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JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer

Supreme Lord Jeremy posted:

I fully support this idea... Besides, Turkey needs a team. Certainly more than Yemen, at least.

Hey, there's only so many Shiite countries - it was that or give Baku a team, especially with the otherwise Shiite Iraq controlled by Sunni Saddam.

Which may be an important point, if my terrible backstory I'm crafting that justifies the creation of a Middle Eastern baseball league is going to make any sort of sense.

EDIT: Make sure to add yourself to the queue if you want to have a player named after you in game: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rn47xAdDvR25frC3TE_tPqNIOBAsWB2cMGgqjY5Dy4U/edit?pli=1#gid=0

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PASS THE MASH
Oct 30, 2013


JosefStalinator posted:

Hey, there's only so many Shiite countries - it was that or give Baku a team, especially with the otherwise Shiite Iraq controlled by Sunni Saddam.

Which may be an important point, if my terrible backstory I'm crafting that justifies the creation of a Middle Eastern baseball league is going to make any sort of sense.

EDIT: Make sure to add yourself to the queue if you want to have a player named after you in game: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rn47xAdDvR25frC3TE_tPqNIOBAsWB2cMGgqjY5Dy4U/edit?pli=1#gid=0

If the story doesn't involve Sandy Koufax coming out of retirement at some point I'm gonna be real disappointed.

Ralepozozaxe
Sep 6, 2010

A Veritable Smorgasbord!
I propose the Abu Dhabi Nermals.

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer

johnfw50 posted:

If the story doesn't involve Sandy Koufax coming out of retirement at some point I'm gonna be real disappointed.

Various figures, from the major leagues to political figures, will probably end up appearing in the meta-story. It's going to be kinda dumb but hey, not everyone gets full enjoyment out of watching spreadsheets change as I do.

Right now we have some good team name proposals, and the Istanbul Constantinoples are currently the only team with even more than one vote. Keep proposing guys - even your failed proposals can be used for the other teams.

LambdaZero
Nov 5, 2009

suck it

Sky Shadowing posted:

I have few bad ideas but the one that keeps popping into my head is the Istanbul Constantinoples.

I like this one, and my ideas all suck. Unless the Tehran Nuclear Furnaces works. (since They Might Be Giants is the brain now.)

Eagle884
Mar 2, 2014
How about the Jerusalem Genies (or Jinn if you prefer)?

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Ralepozozaxe posted:

I propose the Abu Dhabi Nermals.



Play ball.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Alternatively, the Erbil Peacock Angels in the Outfield works for me. Or Angels in the Outremer.

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer

If you play as the Tel Aviv Garfields, I will force you to auto-concede on both Jewish holidays AND Mondays.

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
---------
Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Would it be possible to have a Soviet team and an American team in this league? Because that would make for some fun poo poo, I'm sure of it.

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer
On November 4, 1979, fifty-two Americans were held hostage by Iranian radicals following the Iranian revolution. These hostages would be held captive for 444 days, before finally being released on January 20, 1981. The period following the Iranian Revolution would see the Middle East thrown into a period of sectarian rivalry, turmoil, and discord, where nations and peoples became pawns of cold war politics and foreign imperialism, as well as tools of religious extremism.

This is not that story. This is the story of the unknown fifty-third hostage, a man whose presence in the hostage crisis is unknown, as in our timeline, he was never captured. In this alternate reality, this man would later become a hero of the Middle East – hated by some, loved by many, he found a way to subvert the hatred and religious tension and channel it into healthy sporting competition. The son of a wealthy and powerful United States politician and political family, this man forwent a comfortable life of fame, fortune, and power in order to pursue his dream of bringing about lasting peace, democracy, and baseball to the Middle East.

This is his story. This is the story of how baseball helped avert one of the most devastating wars of the late 20th century, how it helped heal the rift between Israelis and Palestinians, Sunni and Shiite, and how it brought democracy to a corner of the world full of people yearning for freedom.

This is the story of the first commissioner of Muslim (and Israel) League Baseball (MaILB). This is the story of George “Salaam” W. Bush.


