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Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

Gough Suppressant posted:

reminder, this is the 'good' melbourne newspaper.

There hasn't been a 'good' Melbourne newspaper in years and years

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Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

Jonah Galtberg posted:

There hasn't been a 'good' Melbourne newspaper in years and years

mX's vent your spleen is pretty amusing

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
How the hell did Fairfax make such an amateur mistake with that photo. I hope that guy sues them for all their domain.com advertising revenue.

Drugs
Jul 16, 2010

I don't like people who take drugs. Customs agents, for example - Albert Einstein

Jonah Galtberg posted:

There hasn't been a 'good' Melbourne newspaper in years and years

Melbourne Trading Post

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

If you shoot
you better hit your mark
So Tassie is going ahead with another 500 public service cuts because, god damnit, if we can't stop cost of living increases we'll just stop people making a living flat out. Also the unions were being mean :qq:

ABC posted:

The Tasmanian Government will cut an extra 500 jobs from the public service after failing to win support from the state's Upper House for a pay freeze.

Treasurer Peter Gutwein announced the Government would withdraw the bill minutes after the Upper House voted to delay it.

He said delaying a vote on it is was effectively rejecting the bill.

The move will mean 500 more full-time equivalent public service jobs will be cut on top of the 700 already planned to go.

.....

The Government's move has been condemned by unions, with several questioning its motives for pulling the pay freeze bill.

The Community and Public Sector Union's Tom Lynch said the move was "arrogant".

"The Government is saying we're not prepared to talk to you but we will be sacking 500 more people, this is extraordinary behaviour by an incredibly arrogant government," he said.

"Every Tasmanian needs to see that this Government is saying that they would prefer to break their promise around frontline workers... than actually negotiate a wage outcome.

"I mean who is behind this? This is an industrial agenda, it is not to do with negotiation around a wage freeze.

"They had a bill that they put up this week which would have destroyed the industrial relations system and now we are seeing their vengeance because the Legislative Council dared to challenge them."

The Health and Community Services Union's Tim Jacobson said the Government has always had another agenda.

"I think it exposes the Government in terms of what this all really has been about and that is it's been about fundamental changes to our industrial relations system, using a pay freeze as a smokescreen," he said.

.....

The Nursing and Midwifery Association's Neroli Ellis is alarmed frontline jobs losses could now be realised as part of the Government's budget strategy.

She rejected the Treasurer's assertion that unions were not ready to negotiate.

"We are prepared to negotiate, we've shown good will right throughout this," she said.

"We've certainly given over 60 solutions to government to implement, very few of any of those solutions have been implemented and they would save real money," she said.

"So we would have...have to ask whether they're really serious about saving money or whether they just want a bandaid fix of sacking people.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-25/tas-government-pulls-pay-freeze-bill/5769396

Friends in education IT here are already covering 5 or 6 schools each, after the initial cuts it could be up to 12 each. If they get hit with further cuts there might only be 10 or so staff covering half the state. I'm sure it's just as catastrophic for every other government department.

No way to save the economy like making sure no one has money to spend! Making sure nothing works properly so you can sell all the systems is just a bonus.

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

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We're looking for fine Men & Women to help Protect the Australian Way of Life.

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Muslim girl racially abused and assaulted in Garden City (Perth) which is probably the highest-class shopping mall in WA. There's almost a minimum average wage check when you enter.

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.

Murodese posted:

Muslim girl racially abused and assaulted in Garden City (Perth) which is probably the highest-class shopping mall in WA. There's almost a minimum average wage check when you enter.

That'll teach that uppity muslim

aejix
Sep 18, 2007

It's about finding that next group of core players we can win with in the next 6, 8, 10 years. Let's face it, it's hard for 20-, 21-, 22-year-olds to lead an NHL team. Look at the playoffs.

That quote is from fucking 2018. Fuck you Jim
Pillbug
And in more "News articles you will never see on the front page of the Daily Telegraph", some bloke apparently went into an Islamic school in SW Sydney with a knife, asking "is this a muslim school" before threatening a teacher and student with said knife.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/26/islamic-school-in-sydneys-south-west-targeted-by-man-wielding-knife

:sigh:

I bet this guy gets an order of australia medal or something

aejix fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Sep 26, 2014

DeathMuffin
May 25, 2004

Cake or Death
We are treading very close to literal fascism in this country

If we had a charismatic leader, we'd be hosed

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

sidviscous posted:

We are treading very close to literal fascism in this country

If we had a charismatic leader, we'd be hosed
More people approve of him than disapprove. We're sooooo Fukt.

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

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Become part of the Legend. Defence Jobs.
What? No they don't. It's like 30/50.


e; 40/50

#Newspoll Abbott: Approve 41 (+6) Disapprove 52 (-2) #auspol

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

It just makes whatever idiot spray painted "you don't have our values" on the side of that mosque look even stupider.

I'd be proud not to have your values if they're to abuse, threaten and vilify those who look a little different.

