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I think my main problem with the game right now is setting up the controls. Why are there 3 columns for every control, and which setting lets me stop padlocking a specific target and lets me look forward again?
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F1 is default look forward cockpit view. F2 is external camera (shift-F2 for friendlies, CTRL for enemies) F3 is a chase camera F4 is 3rd person camera, locked above and behind the plane F5 is external view, cycling through various ground targets. F8 is padlock enemy air (Shift F-8 padlock friendly) F9 cycles through several different modes for your PoV hat's viewchanging (free look and several different kinds of snap-tos) F10 sets your default look forward cockpit view to whatever its at currently. You need to be careful with this, as you have to go into the file folders and delete or edit some lua script if you want to get the original default view back precisely. That said I've changed the default view on many of my planes to line up better with the Aldis collimator or iron gunsight. There are 3 columns for every control so you can assign multiple buttons to the same command. Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Sep 21, 2014 |
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Sep 21, 2014 19:27
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Another Otter posted:Behold my amazing fanart which took 3s while I was waiting for my webcam to work. Sent! dtkozl posted:Yeah I wont touch them. Cool, thanks.
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Sep 21, 2014 21:44
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Thanks Shine, you wonderful human being! I sent you a friend request on Steam. Now to dig out my TrackIR and headset sensor. Wish there was a non-clip version where I don't need a headset to wear it. Like a headband.
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Sep 21, 2014 22:20
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Just playing some more co-op shenanigans in the Airgoons mumble right now. Flying two-seaters so anybody can join in as a gunner if you want. The aim is the stress-test my internet and see how many people I can host before it all craps out 
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Sep 22, 2014 02:14
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Endman posted:Just playing some more co-op shenanigans in the Airgoons mumble right now. Flying two-seaters so anybody can join in as a gunner if you want. Wooo!
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Sep 22, 2014 02:25
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Regarding what we're talking about in mumble right now. It is perfectly possible to take off in a Gotha V.  Here, let goons show you.  
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Sep 22, 2014 03:01
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I've been head over heels for DCS, but it doesn't give me that dogfighting thing I want quite as well. I'd love to get in on some of this. If you have any of those codes left, Shine, here's a thing. 
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Sep 22, 2014 04:03
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... Jeff Gerstmann? I'd make a sign for a code, but i'm content just watching this LP since all I have is a 360 controller
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Sep 22, 2014 04:14
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T1g4h posted:... Jeff Gerstmann? that's no excuse Galaga Galaxian posted:Jobbo has been using a controller for both this and his Il-2 LP.
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Sep 22, 2014 04:34
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warhammer651 posted:that's no excuse  I swear my room is better lit than what it looks like! Friar John fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Sep 22, 2014 |
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Sep 22, 2014 04:51
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Well, our little dicking around session is over now. Fun times everyone! Sorry Splode for repeatedly mudering you during the serious part.  The bomber+SE5a dicking around was hilarious though. I also learned the Handley Page can perform a loop. In fact, just before we quit, I managed to do a triple loop, it wasn't very straight but hey! Handley Page Loopdey-loop (gfycat)
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Sep 22, 2014 05:45
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Well, our little dicking around session is over now. Fun times everyone! Sorry Splode for repeatedly mudering you during the serious part. Haha that's ok. I just need more practice. To be honest it was mostly a morale thing, I saw it was you, panicked, and snapped my wings off trying to flee.
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Sep 22, 2014 05:49
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T1g4h posted:... Jeff Gerstmann? I've been playing this almost exclusively with a 360 controller. While not as nice as a joystick, it does work. It's a bit tough though. Remember to bind your rudder input to the triggers, or you're gonna have a hell of a time flying. Also, you'll want to tweak the deadzone in the responses tab. Now get in, and start playing. Hey Shine, if you're willing to wait a bit for me to remember what DLCs I have/don't have, I'm more than willing to throw a picture up of me threatening my controller with extreme violence.
