posted something about madcow so probably that i'm surprised gay posers are having trouble donating blood considering you need to have gay sex to be excluded.
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bucketmouse posted:what's the reason for people being turned down for blood donations if they were in Europe prior to 1996? is it some residual disease remnant they're afraid of or something no mad cow in the US and no way to test for prion diseases so they just exclude everyone from an area with mad cow disease before certain controls were put in
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last i heard, the fda loosened feed restrictions to the point that america is just begging for a mad cow outbreak at this point
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it's against international treaty to issue protectionist laws on imports of items as it's a violation of free trade. the year after this became a thing suddenly everyone has a pressing requirement to block import of whatever happened to keep their consistency's markets propped up on health grounds. there i just explained why mad cow is still a thing you're welcome
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Sep 17, 2014 19:04
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theflyingorc posted:
gb2 freep
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Sep 17, 2014 19:20
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A Pinball Wizard posted:haha yeah all those filthy queers are just so promiscuous there's no way they could not have hiv. furthermore straight people cant get hiv and this is deffo not a control that was put in place as a first line defense back when noone knew anything about hiv except hemophiliacs were dying left and right from it *scans own post* hmmm...it seems that nothing in my post was specifically about homosexuals, but rather that saying "i know im fine" is a really bad reason to lie on these things
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theflyingorc posted:lol i assume you're making a joke, but in case anyone else is really stupid, don't do this. the list of people who are sure they definitely don't have HIV is "basically anybody not named Magic Johnson", which includes a really large number of people who totes have HIV by this logic no one should donate blood ever
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theflyingorc posted:*scans own post* the thing about gays never being allowed to donate solely comes from the aids stuff in the 80s when testing was barely possible and lots of people were still doing risky stuff. if some dudes have been faithful to each other for like 15 years they're probably not gonna have aids just magically turn up finally, at least not more likely to do so than some sleazy dude who picks up truck stop tramps every weekend and is not barred
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Nintendo Kid posted:by this logic no one should donate blood ever no, you shouldn't lie to medical professionals, because "i know what's REALLY going down" is a bad rationale if you feel that some of the questions are discriminatory, you can do work to try and change those questions, but dont be a dingus Nintendo Kid posted:at least not more likely to do so than some sleazy dude who picks up truck stop tramps every weekend and is not barred theflyingorc fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Sep 17, 2014 |
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theflyingorc posted:but dont be a dingus pls take your own advice Nintendo Kid posted:if some dudes have been faithful to each other for like 15 years they're probably not gonna have aids just magically turn up finally, at least not more likely to do so than some sleazy dude who picks up truck stop tramps every weekend and is not barred fishmech was right
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theflyingorc posted:no, you shouldn't lie to medical professionals, because "i know what's REALLY going down" is a bad rationale actually you should, about being gay, because you are aware if you're doing the other things that put you in a high risk category. there is no moral imperative to comply with questions that only are outdatde, but the red cross is aware is outdated, wants to change, but can't because some old codgers at the department of health still refuse to approve it due to politics. but having sex with random chicks not for money is not actually blocked by any of the questions.
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A Pinball Wizard posted:haha yeah all those filthy queers are just so promiscuous there's no way they could not have hiv. furthermore straight people cant get hiv and this is deffo not a control that was put in place as a first line defense back when noone knew anything about hiv except hemophiliacs were dying left and right from it msm accounts for like 4x new hiv infections than all other sources combined aids.gov posted:Although MSM represent about 4% of the male population in the United States4, in 2010, MSM accounted for 78% of new HIV infections among males and 63% of all new infections2. MSM accounted for 52% of all people living with HIV infection in 2009, the most recent year these data are available1.