Mad Katter
Aug 23, 2010

STOP THE BATS

aejix posted:

And in more "News articles you will never see on the front page of the Daily Telegraph", some bloke apparently went into an Islamic school in SW Sydney with a knife, asking "is this a muslim school" before threatening a teacher and student with a knife.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/26/islamic-school-in-sydneys-south-west-targeted-by-man-wielding-knife

:sigh:

I bet this guy gets an order of australia medal or something

It's not at all shocking to see how little coverage this incident receives compared to a guy who probably/maybe was going to attack a random person. Imagine the reaction if the situation was reversed and it was a Muslim person threatening a Catholic school.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

i got banned posted:


Sneak peak for tomorrow Today



Page after page of hysteria, including a whole page devoted to gloating over Fairfax's mistake.

And The Blot? He blames the ALP, ABC, Andrew Wilkie, Paul Barry, Richard Ackland, Q&A, The Greens, for INFLAMMATORY SLANDERS!!! We'd all be fine if it wasn't for those MEDDLING LEFTIES.

Oh and he then slags off people who claim Aboriginal children were stolen, because he doesn't believe the evidence. But SLANDERS :qq:

Such a misunderstood comedian.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Murodese posted:

What? No they don't. It's like 30/50.


e; 40/50

#Newspoll Abbott: Approve 41 (+6) Disapprove 52 (-2) #auspol
Forgot to include source sorry

http://essentialvision.com.au/tag/approval-of-tony-abbott

41% Approve 36% Disapprove. (24 Sept 2014)

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

MysticalMachineGun posted:

It just makes whatever idiot spray painted "you don't have our values" on the side of that mosque look even stupider.

I'd be proud not to have your values if they're to abuse, threaten and vilify those who look a little different.

repostin

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

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We're looking for fine Men & Women to help Protect the Australian Way of Life.

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Cartoon posted:

Forgot to include source sorry

http://essentialvision.com.au/tag/approval-of-tony-abbott

41% Approve 36% Disapprove. (24 Sept 2014)

That's way too far away from the rest of the polls to believe.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



#heyasio is trending.

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.

Mad Katter posted:

It's not at all shocking to see how little coverage this incident receives compared to a guy who probably/maybe was going to attack a random person. Imagine the reaction if the situation was reversed and it was a Muslim person threatening a Catholic school.

I was at work from 6 this morning and was unfortunately exposed to morning TV. To my surprise this was one of the headline stories but the tail end of it had a whole lot of blame shifting and apologia. Now here's some Muslims who are protesting or got angry at us, the responsible meeja, in response to us camping outside their house asking about their terrist son.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Welp looks like brandis is getting his web surveillance laws

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Murodese posted:

That's way too far away from the rest of the polls to believe.

Counterpoint: it's Australia.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal
Now that we can be sure some ASIO computer twerp is reading this thread, it's probably worth just getting my controversial opinions out of the way. Tony Abbott is a nerd and a lizard and probably has a toupee, Christopher Pyne is an anthropomorphic plague rat without the charm, and the entirety of the liberal party would be nazis if the flavor of our racist nationalism encouraged moral hand wringing, and everyone in asio loves to get peed on. Islam is also good, especially the communist ones.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

aejix posted:

And in more "News articles you will never see on the front page of the Daily Telegraph", some bloke apparently went into an Islamic school in SW Sydney with a knife, asking "is this a muslim school" before threatening a teacher and student with said knife.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/26/islamic-school-in-sydneys-south-west-targeted-by-man-wielding-knife

:sigh:

I bet this guy gets an order of australia medal or something

Can't wait for the front page articles about the looming anglo terror

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Men without beards detained.

TheIllestVillain
Dec 27, 2011

Sal, Wyoming's not a country

Amethyst posted:

Can't wait for the front page articles about the looming anglo terror

The intruder was described as an obese Pacific Islander.

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

TheIllestVillain posted:

The intruder was described as an obese Pacific Islander.
Please don't ruin my jokes

blindidiotgod
Jan 9, 2005



Hey Auspol. Check it out: https://twitter.com/nswpolice/status/515318348259672065

quote:

Claims an ADF member was assaulted at Bella Vista have been withdrawn.

aejix
Sep 18, 2007

It's about finding that next group of core players we can win with in the next 6, 8, 10 years. Let's face it, it's hard for 20-, 21-, 22-year-olds to lead an NHL team. Look at the playoffs.

That quote is from fucking 2018. Fuck you Jim
Pillbug
Well they got all the laws through, they can stop lying now

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

TG-Chrono posted:

I work with a taekwondo instructor who instructs with a Muslim bloke from Melbourne's eastern burbs who is pretty devout and active in his community. From conversations with him and information I've gotten from other sources, it seems there is something of a schism forming in the Islamic community around the Dandenong area.

Phone posting from work so can't really elaborate a lot but there are plenty of people from within this community who have approached authorities about questionable activities at certain mosques in the Dandenong area. The surveillance and cancelling of passports were possibly as a result of insider tip offs and moderate Islamic persons are sick of both being painted as extremists by the media but also from apparent 'rogue teachings' by certain scholars.