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Sep 22, 2014 07:05
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bobthethurd posted:I've been head over heels for DCS, but it doesn't give me that dogfighting thing I want quite as well. I'd love to get in on some of this. Friar John posted:Alright, I may not be well-equipped, but... Sent! You guys almost had me fooled with your mid-90's email masking that totally works against bots. Friar John, I send you just a Channel Battles key that I had left over from a previous goon who didn't need that particular package. I'm running out of packages and would like to save those for people with joysticks. Sorry gamepad guys. 
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Sep 22, 2014 18:32
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Welp, managed three kills against German fighters in one mission last night. Granted two of those were against guys who were just taking off. But they totally still count. Guess I don't suck at flying as much as I thought I did.
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Sep 22, 2014 19:14
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Oh hey, I temporarily lost my job so it looks like I can finally join in co-op without having to mutter from the workplace when the posts appear! No I totally didn't plan this SHUT UP.
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Sep 22, 2014 19:57
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 One bundle left! e: all gone! Shine fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Sep 22, 2014 |
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Sep 22, 2014 21:14
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Shine posted:
I am literally waiting for Canada Post to deliver a joystick today. Then again, it's loving Canada Post. They've turned what was supposed to be a 2 day delivery, with a package going exactly 42 kilometres, into 4 days. loving canada post is probably gonna take an extra week because they're loving horrid  I loving hate Canada Post
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Sep 22, 2014 21:51
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MohawkSatan posted:I am literally waiting for Canada Post to deliver a joystick today. Then again, it's loving Canada Post. They've turned what was supposed to be a 2 day delivery, with a package going exactly 42 kilometres, into 4 days. CanadaPost is a piece of poo poo. They can't manage Montreal to Ottawa in a day, but Toronto to Ottawa is fine.
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Sep 22, 2014 21:53
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When are you guys flying usually? I don't start work until 1pm CST generally. I think I might claim the fastest death in a Camel, I started a quick sortie and decided to dive a bit and pulled up and stalled all the way down to the earth from 1.5k meters. Holy poo poo I can't believe such a plane exists.
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Sep 22, 2014 22:03
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Jobbo_Fett posted:CanadaPost is a piece of poo poo. They can't manage Montreal to Ottawa in a day, but Toronto to Ottawa is fine. Right now they're failing to do Richmond to Maple Ridge. Both in the loving lower mainland. Joystick was shipped same day I ordered it, got the tracking number and everything, and then loving Canada Post has been sitting on it since then. Except today, it's in transit(hopefully to my damned house  )
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Sep 22, 2014 22:04
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Ringo Star Get posted:When are you guys flying usually? I don't start work until 1pm CST generally. If it makes you feel better I tried a quick flight in a pup after not using it for a while. I snap-rolled to get an albatross off my tail and snap-rolled my wings RIGHT off.
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Sep 22, 2014 22:09
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Rice Krispies is secretly a breakfast cereal commemorating the pilot losses of World War 1 when it was discovered that snap rolls were incredibly dangerous. Hence "Snap, Crackle, Pop". It was only released ten years after the war was over because they didn't want it to be too obvious 
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Sep 22, 2014 22:19
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Am I too late to the gravy train?
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Sep 22, 2014 22:27
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pun pundit posted:Am I too late to the gravy train? No, but the Canada Post is. Sorry, MohawkSatan Sent! All gone. For those who missed out, RoF usually gets discounted pretty heavily during Steam Sales, and in the meantime there is still the free version on the RoF website which comes with two planes, including one of the best in the game (the SPAD).
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A few Quick Missions shows that this game is way harder than the videos make it seem. Or, I just suck at flying planes. Still having fun, can't wait to fly with goons and provide examples of how not to fly. The controls setup screen is rather overwhelming. What bits do I need to care about, and what bits don't I need to care about?
