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Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax

Neurolimal posted:

If someone finds out that a game or movie or show I own was made by a prominent pedophile, then I'd happily remove it and tell people not to buy it and give that person money/money to people who would give that person money. The same stance I have with Roman Polanski

Nobody cares. Roman Polaski doesn't care. Roman Polaski's victims don't care. Literally no one cares what you do because, on the grand scale people like Polaski operate, you are nothing.

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Amgard
Dec 28, 2006

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/18/The-emails-that-prove-video-games-journalism-must-be-reformed

More emails that prove nothing, but its like to keep this whole thing kindling nicely through the end of the week.

Also I loving hate how this guy writes.

quote:

If someone finds out that a game or movie or show I own was made by a prominent pedophile, then I'd happily remove it and tell people not to buy it and give that person money/money to people who would give that person money. The same stance I have with Roman Polanski

Does this apply to BEFORE he committed his crimes, or merely after? I want to know because I'm a big fan of his movies for reasons utterly unrelated to whom he is or what he does that has no impact on the movies he makes (which I note are not solely the result of him and him alone)

I want to know if I'm a pedophile enabler

Kyrie eleison
Jan 26, 2013

by Ralp
everyone who plays games is a gamer without exception

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Nebulon Gate posted:

Okay, seriously: he drew it of a 16-year-old anime girl, looking at this Newgrounds game. Their youngest character is like, 8.


wow.

quote:

Does this apply to BEFORE he committed his crimes, or merely after? I want to know because I'm a big fan of his movies for reasons utterly unrelated to whom he is or what he does that has no impact on the movies he makes (which I note are not solely the result of him and him alone)

if you can't bring yourself to completely boycott his films, then at least torrent them

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe

Neurolimal posted:

Yes, a lot of famous artists have drawn questionable poo poo, there's an enormous difference from people who are famous doing that in their spare time, and literally hiring someone who draws awful poo poo for a living specifically because they drew porn of your youngest character.

If someone finds out that a game or movie or show I own was made by a prominent pedophile, then I'd happily remove it and tell people not to buy it and give that person money/money to people who would give that person money. The same stance I have with Roman Polanski


do you think this is worse or better than defending pedophiles because they have worked with your drinking buddies?

Forget it Neuro, it's Chinatown

Tubgirl Cosplay
Jan 10, 2011

by Ion Helmet
I can understand clearly what some fatbeard means when he's raving about 'fake gamer girls' but not some Kotaku clickbait using the exact same words because I have been dropped on my head nonstop since the day I was born giev me mario kart

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax

Amgard posted:

More emails that prove nothing, but its like to keep this whole thing kindling nicely through the end of the week.

It proves the fact that gaming journalists are retarded goons who think being part of the "press" imparts them with a superior moral authority.

But we kinda already knew that so.. meh.

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

Phoon posted:

nah it gets used correctly on maniacs but some people are using it as the new pc gone mad where anything they don't like is the fault of sjw cabals and feminazis

I disagree with this, there are a lot of shitheads on reddit and i argue on there all the time about racism and police brutality and i've never been called an SJW. An SJW to me is someone who calls out injustice in really bad faith and is easily debunked without much effort.


Spacedad posted:

That's nice but you're not disagreeing that SJW is a derogatory label that gets slapped to people rather than something they actually call themselves though, which was the point of my post you're replying to.


Well those people need a derogatory label of some sort. They're loving imbeciles.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Kyrie eleison posted:

everyone who plays games is a gamer without exception

Soccer moms with a wii balance board are now gamers. Gotcha.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Mister Fister posted:

Well those people need a derogatory label of some sort. They're loving imbeciles.

you could always use their own label, since they're usually already pretty awful already

"otherkin are loving stupid"

"headspace shippers are loving stupid"

"trans-italians are loving stupid"

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Mister Fister posted:


Well those people need a derogatory label of some sort. They're loving imbeciles.

And again, the problem is the label has no meaning and shuts down even rational discussion when it's being applied to a tourettes-level of broadness.