The Founding of Muslim (and Israel) League Baseball - Chapter 1: From Texas to Teheran

Midlands, Texas, 1979:


Listen son, if you want to be successful, you need to take risks. Jeb is in Venezuela right now negotiating an oil contract. If you want Arbusto Oil to be successful, you can’t rely on Texas. The oil just isn’t going to last, and the market’s saturated – you need to pick someplace with untapped reserves, or somewhere with a future.


I ain’t gonna just use your connections to get Cousin Khalid to bankroll my operation, pa. I wanna earn it. I wanna show you I’m not a God dang failure!

: *sigh*, listen son – I’m running for President, and drat if this isn’t going to be a tough campaign. I need you to just keep your head low, go find some safe, cheap Saudi oil, and see if you can at least not ruin this family’s image, okay?

: You just don’t understand pa, safe just ain’t me! I’m a man of conviction, of passion – a natural born risk taker! I know I can do great things pa, you just gotta give me a chance...

: Look, I’ve charted a plane for you to Riyadh. Go there and negotiate a favorable contract, set up your oil company, and we’ll talk after the primaries are done.
*HW Leaves*


*under his breath* I’ll show pa I have what it takes... Laura, get my finest jacket! I’m going to...no, no shortcuts. I’m going to Iran.


Paris, October, 1980:


William J. Casey: Gentlemen, you know why were are here. There are some parties in the United States who would benefit from a certain... prolonging of the hostage crisis. While we may not see eye to eye on most things, surely you understand. We both get something out of this - we don’t want an October surprise, you get to continue to humiliate the current President. We can make some phone calls to our friends in Baghdad and Managua as well, and see if we can’t...


Iranian Representative: Ah, you need not name names or provide details. We know how these things work, for Khomeini is no fool. Just-

: Excellent! So we are agreed then – the hostages will remain in your custody, at least until after the Presidential election is done, and Mr. Reagan is elected President.

: I’m glad you could attend, Mr. Bush, for I have some news that may... alter the situation somewhat. If things were so simple, a meeting here would not be necessary. Your intelligence has informed you that we have 52 Americans hostage, yes?

: Yes, my contacts at the CIA have informed me that there are 52 hostages in your control, why?

: *cracking a smile* You must be a busy man, I understand. You have priorities with a campaign and your own business, and still you have friends in high places. But, lately, have you had any time for family? Have you, perhaps, talked to your son recently?

*The Iranian Representative throws a series of photographs on the table, showing a broken, beaten George W. Bush in Iranian custody*


: You God drat piece of poo poo, is that my son? What the hell is he doing in Iran? He’s supposed to be in Saudi Arabia!

: Haha, the fool, he comes to Iran in 1979 to negotiate oil contracts with the Shah. He ignored the brewing discontent, he ignored our grievances, and instead, found himself a friend with that fool Shah, with nothing to show for it other than a hangover and empty promises. The Shah was able to flee, but your son was not so lucky – he hid at the U.S. Embassy, and is now in custody along with the others.

: God drat it, let him go. He may be no Jeb, but drat it, let my son go – the rest can stay!

: Now now, you have said you want the hostages to remain in our custody, and so they remain. *smiles evilly* It is amusing to have the son of a man of such power, and perhaps now we have some more say in how these negotiations go. Before we continue these negotiations, I have but one question for you Mr. Bush. You are a veteran of war, and surely you know what happens to prisoners of high value. Have you, perhaps, heard of a man named John McCain?


Teheran, December, 1979


Mr. Bush, or should I say, Mr. Vice President, I am so glad you could come here personally. I see you are nervous - do not fear, you will not become our fifty-fourth hostage. So far, your country’s... concessions have been reasonable enough that we will not risk reversing our great fortune.

: I’m not Vice President yet, Khomeini. And you know I’m only here to make sure you bastards are keeping my son safe. I saw the pictures, I heard the threats, there’s no way in hell I’m letting you turn George into another Frankenstein like the charlies did to that poor McCain boy.

: Oh, we have done no such thing. Would you like to see for yourself?

*The ayatollah motions, and W emerges from a door, a bit skinny, restrained, but otherwise not unusual except for his sobriety*

: Daddy! Oh Jesus daddy, I’m glad you’re here. Bring me back to Texas!