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Stick with it. It takes a while to get used to things. Eventually it starts clicking though and you'll start shooting things down (or at least being shot down less). It took me several sorties to get my first kill, and that was only achieved by firing a full load of ammo from my Spanadus at a single enemy plane. Things I use a lot during a fight/flight: The view controls (I mention them here) Zoom in/out, and view reset. PoV slew controls (I've rebound "move head forward/down/left/right" to the arrow keys) Engine One/Off and the Blip Switch (Rotary Engines can temporarily deactive the firing of cylinders, I find it easier to just use this instead of throttle management during a dive) Autopilot and Level Autopilot Time acceleration Icons (push I to bring up indicators so you can see things coming) Reload key (for reloading lewis guns and clearing jams) Honestly that is about it. These planes are mechanically simple enough that there isn't much else TO do with them, unless you want to do manual mixture and radiator controls. I've got a pretty old (but dependable) joystick with few buttons, so I tend to fly "HoKaS" with my left hand constantly on the Keyboard, which is another reason I like the blip switch on radials, reaching over to adjust the stick's throttle is inconvenient. 
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Engine and Weapon control sections are about all you need to look at when you first start binding stuff to your stick. Galaga: You should get headtracking and then use your PoV switches as buttons. 
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Sep 23, 2014 00:02
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Shine posted:All gone. For those who missed out, RoF usually gets discounted pretty heavily during Steam Sales, and in the meantime there is still the free version on the RoF website which comes with two planes, including one of the best in the game (the SPAD). Finally I can reclaim my thread from all the goonselfies Seriously, though, you're awesome, Shine. We had a great time yesterday mucking about in Handley Page bombers. I'll slap together some video I recorded of that and add it in as a bonus for the next update. Next update is on the way, it's just taking a while because of LIFE. Expect to see your AI alter-egos die horribly in the near future!
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pixelbaron posted:Engine and Weapon control sections are about all you need to look at when you first start binding stuff to your stick. I've been wanting to, but sadly my  is stretched very thin these days. I've been on&off considering building a Freetrack system but I constantly  about it.
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Can bombers dogfight at all once they've dropped their payload and lost all of that weight? I'm curious to know how specialized early war planes were.
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Pvt.Scott posted:Can bombers dogfight at all once they've dropped their payload and lost all of that weight? I'm curious to know how specialized early war planes were. Nope, the "heavy" bombers are terrible dogfighters without their bombloads and plenty of fuel.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:I've been wanting to, but sadly my Once I started headtracking I couldn't imagine how I was able to get by with mouse or hat control. Can't recommend it enough. 
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Well, several two-seaters are quite capable of being dangerous in offensive roles if you count them as Bombers. The Roland during much of its career was as fast or faster than most scouts and was decently agile, while the Bristol F2 wasn't called "Fighter" for nothing and many considered it just as agile and capable as a single-seater scout (And were often used to escort other two-seaters or even used in direct single-seater roles). The "Strategic Bombers" of the Handley Page and Gotha V, however, are less capable in that regard. The Gotha is especially plodding and cumbersome. The Handley Page, as we found out last night, is surprisingly agile, but ultimately lacks the agility to "dogfight" and its only hope is to use its two dorsal defensive turrets in some kind of pseudo-gunship role. Even then, its fodder for scouts.
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If you have a webcam you can try FaceTrackNoIR, though I don't know how good it is anymore since I have gotten a TrackIR.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Well, several two-seaters are quite capable of being dangerous in offensive roles if you count them as Bombers. The Roland during much of its career was as fast or faster than most scouts and was decently agile, while the Bristol F2 wasn't called "Fighter" for nothing and many considered it just as agile and capable as a single-seater scout (And were often used to escort other two-seaters or even used in direct single-seater roles). The Bristol is an amazing piece of kit. I'd love to show it off solo or in some co-op eventually. Also I think we proved yesterday that the Handley Page is a perfectly workable dogfighter 
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Gerblederp posted:It is also a very capable ramming platform. IIRC the fighters from that mission would melt upon touching the Handley Page's blade-like wings
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Zephirum posted:IIRC the fighters from that mission would melt upon touching the Handley Page's blade-like wings So did the Handley-Page Truly a double-edged sword
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