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A Pinball Wizard posted:pls take your own advice right now, there are people giving blood who have done actual high-risk things like sharing needles and thinking "im fine so its ok to do this", the attitude is really bad regardless of whether or not the qualification is valid edit: ^^^that's actually higher than I expected. The whole point of all the questions is to act on populations, and homosexuals are an at-risk group. as long as you don't attach a moral component to it, it's exactly as unreasonable as "people who lived in england for too long". if you're a vegetarian who lived outside of affected areas you're basically 0 threat for mad cow, but they're going to pass on you because the point is to carve out risk factors quickly, not to make sure every person who can give blood is eligible theflyingorc fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Sep 17, 2014 |
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theflyingorc posted:oh no, i am so sorry that i do not advocate lying to medical professionals it is still regarded as unnecessary by medical science, dude, what don't you get. it's solidly considered an out of date relic that doesn't belong in modern blood quality control. the united states still bans people permanently for being a man who has had sex with a man anytime since 1977. that's just outdated. many other countries like canada and the uk have switched to deferring people for only 1 year after having sex, and seen no increase in aids blood getting in. mexico spain and poland all have no deferment for having sex with men and again do not experience any problems why are you defending a known-outdated restriction
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Nintendo Kid posted:the united states still bans people permanently for being a man smash the matriachy
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reminder that a straight person who has exchanged drugs or money for sex even once is ALSO just as barred as filthy queermos. you are not smarter than the people who decide how to screen blood. theflyingorc posted:no, you shouldn't lie to medical professionals, because "i know what's REALLY going down" is a bad rationale
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buttfucking, blood, and bitcoins
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Nintendo Kid posted:why are you defending a known-outdated restriction
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A Pinball Wizard posted:haha yeah all those filthy queers are just so promiscuous there's no way they could not have hiv. furthermore straight people cant get hiv and this is deffo not a control that was put in place as a first line defense back when noone knew anything about hiv except hemophiliacs were dying left and right from it Last time I donated blood (well, platelets, for my uncle's surgery) the fifth question was "are you a homosexual?". Then the tenth one was "are you gay?". Then "have you had sex with a member of the same sex?" and so on. Seriously, this is not 1912.
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trucutru posted:Last time I donated blood (well, platelets, for my uncle's surgery) the fifth question was "are you a homosexual?". Then the tenth one was "are you gay?". Then "have you had sex with a member of the same sex?" and so on. Seriously, this is not 1912.
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trucutru posted:Last time I donated blood (well, platelets, for my uncle's surgery) the fifth question was "are you a homosexual?". Then the tenth one was "are you gay?". Then "have you had sex with a member of the same sex?" and so on. Seriously, this is not 1912. fwiw as recently as last week (red cross in california usa) this isn't true. it asks you if you as a male have had sexual contact with another male even once, and that's it. it doesn't ask if you're gay, and doesn't ask if you're a homo.
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"have you ever paid for sex? have you ever paid for sex... in bitcoins?"
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Dr. Honked posted:"have you ever paid for sex? have you ever paid for sex... in bitcoins?" who tried to set up a bitcoin prostitute service one of the devs, right
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Same Great Paste posted:fwiw as recently as last week (red cross in california usa) this isn't true. it asks you if you as a male have had sexual contact with another male even once, and that's it. it doesn't ask if you're gay, and doesn't ask if you're a homo. "are you gay" "are you a homosexual" "are you a fruit" "are you sure you're not a little light in the loafers" "do you now or have you ever owned a liza minelli album" somebody with actual comedy skill could make a funny skit out of that
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Dr. Honked posted:"have you ever paid for sex? have you ever paid for sex... in bitcoins?" he gave me chlamydia, but it is important that i can't do a chargeback hahaha somewhere out there a bitcoiner: 1. thinks bitcoins are great for prostitutes because you can't use a credit card with hookers 2. has tried to pay for sex with bitcoins and spent forever explaining it to a prostitute
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yeah homophobia is p hilarious
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MORE CURLY FRIES posted:yeah homophobia is p hilarious i'm sorry; i didn't mean to give offense. you have my apologies
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Same Great Paste posted:reminder that a straight person who has exchanged drugs or money for sex even once is ALSO just as barred as filthy queermos. the people who decide to screen blood have declared that at most a 1 year deferral is reasonable, and really it should be no deferral since the other questions on the surveys already determine risky behaviors well enough. they're not allowed to go by this due to political shitlordry theflyingorc posted:because, as I've stated multiple times, it doesn't have to be perfect before saying "it is more important to not lie when donating blood than it is for part of it to be unjust" it doesn't have to be perfect, it just doesn't have to be proven wrong by medical science and the ongoing experiences of multple countries. it has been found to be utterly useless.
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Nintendo Kid posted:the people who decide to screen blood have declared that at most a 1 year deferral is reasonable, and really it should be no deferral since the other questions on the surveys already determine risky behaviors well enough. still don't lie on the stupid thing, or at the very least don't tell other people that you did so, because it undermines the whole process for very, very little gain. congrats, youre winning at points that dont have any effect on my stated position
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theflyingorc posted:congrats, youre winning at points that dont have any effect on my stated position thats our 
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