: God drat it George, I knew something like this would happen! Just listen to me next time! You’re not Jeb, and you never will be, no matter how hard you try.

:*visibly shaken* After all this, after I’ve been captured by these damned Arabs for months, you still come and tell me I ain’t as good as Jeb!

: *Ahem* Amusing family dynamics aside, let us discuss the matter of your son’s release. We have received the shipments and other demanded concessions, but one thing still remains. You promised that you would keep the Israelis, Saudis, and Iraqis from intervening in our revolution. Yet, despite your promises, Saddam and his Sunni allies appear poised to strike. Our nation is strong, but
Iraq may yet undo all of what we have done. And in the event of our failure, I cannot guarantee the safety of your son...

: We’ve done everything we can! We’ve told Saddam he will receive no more aid, threatened sanctions, cut off CIA contacts, everything in our power! The bastard seems hell bent on following his own course. You can’t punish us, punish me, for not doing the impossible... what would you have us do?

: This is not our problem. Unless you can find some way to keep Saddam from launching his attack, your son will remain in our custody.

: Uhm, I have an-

: This is absolutely ludicrous, how the hell am I supposed to get that insane fool to listen to me!

: Daddy, I –

: As I said, your problem, not ours. The other hostages will be released at the agreed time, no one need know of your son’s demise but yourself.

: God dang it, I –

: There’s absolutely nothing I can do that’s going to get Saddam to listen to reason. That man revels in death, I doubt there’s anything else he enjoys more than killing and –

: BASEBALL!

: Would you shut your son up, please.

: drat it George, I told you to shut up, and now you’re babbling about sports? Why the hell did I name you after myself...

: No pop, I have an idea, a way to get Saddam to listen, a way to help the Ayatollah, and, maybe, just maybe, help all these poor folks in the Middle East out! I don’t know much about Soonis or Shites or whatever other nonsense these people fight about, but I know one way to get people to resolve their differences, one way to help heal wounds and bring wealth, freedom, and prosperity to the entire region!

: And what might that be, junior? What is your great idea?

: Yes, this should be amusing.


Let’s start a baseball league.


EDIT: Just to be clear, keep proposing names for a while, voting remains open.

JosefStalinator fucked around with this message at 11:14 on Sep 26, 2014

Ralepozozaxe
Sep 6, 2010

A Veritable Smorgasbord!
how about the Jakarta Amorphophallus Titanum



or possibly just the Jakarta Stink Flowers

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

JosefStalinator posted:

Let’s start a baseball league.
Oh goodness yes :allears:

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer
Some great suggestions so far, here's where things stand:

Islamabad Beef - 1
Istanbul Constantinoples - 2
Abu Dhabi Nermals - 1
Jerusalem Genies - 1
Tel Aviv Garfields - 1
Erbil Peacock Angels in the Outfield - 1
Jakarta Amorphophallus Titanum/Stink Flowers - 1


Many of these names will be preserved in your rival teams, but otherwise feel free to keep making suggestions. Since this vote is actually important and not just a bunch of boring structural things, I wanna give a bit more time for people to have a say in its outcome.

After this, we just have a couple more things (probably just take care of financials and playoffs in one fell swoop) to determine and we can get drafting.

inSTAALed
Feb 3, 2008

MOP

n'

SLOP
Abu Dhabi Nermals and Tel Aviv Garfields should be rivals.

We should be the Islamabad Beef, however.

Ice To Meet You
Mar 5, 2007

Qatar Petroleum.

Armitage
Aug 16, 2005

"Mathman's not here." "Oh? Where is he?" "He's in the Mathroom."

Alan Trammell posted:

Qatar Petroleum.

This, I tell ya what.

Clean burning fuel.