Big Ol Marsh Pussy
Jan 7, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NQlOfXyrUY

Nebulon Gate
Feb 23, 2013

Dude I seriously had no idea what the gently caress you were going on about until now. If you could give me access to your hard drive and see the Zone pedo pictures you have that I'm not privy to, I'd be able to form a better opinion TIA

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Nebulon Gate posted:

Dude I seriously had no idea what the gently caress you were going on about until now. If you could give me access to your hard drive and see the Zone pedo pictures you have that I'm not privy to, I'd be able to form a better opinion TIA

you could also just google him/her, like I did when I originally found out, no need to intensely study his/her creepy porn

Sagabal
Apr 24, 2010

identiTY POLITICS

Cyberball 2072
Feb 17, 2014

by Lowtax

Spacedad posted:

Soccer moms with a wii balance board are now gamers. Gotcha.

Yes, really. They are a person who plays a video game thus gamer. Person who paints=painter, at the wheel of a car=driver, baking a cake=baker, playing a game=gamer.

Fansy
Feb 26, 2013

I GAVE LOWTAX COOKIE MONEY TO CHANGE YOUR STUPID AVATAR GO FUCK YOURSELF DUDE
Grimey Drawer

Kyrie eleison posted:

sjw is a pejorative term for leftist activist, of which there are many in this thread. anyone who strongly opposes gamergate is an sjw.



I don't see why it's a pejorative. Is social justice a bad thing?

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Cyberball 2072 posted:

Yes, really. They are a person who plays a video game thus gamer. Person who paints=painter, at the wheel of a car=driver, baking a cake=baker, playing a game=gamer.

the diff between all of those is that the gamer produces nothing of value

and before you ask yes, i'd consider someone who's defining trait is "reader" loving stupid as well.

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Here's how GamerGate breaks down:

On the left:

-Gamers
-Muckrakers and their publishing houses
-Liberals
-Actual feminists
-Sanity
-Independent game developers

On the right:

-SJW's
-Game journalists and their publishing houses
-Conservatives
-Lipstick feminists
-Corruption
-"Independent game developers"

In the middle:

-Breitbart trying to expose the right to gain favor with the left
-The billion-dollar video game manufacturing industry which will be unaffected by all of this

Nebulon Gate
Feb 23, 2013

Neurolimal posted:

you could also just google him/her, like I did when I originally found out, no need to intensely study his/her creepy porn

I typed in "Zone Skullgirls", clicked the first link, and then saw the name "Filia".

It's also animation. Man you're really scared of being exposed to this type of things. Have some repressed tendencies, bud?

Cyberball 2072
Feb 17, 2014

by Lowtax

Fansy posted:

I don't see why it's a pejorative. Is social justice a bad thing?

Your avatar is problematic, pictures of babies trigger me. Change it now or face harassment.

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax

Spacedad posted:

And again, the problem is the label has no meaning and shuts down even rational discussion when it's being applied to a tourettes-level of broadness.


Tourettes is a very real and horrifying disease. Good job making light of it to prove your stupid point about how obnoxious SJWs are, you inconsiderate piece of poo poo.

The Landstander
Apr 20, 2004

I stand on land.
Hey what did everyone think of #CancelColbert

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

EugeneJ posted:

-Breitbart trying to expose the right to gain favor with the left

Daynab
Aug 5, 2008

Kyrie eleison posted:

everyone who plays games is a gamer without exception

Something I fully agree with, but gamergaters are the first ones to say "Anita Sarkeesian isn't a real gamer!" or post hundreds of comments on articles showing nearly 50% of gamers are women but they don't count because they play wii or mobile games.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Cyberball 2072 posted:

Yes, really. They are a person who plays a video game thus gamer. Person who paints=painter, at the wheel of a car=driver, baking a cake=baker, playing a game=gamer.

Then for the purposes of differentiation of demographics, we need to identify 'core gamers' and 'casual gamers.' The 'gamers' being referred to in the 'gamers are dead' thing is more about the hardcore lifestyle gamers, which no longer have the influence they used to.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
eugenej you are like seriously a crazy person

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax

The Landstander posted:

Hey what did everyone think of #CancelColbert

Me rikey wery much.

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

The Landstander posted:

Hey what did everyone think of #CancelColbert

He was bad and should get raped forever and then holocausted. #everyoneisgay #especiallyme

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
"looking at her porn" and "googling her" are different words, you should consider using the other one in the future

Nebulon Gate posted:

It's also animation. Man you're really scared of being exposed to this type of things. Have some repressed tendencies, bud?

or, maybe I have a lot of cousins, nephews, general relatives who are kids, as well as wanting a family eventually (a gay who would like to settle down, crazy) and I'd like them to be able to play games and chat in popular forums about games without running into creepy fucks who draw pedophilia, creepy fucks who jack off to children (drawn or real), and creepy fucks who defend pedophiles because they know his friends.

