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Bayley's super adorable and will wreck your poo poo it's awesome.
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I couldn't finish watching this weeks RAW, and same with last weeks. I am not actively hating it or anything, it is just becoming hard to watch - which really sucks
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Sep 19, 2014 06:23
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They have to have Bayley wrestle in those tights because if she wore trunks no one would be able to do anything BUT get behind her. [/king]
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Sep 19, 2014 06:30
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seriously though she's got a gimmick that it would be creepy to sexualize. bayley is girl john cena.
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Sep 19, 2014 06:31
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Bayley is fun to watch, a good wrestler and her entrance at Takeover 2 was loving amazing. Her gimmick's a little bit out there but she only needs 15 seconds here and there to be a dopey fangirl and she might actually start to get over organically. And then when she comes out for her first match with the streamers and inflatable dancing tube men people are gonna notice because that's so different that it demands attention.
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Sep 19, 2014 06:40
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Bayley is cute
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Sep 19, 2014 07:49
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Bayley looks perma-stoned. I don't have any feelings about her being attractive or unattractive but she looks constantly high in a James Franco way and it irritates me.
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Sep 19, 2014 08:46
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Bayley's more attractive than Eva Marie in my opinion, and she has a much better gimmick and also can wrestle.
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Sep 19, 2014 09:08
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It's nice that there's a woman wrestler who isn't pigeonholed into either being T&A or a Monster. Have there been that many in the WWE before now? Either way I really like Bayley; her match with Charlotte was just great.
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Sep 19, 2014 09:24
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was watching the womens match on NXT and you can seriously hear them calling every single move wtf.
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Sep 19, 2014 09:41
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According to Austin's last podcast the ring mics are so sensitive these days that it's basically unavoidable unless wrestlers whisper everything.
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Sep 19, 2014 09:46
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I still never hear anything like that when I'm watching. Is this down to people wearing headphones or something?
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Sep 19, 2014 09:48
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Jerusalem posted:I still never hear anything like that when I'm watching. Is this down to people wearing headphones or something? I can't hear exactly what they're saying, but it's easy to tell when they're doing it, I can hear the speech. Just on tv.
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Sep 19, 2014 10:06
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Can't say I ever hear anything more than maybe once every 2-3 shows, either. I rewatched Takeover 2 and didn't notice a thing.St Evan Echoes posted:It's nice that there's a woman wrestler who isn't pigeonholed into either being T&A or a Monster. Have there been that many in the WWE before now?
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pressedbunny posted:Alundra Blayze. Beth, Victoria and Jazz all got sorta halfway there.
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Grant DaNasty posted:I will never not be disturbed by Meltzer's lack of earlobes. Optimist with doubt posted:What's wrong with connected earlobes? Wanna fight about it? TheJoker138 posted:I also have connected earlobes. Runs on my moms side of the family. Me too. Connected earlobe gang is gonna kick your rear end. Angular Landbury posted:Bayley looks perma-stoned. I don't have any feelings about her being attractive or unattractive but she looks constantly high in a James Franco way and it irritates me. James Franco is perma-stoned. Dean Ambrose looks that way in most of his interviews too. sleepingbuddha fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Sep 19, 2014 12:59
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achillesforever6 posted:Did they really wreck poo poo, all I remember is the two of them looking like chumps to Kelly Kelly all the time losing rollup after rollup Maybe I am just remembering them differently. I thought one of them won the Divas Title at the time they were together? I remember the bullshit losses to Kelly Kelly including the one in Beth's hometown where the entire crowd was itching to see her take the title. I also remember Nattie having a really cool jacket that looked pretty badass.
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Sep 19, 2014 13:01
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I think WWE could really use a Diva that is not considered classically beautiful. There is a big movement right now about people accepting themselves as they are, faults in all. Every time WWE does a storyline where a female heel makes fun of a face's appearance, its really hard to buy because you look at the face once and you left thinking huh? Hell the last time they did it was with Laycool calling Mickie James fat. Very few are going to identify with that. If they had a diva who wasn't up to beauty standards, and wrecked people's poo poo, lots of women would identify with that.
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Sep 19, 2014 13:02
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Gnome Enthusiast posted:According to Austin's last podcast the ring mics are so sensitive these days that it's basically unavoidable unless wrestlers whisper everything.
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Sep 19, 2014 13:23
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Sionistic posted:I think WWE could really use a Diva that is not considered classically beautiful. There is a big movement right now about people accepting themselves as they are, faults in all. Every time WWE does a storyline where a female heel makes fun of a face's appearance, its really hard to buy because you look at the face once and you left thinking huh? Hell the last time they did it was with Laycool calling Mickie James fat. Very few are going to identify with that. If they had a diva who wasn't up to beauty standards, and wrecked people's poo poo, lots of women would identify with that. This would be really nice and I love the idea- but being WWE it'll never happen (at least while Vince and Dunn are around). 