LambdaZero
Nov 5, 2009

suck it
The Dubai Golden Toilets

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer
Here's how the tally stands:

Islamabad Beef - 2
Istanbul Constantinoples - 3
Abu Dhabi Nermals - 1
Jerusalem Genies - 1
Tel Aviv Garfields - 1
Erbil Peacock Angels in the Outfield - 1
Jakarta Amorphophallus Titanum/Stink Flowers - 1
Qatar Petroleum - 1?
Dubai Golden Toilets - 1
Damascus Steelers
Kuwait Kumquats - 1


We technically have a tie between the Beef and Constantinoples, so if anyone wants to cast the tie breaking vote(s) feel free to do so. I'll draft up the league structure with the team names later tonight, so there's still time for more suggestions (including other nation/city teams).

JosefStalinator fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Sep 27, 2014

Ralepozozaxe
Sep 6, 2010

A Veritable Smorgasbord!
My vote for our team is for the Istanbul Constantinoples

just another team name could be the Damascus Steelers

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer
The Founding of Muslim (and Israel) League Baseball - Chapter 2: From Baghdad to Beirut

Baghdad, 1979:


They want us to do what!?


Philosopher and advisor Michel Aflaq:
Now, Saddam, calm down and think about this. The Ba’athist party was founded on the principles of socialism and pan-Arabism. An Arab-wide sports league might be just the thing -

: A loving baseball league? This is absolutely insane! You know full well we have the power at our disposal to dispatch those Shiite bastards and finally win back Arabistan and the Shatt Al-Arab in one great maneuver. It would cement my legacy as the greatest Iraqi ever to live!

: But can we win such a war without the Americans? And Saddam, don’t forget why you started this revolution. By uniting the Arabs, and the Sunnis, we can achieve things military conquest could never –

: Don’t lecture me Michel, there’s a reason you’re a philsopher and I’m the President.

: There is just one more thing... perhaps Saddam, you have heard of the term, ringer?

*Uday and Qusay, then teenagers, walk into the room, baseball bats in hand*

: Aren’t they a bit young to be involved in this scheme? And I thought ringers were supposed to be good – none of us know the first thing about baseball, and less about gaining any sort of competitive advantage.

: *Motions for someone to enter*


Tom House:
Hello Mr. President. I was told you were... looking for a way to... even the playing field?


Tel Aviv, 1979


This is... insane. The Arabs are organizing a baseball league?


Not just the Arabs, Mr. Prime Minister – word is that Iran, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and other Muslim states are considering joining too. Why are you so concerned? It’s just a sports league. It’ll simply be another source of useless condemnation like that laughable Arab League.

: And how do we know this isn’t a front for something else? I wouldn’t put it past the Arabs to give the “Palestinians” a team, and then start making money off the enterprise. Soon, we’ll be shut out, and then who knows what they’ll do?

: Then... why don’t we join?

: What? Why the hell would we join an Arab baseball league?

: Have you not read the full brief, Mr. Prime Minister? They are saying it is being organized by the son of Vice President-elect Bush. Not only this, there are rumors that the outcome of the games themselves may have bearing on real events...

: Could we even field a team?

*Dayan motions, and a man enters the room*


I may be able to help with that. Allow me to introduce myself, Mr. Prime Minister. My name is Benjamin Netanyahu, and I spent much of my childhood in the United States. I can tell you for a fact that we could organize an Aliyah of Jewish players eager to benefit our state, and bolster our position, if we were to join this nascent league...

: Interesting... I wasn’t aware there were so many Jews in the United States that played baseball. But will they be enough? Do you even understand baseball or its rules well enough to organize our team?

: I may not be able to, but allow me to make one call – I think I know just the man for the job.

*Netanyahu picks up the Prime Minister’s phone, dials a number, and a female’s voice answers*

: Hello? Hey Anne, could you put your husband on the phone? Great, thanks.

*brief pause*

It’s Bibi. He said yes. When can you get to Israel?


I’ve already booked my flight.


Beirut, 1979


Israel’s motion is acknowledged. All those in favor?

*A group of Middle Eastern Delegates raise their hands in unison*

The motion passes. The non-Muslim division shall be called the Greenberg division, and all non-Muslims will be included in this division. As per Israel’s request, this division will be within the Shiite league, evening us out at two divisions per league. That’s everything then, ain’t it?

: I hope you, and you father, realize the gravity of the situation. Should the Sunni League win the championship, I expect the Shatt Al-Arab to be immediately ceded to Iraq. Failure to do so will undermine all that we’ve worked for here with this ridiculous scheme.

