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NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011

Effectronica posted:

Agreed. If siblings separated by adoption meet and gently caress later in life, they should be executed as pedophiles.

cool, add an exception in that extremely rare case, dads/moms shouldn't be loving kids.

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The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster

The Snark posted:

Here's a big problem with incest that can't be dismissed as being basically eugenics.

It's not comparable to just two adults who want to gently caress in most cases. Exceptions apply because there are, say, adoptees who meet each other later on- and while even then it's pretty disgusting personally it is not something that can be reasonably punished legally.

However, if it became considered legal as a whole I am not so optimistic as to believe foolish/disgusting people would be beyond grooming younger siblings or even their own children to be future fuckbuddies. To prove they did would probably be quite difficult so as long as they're willing to wait until they hit majority before going public- huzzah!

One would hope social censure would be enough to discourage it, but I can't say I believe it. Not when there seem to be plenty of loathsome folk on the internet who get excited from the idea as it is.

Date outside of the family, is it really THAT HARD for you to leave the house? Also keep in mind even should it be legal, without that grooming they probably wouldn't want to touch your stank bits anyway. There are inbuilt biological deterrents and you are probably an awful person for other reasons. Additionally.


The Snark posted:

Seriously, the gently caress is wrong with you unironic defenders. The lot of you deserve special titles for your posts here, I shouldn't have had to type that out for anyone.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

The Snark posted:

Reread. Try again. THAT is an exception I addressed myself.

Consider you may be an idiot defending the indefensible.

Hmm, looks like you're a pedo too. Thankfully, you're not German so the pederasts can't protect you.


NutritiousSnack posted:

cool, add an exception in that extremely rare case, dads/moms shouldn't be loving kids.

Did you even read the article or are you just going crusading? This happened, applying only to siblings and not to parents/children, because a guy was arrested and imprisoned for loving his long-lost sister.

The Snark
May 19, 2008

by Cowcaster

Effectronica posted:

Hmm, looks like you're a pedo too. Thankfully, you're not German so the pederasts can't protect you.


Did you even read the article or are you just going crusading? This happened, applying only to siblings and not to parents/children, because a guy was arrested and imprisoned for loving his long-lost sister.

I see legalizing incest is a topic that is deeply important to you. I'll stop trying to sway you from your idiotic views lest you accuse me of horrible crimes in lieu of having an actual argument again. You are a credit to anime.

fuck off Batman
Oct 14, 2013

Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah!


A mother and her son had a night of long and steamy incestuous sex. After they are finished, she turns to him and says:
- My boy, your cock is much better than that of your fathers!

- Yeah, I know - He answers.
- My sister thinks so too.

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax

The Snark posted:

I see legalizing incest is a topic that is deeply important to you. I'll stop trying to sway you from your idiotic views lest you accuse me of horrible crimes in lieu of having an actual argument again. You are a credit to anime.

Ah nice, the Care defense. Epic Care much? -- guy who wrote 6 paragraphs about the thing

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Effectronica posted:

Agreed. If siblings separated by adoption meet and gently caress later in life, they should be executed as pedophiles.

both types of people should stop what they are doing and probably suicide themselves.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

The Snark posted:

I see legalizing incest is a topic that is deeply important to you. I'll stop trying to sway you from your idiotic views lest you accuse me of horrible crimes in lieu of having an actual argument again. You are a credit to anime.

See, your view is that people are incapable of self-regulation, so it is necessary to have an external force preventing everyone from molesting children and loving their siblings. This is something that really falls apart if you think about it for more than a minute and apply it as a principle rather than a confusion of law with morals. Not to mention that it does say something quite a bit worse about you, whether you're really filled with suppressed incestuous feelings (lol) or you're just an elitist tard.

Not to mention that bringing up grooming is ridiculous, because incest laws don't and can't outlaw grooming except after the fact anyways.

gently caress, if society can survive catholic school girl fetish porn, jokes about the Mary Kay Letourneau trial, and the music video for "Total Eclipse of the Heart" without everything collapsing into a mass of molestation, maybe people aren't really all secretly pedophiles after all.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
its getting pretty clear that society isn't surviving those things.

e: see also; A german committee claiming incest is a fundamental right.

Miltank fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Sep 28, 2014

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Miltank posted:

its getting pretty clear that society isn't surviving those things.

Wrong, but hopefully you don't listen and kill yourself LMAO XD XD

ColdReaches
Oct 12, 2013

Place : Detroit
Date : 4031 A.D.
"The royal blood line must be pure"

1470 a.d.

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

Effectronica posted:

Wrong, but hopefully you don't listen and kill yourself LMAO XD XD

*sticks tongue in another dudes pooper hole*

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

So I guess grooming is 100% A-OK as long as you're not related to the victim.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Fister Roboto posted:

So I guess grooming is 100% A-OK as long as you're not related to the victim.

no its still bad.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

why don't you go bomb a SLC gay bar you pussy

cis white male
Jul 5, 2014

i'm a fag i'm a lesbian

Kyrie eleison posted:

incest is a case of romeo & juliet except theyre both montagues lol

nice

ColdReaches
Oct 12, 2013

Place : Detroit
Date : 4031 A.D.
If you want to gently caress your family go for it, morals are lost. who loving cares

edit: unless shes like 13 or something

raping kids is never funny

happens 56929784326792436432 times every day in your saudi land

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Miltank posted:

no its still bad.