I've now had two muslim co-workers come to me at different times to explain how they're modern muslims and they don't understand nor care for the 'old fashioned' tenets. They told me this because they clearly want to distance themselves from what they call the traditional 'fundamentalists'. The fact that felt the need to do this kind of makes me sad.

:siren:Anecdote:siren:
I hate to drag beardgate up again but one of them did say to me that you could easily identify, with what he described as "some accuracy", the more traditional / conservative muslims in the community by their facial hair.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.

quote:

"The internet poses one of the greatest threats to our existence," Palmer United Party Senator Glen Lazarus said, speaking out against Senator Ludlam's amendment.

Senator The Brick With Eyes, ladies and gentlemen.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

webmeister posted:

Senator The Brick With Eyes, ladies and gentlemen.

To quote Macklemore, "have you seen the YouTube comments lately?"

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Matthew Beet posted:

I've now had two muslim co-workers come to me at different times to explain how they're modern muslims and they don't understand nor care for the 'old fashioned' tenets. They told me this because they clearly want to distance themselves from what they call the traditional 'fundamentalists'. The fact that felt the need to do this kind of makes me sad.

:siren:Anecdote:siren:
I hate to drag beardgate up again but one of them did say to me that you could easily identify, with what he described as "some accuracy", the more traditional / conservative muslims in the community by their facial hair.
Counter (terrorism) point: If I was trying to cleverly and deceitfully penetrate a security cordon and do Bad Stuff™ I probably won't have my big shouty bushy beard on. See also the pictures of the 911 perpetrators. Profiling has never been a well targeted way of finding the Bad Guys™.

Mad Katter
Aug 23, 2010

STOP THE BATS
Good afternoon AusPol, here's another steaming pile of poo poo:

quote:

Universities creating a plague of dunces, says academic Ian Plimer

AUSTRALIAN universities are churning out a “plague of dunces” with little value or use to the modern workforce, academic and Roy Hill director Ian Plimer says.

Prof Plimer, who sits on the board of Gina Rinehart’s $10 billion iron ore play, also says Australia should not be scared to embrace “elitism” in education and move to restrict university places.

“We don’t need squillions of graduates coming out each year but what we do need are the best people,” he said, speaking in Melbourne yesterday.

“There is nothing wrong with being an elite Olympic athlete; there is nothing wrong with being an elite intellectual. We don’t need clones.”

In a blistering attack on the modern tertiary system, the University of Adelaide mining geologist said government spending should focus on the “hard sciences” that underpinned economic growth rather than “useless degrees that don’t increase the nation’s wealth”.

“Although degrees in fine arts and politics and sociology may well be important, they are probably brakes on the economy rather than stimuli to grow the economy,” Prof Plimer said.

The prominent climate change sceptic also said irrelevant occupational health and safety regulations were hindering the ability of teaching staff to send students to mines to gain practical experience.

Learning had become too narrowly focused on specialist areas and universities were churning out students who lacked a broad education and had little chance of finding work in their study area, he said.

“That is the plague we have, the plague of dunces,” he said.

HAVE YOUR SAY BELOW

Prof Plimer also said too many young Australians wanted to remain in capital cities, meaning they were of little use to mining companies and other industries in remote areas.

Not linking because gently caress News. Clearly demand for coal will continue to increase forever, and we should be trying to develop an uneducated workforce geared solely around digging poo poo out the ground.

thehomemaster
Jul 16, 2014

by Ralp

I loving knew it.

Firetrick
Aug 4, 2006

Heard via the mother of a police officer at Narre Warren that the local radical groups were planning a beheading at Fountain Gate food court. Hearsay of course. Cops at the Hallam mosque heard several mentions of incitement of violence from radical groups.

Cops have been heavily present at shopping centers in nearby suburbs.

Firetrick fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Sep 26, 2014

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Cartoon posted:

Counter (terrorism) point: If I was trying to cleverly and deceitfully penetrate a security cordon and do Bad Stuff™ I probably won't have my big shouty bushy beard on. See also the pictures of the 911 perpetrators. Profiling has never been a well targeted way of finding the Bad Guys™.

Oh I don't agree with it I'm just relating what they had said to me.

DeathMuffin
May 25, 2004

Cake or Death
And in other news, Bill Leak still a piece of poo poo

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
This new law still has to pass House of Reps, right?

Murodese posted:

Muslim girl racially abused and assaulted in Garden City (Perth) which is probably the highest-class shopping mall in WA. There's almost a minimum average wage check when you enter.

I had an old man threaten to bash me in a Woolworth's in Garden City :D

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

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Knew that was coming. Sounded too much like a story that'd been told to his mates and went too far.

"fark m8 i was down at the farkin bottleo the other day and a muzzie tried to bash me and behead me and i hosed his poo poo up m8 ciggy butt brain"

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open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Society: A brake on the economy.

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