: Don’t you worry your pretty little moustache, Saddy. Any and all disagreements referred to the league will be considered binding, and any of our members’ who don’t go along with it, will be booted from the league and face my daddy’s wrath.


If there ain’t no more objections? Good, then, as your first commissioner, I officially declare the opening of the Muslim (and Israel) League Baseball. See everyone at the draft!

*W bangs his gavel, and everyone claps politely, as important world leaders shuffle past each other, glaring menacingly with little conversation. Through one door, Hafez Al-Assad furtively darts into the corner of the hallway, and speaks softly into his concealed microphone*


Moscow, calling Moscow. Did you receive the transmission without difficulty? The proceedings went exactly as we suspected – the Americans are indeed making a power play, and I fear that we will find ourselves even more isolated and surrounded by American puppets and fools! We have been granted a team, but I do not think we can compete...

*In a dingy Moscow office, an aging Breshnev laughs*


Ah, Hafez, do not sell us so short! You do not think we are looking out for you, comrade? You are one of a dwindling number of friends in the Middle East, so just you wait... we have been preparing for just such an event for some time. I take a trip to Siberia soon to oversee final stages of project, but, in case this line is insecure, let me just put it this way – the Americans will not see what is coming.

*Breshnev hangs up the phone and calls in his secretary*

Comrade, I need three things. First, call Fidel and tell him it is time he paid us a visit. Second, tell Novosibirsk that experiment бейсбол is to be completed now, and the subject is to be sent to Moscow. Third, get me another vodka.

*Breshnev picks up a grainy photograph from his desk, and smiles*

JosefStalinator fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Sep 27, 2014

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer
Alright, it looks like the Istanbul Constantinoples is leading. I'll write a brief story thing introducing the team and its background soon.

For now, have a look at how the divisions are shaking up:


I tried to make the groupings make sense, and group them roughly by geopolitical alliances. I really wanted to include the Nermals, so they're in the Jinnah division, even if they're a bit of the odd man out.

If you feel like you have any good team names, or cities, that fit well with the theme, feel free to post it.



Here's the next step: :siren:Financials:siren:

Since financials are somewhat complex, I've given you four options. In order to choose well, let me explain what the options are and what determines a team's finances:

The real variation in finances comes from two variables: market size and fan enthusiasm.

Market size is borne by the size of the metro area and, roughly, where you can generate a market to sell merchandise and whatnot to your fans. Larger metro areas have higher market sizes, typically. While it should be more static, the statistic can change based on a team's success, and is kind of arbitrary in OOTP when dealing with fictional settings. Istanbul seems to be pretty small in the simulated seasons I ran, so we may have trouble being successful if there are no equalizing measures. Might be a fun challenge, though.

Fan Enthusiasm is determined by a team’s success. Technically, markets with high fan loyalty (a statistic that is arbitrary) will make this less elastic, even in bad times. Think of how Wrigley continues to sell tickets to Cubs games. Fan enthusiasm is determined by a team’s success. Wining championships makes this go up, and fans go to games, and you get more revenue. Prolonged periods of being bad will make this go down.

As such, teams with small markets and low fan enthusiasm can often be trapped in a cycle of not having enough money to then elicit more sales and pay for better players. There are a number of ways to deal with this problem, and I've given you four options, in order of forced fairness. The first option forces all teams on the same budget, the last option lets the free market reign, and the middle two options offer methods by which to assist poor teams without unduly punishing the wealthy.

Keep in mind, that if we are successful and we choose absolute equality, players will demand more money - and likely we won't be able to pay them. But, if we are terrible, it means more good players might trickle our way from the other teams that can no longer pay their inflated salaries.