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Sep 19, 2014 13:37
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Jerusalem posted:I still never hear anything like that when I'm watching. Is this down to people wearing headphones or something?
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Sep 19, 2014 13:48
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Watching Bayley give out headbands to little girls at ringside, I really don't understand why the target audience of the women's division isn't 10 year old girls instead of... Well, I actually don't know who they're currently trying to appeal to.
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Sep 19, 2014 14:24
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P-Mack posted:Watching Bayley give out headbands to little girls at ringside, I really don't understand why the target audience of the women's division isn't 10 year old girls instead of... Well, I actually don't know who they're currently trying to appeal to. 
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Sep 19, 2014 14:26
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so the divas division is just kevin dunn's jack off material?
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Sep 19, 2014 14:32
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And Vince's.
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Sep 19, 2014 14:34
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P-Mack posted:Watching Bayley give out headbands to little girls at ringside, I really don't understand why the target audience of the women's division isn't 10 year old girls instead of... Well, I actually don't know who they're currently trying to appeal to. Alexa Bliss definitely appeals to that market, and I still see AJ retweeting TONS of girls wearing her gear, so I'm sure they're at least aware of if not outright marketing to that demographic these days. Sisters for life.
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Sep 19, 2014 14:35
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Johanns Molemann posted:so the divas division is just kevin dunn's jack off material? Also lots of men
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Sep 19, 2014 14:44
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AJ, Paige and Nattie all seem to have fairly strong female followings. No reason any of the current NXT Divas couldn't as well, assuming they're handled right when they're brought up. (Ha!) You'd think WWE would have been pushing for the younger female audience more, given how big a deal it was with Lita in her heyday. There's got to be a strong, worthwhile market there.
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Sep 19, 2014 14:52
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Let's not get it twisted, we're a far cry from HLA and the days of Kelly Kelly the Exhibitionist Stripper. Probably the most risque gimmick they have is Nattie being unable to hold her bladder/farts.
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Sep 19, 2014 14:54
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Do merch figures ever go public? I want to know how much merch the individual divas actually move. Like, Paige and AJ in particular. The next thing I would want, but will never get, would be demographics of the merch sold. Paige and AJ seem like fairly universal, can appeal to most audience characters. They are strong women, appealing to them. They are attractive, appealing to men. They are good wrestlers, appealing to the iwc.
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Sep 19, 2014 15:00
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Pushing Divas so more girls like wrestling is a risky thing though. Imagine all the boys during lunch break realizing that "girls like WWE". Merchandise sells would drop so quickly.
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Sep 19, 2014 15:06
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Grendels Dad posted:Imagine all the boys during lunch break realizing that "girls like WWE". Merchandise sells would drop so quickly. What are you talking about? Boys wouldn't like WWE because girls like it? What century is this?
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Sep 19, 2014 15:07
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Sometimes we do get the top merchandise sellers from Meltzer. None of the Divas have been on the list IIRC.
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flashy_mcflash posted:What are you talking about? Boys wouldn't like WWE because girls like it? What century is this? The 21st, and it is supremely droll that you seem shocked by the notion that boys might dislike something because girls like it. Children are idiots, hth.
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Sep 19, 2014 15:12
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I think AJ was in the top 5 or top 10 merch shifters for a while. Nowhere near Cena/Punk/DB, but I've definitely seen her mentioned in the merch run-down at some point.
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Sep 19, 2014 15:14
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Grendels Dad posted:The 21st, and it is supremely droll that you seem shocked by the notion that boys might dislike something because girls like it. Children are idiots, hth. Children are getting each other pregnant at 12, I'm sure they'd love to have Aj/Paige on while they do it. In the Attitude Era girls went buck for the Hardys and WWE did pretty well IIRC.
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Sep 19, 2014 15:16
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Well I certainly don't sense AJ as a big mover right now when all she does is skip around the ring to the sounds of crickets from the audience.
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Sep 19, 2014 15:18
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sleepingbuddha posted:
Dean looks perma-drunk which doesn't bother me for reasons unknown.
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Sep 19, 2014 15:21
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Daniel Bryan posted:Well I certainly don't sense AJ as a big mover right now when all she does is skip around the ring to the sounds of crickets from the audience. Her new basketball player gimmick's getting over really well, I don't know what you're talking about. Do you hear all those "See 'em dunk!" chants?
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maxallen posted:I'm not even sure what you mean here. They will go up to the big show, Vince and Dunn's schizophrenic/apathetic booking will ruin them, and they will be canned. I would like very much to be laughably wrong, but I've heard this song way too often not to be pessimistic. quote:Children are getting each other pregnant at 12  Pull up, thread! PULL UP!
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