Then why are incest laws necessary to prevent it?

ColdReaches
Oct 12, 2013

Place : Detroit
Date : 4031 A.D.

Fister Roboto posted:

Then why are incest laws necessary to prevent it?

morals are questioned.

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

Effectronica posted:

why don't you go bomb a SLC gay bar you pussy

I'm not the one judging the sexual practices of consenting adults, whilst lapping at a dude's bunghole.

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax

Miltank posted:

e: see also; A german committee claiming incest is a fundamental right.

It's in the universal declaration of human rights under article 16 :D

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Fog Tripper posted:

I'm not the one judging the sexual practices of consenting adults, whilst lapping at a dude's bunghole.

Seriously, you've got a real problem with the homos, so why not strike a blow for "independent conservatism" by going down and splitting someone's skull open with a golf club. Spit in the face of government tyranny and the gay agenda at the same time. Don't let the fag cops arrest you either.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

butplug accident posted:

It's in the universal declaration of human rights under article 16 :D

looks like another case of drive-by redtexting

Slush Garbo
Nov 20, 2007

FALSE SLACK
is
BETTER
than
NO SLACK

butplug accident posted:

It's in the universal declaration of human rights under article 16 :D




Article 16.

(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.


It doesn't specifically exclude incest, but I could see someone making an argument that consanguinuity is not specifically protected or allowed for here, and that sec.3 could be used to support a law against it.




e:http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/



e2: vvvv get a room you two vvvv

Slush Garbo fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Sep 28, 2014

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

Effectronica posted:

Seriously, you've got a real problem with the homos, so why not strike a blow for "independent conservatism" by going down and splitting someone's skull open with a golf club. Spit in the face of government tyranny and the gay agenda at the same time. Don't let the fag cops arrest you either.

so much projection and self loathing

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Hugh Malone posted:

Article 16.

(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.


It doesn't specifically exclude incest, but I could see someone making an argument that consanguinuity is not specifically protected or allowed for here, and that sec.3 could be used to support a law against it.




e:http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/



e2: vvvv get a room you two vvvv

It also doesn't specifically protect gay marriage either.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Fister Roboto posted:

It also doesn't specifically protect gay marriage either.

It's probably easier to interpretate the term family as excluding incestuous relations than it is to interpretate it as covering gay marriages, though.

Slush Garbo
Nov 20, 2007

FALSE SLACK
is
BETTER
than
NO SLACK

Fister Roboto posted:

It also doesn't specifically protect gay marriage either.

true. it does not. sec.3 could be used to justify gay marriage prohibition



someone call Bono



e: vvvv you monster vvvvv

Slush Garbo fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Sep 28, 2014

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

building pillow forts with my sister

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Fister Roboto posted:

Then why are incest laws necessary to prevent it?

hmm don't know what your asking and I don't care. Incest is bad and grooming is bad.

Kombotron
Aug 11, 2011
great rear end MOM

joxxuh
May 20, 2011
"who are we to judge someone's morals?" - head judge of German ethics panel

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Miltank posted:

hmm don't know what your asking and I don't care. Incest is bad and grooming is bad.

Agreed, so is gay sex, according to many, or even most.

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

Fister Roboto posted:

Agreed, so is gay sex, according to many, or even most.

Seriously, you've got a real problem with the homos, so why not strike a blow for "independent conservatism" by going down and splitting someone's skull open with a golf club. Spit in the face of government tyranny and the gay agenda at the same time. Don't let the fag cops arrest you either.

vyst
Aug 25, 2009



So hypothetical what is more morally acceptable - loving my gay brother or loving my mom?

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Fog Tripper posted:

Seriously, you've got a real problem with the homos, so why not strike a blow for "independent conservatism" by going down and splitting someone's skull open with a golf club. Spit in the face of government tyranny and the gay agenda at the same time. Don't let the fag cops arrest you either.

I think he is trying to say that hating motherfuckers is just like hating gays.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Miltank posted:

I think he is trying to say that hating motherfuckers is just like hating gays.

No, I weighed the miniscule chance that I could talk Fog Tripper into suicide-by-cop against the benefits it would bring to the world, and posted.

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

Effectronica posted:

No, I weighed the miniscule chance that I could talk Fog Tripper into suicide-by-cop against the benefits it would bring to the world, and posted.

Sadly I do not have anything against consenting adults having sex. So you are blowing your load for naught.

Also you personally are a freak and not a representation of the average homosexual.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

vyst posted:

So hypothetical what is more morally acceptable - loving my gay brother or loving my mom?

I think loving your gay brother is like a 9.5/10 on the list of weird poo poo you shouldn't do, but loving your mom or dad is a full 10.

But who am I to judge?

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Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

PT6A posted:

I think loving your gay brother is like a 9.5/10 on the list of weird poo poo you shouldn't do, but loving your mom or dad is a full 10.

But who am I to judge?

where are animals and corpses on your list?

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