:siren:So, vote on your preferred option:siren:

a. Absolute equality – all teams are forced to adhere to a (roughly) similar budget. This means that market size and fan enthusiasm will have minimal impact on the budget.

b. Luxury Tax – Free market, but with a fat luxury tax of 50% above 120% the average payroll. The tax is distributed only to the poors. Rich teams will pay a penalty for paying their players more than the average, and it'll go directly to the poor teams.

c. Set % of income – Free market, but income is taxed at 25% of total team income, then distributed equally to all teams. This is the "fairtax" of the options - all teams are taxed 25% and the money is evenly redristributed back to all the other teams. Hurts rich teams a bit, but not nearly as much as the luxury tax.

d. Free Market – all teams will have budgets influenced by their market size and fan enthusiasm. Freedom reigns. :evil:

This is the last vote, and then we will get drafting!

Ice To Meet You
Mar 5, 2007

JosefStalinator posted:

If you feel like you have any good team names, or cities, that fit well with the theme, feel free to post it.

I did already! Although the company would obviously require a free market league, in the interest of fairness.

Supreme Lord Jeremy
Jul 12, 2006

"We have waited centuries for this moment. The rivers will flow with the blood of those who oppose us."
We must spread the Free Market. I mean come on, the first word is basically freedom :911:.

Arquebus
Feb 19, 2013
Oh my god, this sounds amazing and I have no idea what's going on.

That said a free market sounds most like what most non-American sports do, so let's get into that.

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer
So, to sate my curiosity, I ran a league with this structure for a few seasons just to see what the financials looked like:



Istanbul seemed permanently stuck at "below average", but with a pretty solid fanbase. This means we may see a hard cap on how much revenue we pull in, but at the same time, when we suck it won't decline quite as rapidly.

I'm not sure if the market size is determined at the start though, so it may be that when I actually start our league it will give us a better/worse situation.

I also wanted to post about this simulated league if only for the greatest randomly named player I've ever seen.

GoldenPrice
Oct 2, 2013
Free market all the way

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

As a question, I know that sometimes Baseball teams have spats with their respective cities, is there an option to relocate to get a new stadium or better market? Such as when the braves said gently caress it and moved 10 miles from where they are now to a richer area spot where they got a good deal on land and taxes.

Ralepozozaxe
Sep 6, 2010

A Veritable Smorgasbord!
The rich and powerful will cull the weak, so Free Market it is.

Also another name, the New Delhi Sliced Meats.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

Free Market financials.

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer

KKKLIP ART posted:

As a question, I know that sometimes Baseball teams have spats with their respective cities, is there an option to relocate to get a new stadium or better market? Such as when the braves said gently caress it and moved 10 miles from where they are now to a richer area spot where they got a good deal on land and taxes.

Actually, the one thing OOTP doesn't do that Baseball Mogul has down a bit better is financing/building new baseball parks.

It's not that OOTP doesn't have parks and dimensions, it's just that if we ever wanted to move the team, we just edit the team's information with a new city, and just edit the park, and instantly it changes.

Which reminds me, if anyone has any preferences for park dimensions or characteristics, feel free to post it. I.e: Retractable dome, astroturf, pitcher-friendly, hitter friendly, etc.

It's pretty obvious that free market is everyone's desire, so I'll get the ball rolling on the next step when I have time later tonight.

Giovanni_Sinclair
Apr 25, 2009

It was on this day that his greatest enemy defeated, the true lord of darkness arose. His name? MARIO.

JosefStalinator posted:


Which reminds me, if anyone has any preferences for park dimensions or characteristics, feel free to post it. I.e: Retractable dome, astroturf, pitcher-friendly, hitter friendly, etc.


Where there any retractable roof around this time? I know there where domes but don't know we had those yet, anyway since we are in the Middle East during the summer have retractable roofs to make the players less hot and I guess make most of the fields have AstroTurf and some have grass. Also use a randomized thing to decide which ballpark is hitter or pitcher friendly.

Ralepozozaxe
Sep 6, 2010

A Veritable Smorgasbord!
Our stadium needs to look like the Hagia Sophia with the minarets and everything, but with a retractable dome.

Also because we still need a few a team name and a logo. the Kabul Cabal.

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer


Chapter 3: From Cincinnati to Constantinople

Istanbul, 1979:


*A group of shadowy figures are seated around a table, shaped like a crescent moon. A man with a thick Turkish accent speaks.*
Please, have a seat. What was your name, Mister... gül?