Boycotting Reddit and 4chan won't do much, the least I can do is not buy games that involve any of those people, and tell other people not to as well

speaking of, it would be cool for you to tell me what games you've worked on, because, uh, reasons.

Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Sep 19, 2014

Fansy
Feb 26, 2013

I GAVE LOWTAX COOKIE MONEY TO CHANGE YOUR STUPID AVATAR GO FUCK YOURSELF DUDE
Grimey Drawer

Cyberball 2072 posted:

Your avatar is problematic, pictures of babies trigger me. Change it now or face harassment.

Is that social justice?

BottledBodhisvata
Jul 26, 2013

by Lowtax
Woody Allen is a really good writer.

Daynab
Aug 5, 2008

Spacedad posted:

Then for the purposes of differentiation of demographics, we need to identify 'core gamers' and 'casual gamers.' The 'gamers' being referred to in the 'gamers are dead' thing is more about the hardcore lifestyle gamers, which no longer have the influence they used to.

People who those "gamers are dead" articles targeted are the ones who decide who is a "true gamer" and who isn't. The articles' points was that everybody is a gamer so the identity is meaningless. Don't fall into the trap of separating them like GG tries.

Amgard
Dec 28, 2006

quote:

if you can't bring yourself to completely boycott his films, then at least torrent them

I can't even bring myself to slightly boycott his films. I like some of his movies and I believe you can absolutely remove the creator from the creation because I'm not a moralist simpleton who can only understand the world through the lens of "badwrong". I'm not defending Polanski's actions (I think the rush of celebrities who tried to defend him are idiots), but it's silly to assume that boycotting his works makes any statement on what he did that can't be solved by...I dunno, putting him away?

Macbeth I would boycott though. What a lazy rear end film

Cyberball 2072
Feb 17, 2014

by Lowtax

Spacedad posted:

And again, the problem is the label has no meaning and shuts down even rational discussion when it's being applied to a tourettes-level of broadness.

I bet your boss wouldn't want to employ a person who openly insults the disabled such as those with Tourette's, stop marginalizing my sickness, do you think I asked for this you shitlord? It's not my job to teach you about Tourette's sensitivity you massive loving rear end in a top hat.

Can I get a retweeet? Signal boost this prick off the Internet!

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

Spacedad posted:

And again, the problem is the label has no meaning and shuts down even rational discussion when it's being applied to a tourettes-level of broadness.

Hey, you know what, just call out the use of "SJW" when it's misapplied. And i personally don't think it happens as often as you do. The general meaning that most people associate with it is against really loud obnoxious immature idiots who argue about justice in really bad faith. I was kind of hoping that poo poo would stick to Tumblr though, apparently it's infected other communities.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

If this drives Ben kuchera insane it'll be worth it

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Irish Joe posted:

Tourettes is a very real and horrifying disease. Good job making light of it to prove your stupid point about how obnoxious SJWs are, you inconsiderate piece of poo poo.

I hope you plan on going through this thread with a fine tooth comb and calling out everyone who used that word and stuff like 'retard' now.

Phoon
Apr 23, 2010

Mister Fister posted:

I disagree with this, there are a lot of shitheads on reddit and i argue on there all the time about racism and police brutality and i've never been called an SJW. An SJW to me is someone who calls out injustice in really bad faith and is easily debunked without much effort

in gbs lately i keep seeing people accusing the people they disagree with of being triggered and literally shaking and its never funny its just boring, thats what im thinking of, really lovely sjw jokes to dismiss opposing views

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Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

EugeneJ posted:

Here's how GamerGate breaks down:

On the left:

-Gamers
-Muckrakers and their publishing houses
-Liberals
-Actual feminists
-Sanity
-Independent game developers

On the right:

-SJW's
-Game journalists and their publishing houses
-Conservatives
-Lipstick feminists
-Corruption
-"Independent game developers"

In the middle:

-Breitbart trying to expose the right to gain favor with the left
-The billion-dollar video game manufacturing industry which will be unaffected by all of this

Breitbart... Is trying to expose... Conservatives...?

uhhhhhhhh

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