No matter. Look, we know you are not here entirely by choice. We know things did not go well in the United States, a situation arose, and we are very thankful that you could help us here. The CIA tells us you are the perfect man for the job of managing our baseball team and ensuring the interests of the United States, Turkey, and all of NATO are pursued in earnest.

*In the middle of the room, a man is bound and gagged. He offers some muffled resistance*


Listen Pete, it works like this. You sign the paper, you take the contract. What you did goes away, never heard of again. If you’re good, maybe we’ll let you back into baseball. Or even the Hall of Fame. But for now, we can’t let that happen. You refuse, and you come back to America as a prisoner – and you can kiss your career, and any chance at ever reaching that hits record, goodbye.

*The gagged man attempts to flip off the men at the crescent table*


Listen you stupid son of a bitch, the CIA knows everything, and if you don’t cooperate with our Turkish friends here, you’ll be lucky to make it back to the United States alive. Things don’t work here like they do in the states – when there’s a problem, the Turks here make it go away.

*The man gestures to the poster of Ataturk with his gun*

This guy didn’t gently caress around. You crossed him, and you were dead. And you know what? They loving love him here. He’s a Stalin or a Hitler without a legacy of genocide and tyranny, even though he did the same God drat thing.

*The turkish man coughs, and pushes a series of papers toward the gagged man. The man with the gun takes off the gag and unbounds the prisoner’s hands.*


God drat it. I should never have tried to strangle those hookers. And the hobo fights, and the betting on hobo fights... And it’s Rose. Pete Rose.

*Pete scribbles his name onto the piece of paper*


*smiles* Thank you Mr. Rose. May I congratulate you for being the manager of Turkey’s first baseball team. And what will you call our great team from Istanbul?


: I dunno, I think I heard a song about this place once. Isn’t it famous for its Constantinoples?

JosefStalinator fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Sep 28, 2014

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer


: Well here we are. I’m manager, and apparently General Manager, of my own baseball team. Now, I figured this would happen someday, but not under these circumstances. Those bastards have me by the balls, but it’s alright, I’ll show them I’m not only the best drat player there is – I’ll clear my name and show I know how to manage as well. Once I do well, they'll let me back in, and I'll be a Hall of Famer in no time. Baseball don't owe me nothin', but I owe it to the game to get my rear end back in there.

That’s where you come in. What they don’t know is that the voices in my head, they tell me what to do. How the hell do they think I hit so well? The voice says fastball low, I swing, and god drat it if it ain’t usually a fastball low. So voices, let’s take a look around the league and see what we're up against.



: Looks like our team, the Istanbul Constantinoples (a stroke of genius on my part) are in the Hussein Division, in the Sunni League. That means we play real baseball – no damned DH like in the Shiite League. No idea who our rivals might be, but we gotta beat the Baghdad Baathists, Riyadh Wahabbis, and Cairo Celopatras to get to the playoffs.

I’m not gonna concern myself with the rest of the league just yet, but I know we’ll kick their butts when the time comes.


: That’s our league logo. Just a big rear end M? I like it, but some might want something fancier.


: And our team logo. Also a big rear end letter, this time just an I. Could maybe use something a bit more creative there.

Well, we’ll take a look at the team, personnel, and finances in depth. But first, we gotta get a team going.



: Looks like we draft first! We got a tough decision to make – we get first overall pick. Don’t worry voices, I’ll make sure to check the top candidates and see if we can’t decide on the best drat player this Godforsaken place has got.

We finally start drafting tomorrow

JosefStalinator fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Sep 29, 2014

inSTAALed
Feb 3, 2008

MOP

n'

SLOP
Pete Rose go home... you're drunk.

LambdaZero
Nov 5, 2009

suck it

inSTAALed posted:

Pete Rose go home... you're drunk.

Just like all of the greats. :allears:

Ralepozozaxe
Sep 6, 2010

A Veritable Smorgasbord!
Here is a possible logo for the Constantinoples.

A RICH WHITE MAN
Jul 30, 2010

See them other chickenheads? They don't never leave the coop.
The Ezo Republic./

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C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
I've heard of a goon group griefing some other game as the Gaza Strippers and that's a perfect name for this endeavor.

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