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When Gordon got distracted and Cobblepot disappeared my first thought was how this was foreshadowing for what always happens between Commissioner Gordon and Batman. My second thought was the hilarious mental image of Cobblepot stealthily waddling away, at which point I couldn't help but hear Burgess Meridith going,"Waaak waaak waaaak." 
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pentyne posted:There's one major thing they can do fix this show, get rid of the Barbara/Gordon heart to hearts in the palatial penthouse apartment. Every scene with them its her staring at something drinking wine then dramatically talking to Gordon and is wildly out of tone with the rest of the show and seems forced at best. Go back to the first scene with Barbara in this last episode and look how much loving wine she's drinking. There's like half a bottle in that glass!
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Oct 14, 2014 09:42
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Jerusalem posted:When Gordon got distracted and Cobblepot disappeared my first thought was how this was foreshadowing for what always happens between Commissioner Gordon and Batman. My second thought was the hilarious mental image of Cobblepot stealthily waddling away, at which point I couldn't help but hear Burgess Meridith going,"Waaak waaak waaaak." Nah, you see him book it.   That's penguin sneaking away over Gordon's right shoulder. It'd be much more obvious as a gif, but I don't know how to make them. The Duke posted:Go back to the first scene with Barbara in this last episode and look how much loving wine she's drinking. There's like half a bottle in that glass! The entire Barbara plot seem really stupid. The cop who thinks Gordon is dirty happens to be his wife's ex-lover, and said cop also in an enormous breach of ethics and protocol confronts Barbara and tells her that Gordon executed a man in cold blood yet offers no proof other then "we just know". Is that sense of drama really needed? What does Montoya being involved in Gordon's life that way add anything interesting to their dynamic? As a Major Crimes cop she could just investigate him normally and harass him without have to have been a past lesbian lover. And as hard as Gotham is leaning on comic book references and classic Batman characters, you'd think instead of Gordon being married to extremely wealthy art dealer in some obscenely huge penthouse he'd have a regular middle-class life like he does in every single other adaptation. pentyne fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Oct 14, 2014 |
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Oct 14, 2014 09:54
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As someone who was engaged to a wine distributor for 7 years i should know this, but why are the glasses so drat big?
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Oct 14, 2014 09:55
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Rocksicles posted:As someone who was engaged to a wine distributor for 7 years i should know this, but why are the glasses so drat big? I'm assuming to let the aroma gather in the empty space between the liquid surface and the rim. Also when swilling it the larger the surface area of wine exposed the more aromatics are released.
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Oct 14, 2014 10:01
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pentyne posted:Nah, you see him book it. I know he waddles away, but Gordon is turned away for like a second and when he turns back Cobblepot has presumably complete disappeared from view on a wide open and lengthy street/alley - otherwise why would Gordon let him get away if he was only a few feet away, waddling along in plain sight? pentyne posted:It'd be much more obvious as a gif, but I don't know how to make them.  
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Oct 14, 2014 10:18
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pentyne posted:I'm assuming to let the aroma gather in the empty space between the liquid surface and the rim. Also when swilling it the larger the surface area of wine exposed the more aromatics are released. Never bothered to learn because i can't stand the stuff. Makes sense i suppose.
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Oct 14, 2014 10:44
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Rocksicles posted:Never bothered to learn because i can't stand the stuff. Makes sense i suppose. I like wine more than I like beer, but it tends to make me all gassy and gurgly in the belly which I assume is not the feeling people who actually enjoy wine are enjoying.
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Oct 14, 2014 10:54
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 So apparently Gotham is Vancouver but backwards.
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Oct 14, 2014 12:31
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Everyone being reverse-Canadians would explain why they're so rude.
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Oct 14, 2014 12:43
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Wheezle posted:
I guess they didn't have the budget to press the 'labels' button in google earth?
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Oct 14, 2014 13:01
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So the Waynes both opposed any kind of psychological treatment for young Bruce, while believing in it enough to fund a major development of Arkham?
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Oct 14, 2014 13:48
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Eddain posted:Yeah but if the girl's willing to do anything to make it big why not double cross Fish and be Falcone's mole? Usually you're not going to trust someone who was so eager to double cross their first boss.
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Oct 14, 2014 13:49
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I actually thought this was a better episode than the stuff before it, particularly because of more Penguin being Penguin and Jada Pinkett Smith dialing down the histrionics, but it seems determined to be aggressively stupid and assert that dead bodies don't smell, which combined with the fact that a drinking game of a vodka shot for every "Jim Gordon" would be lethal, makes it a bad show. I watched the later seasons of Heroes, so I have no standards and will continue to watch, but... oy.
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Oct 14, 2014 16:48
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Rocksicles posted:Can't believe some people haven't put together Fish's plan. Nor is it brain science. I'm not saying I don't get where that all is going. She comes right out and states what she wants her new girl to do. I just didn't care for the over-the-top-yet-morbidly-ridiculous way in which they put it all together. The more I think about it, the dumber those scenes are. I'm half expecting the next episode to have something like this: Untalented singer chick: "So, you want me to kill this guy? Sure. Do I use a gun or a knife or...." Fish Mooney: "No, if I wanted to do that, I'd use one of my dozens of henchmen to do it. I'm using you to place him in an easily escapable situation involving an overly-elaborate and exotic death."
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Oct 14, 2014 17:21
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The first girl was the bad singer. She was literally one note.
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Oct 14, 2014 17:29
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The Barbara stuff is kind of annoying, but it's also obvious that she's going to leave him, and it looks like they might get to that sooner than later. If so, great, problem solved. I'm finding Oswald Cobblepot to be so likable that he's the character on the show I'm rooting for. If it just becomes the Pengiun show, I'd be pretty ok with that.
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Oct 14, 2014 17:49
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Almost Human was cancelled so that this show could exist.
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Oct 14, 2014 18:55
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pookerbug posted:Almost Human was cancelled so that this show could exist. I'm not sure if you are saying that is good or bad. 
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Oct 14, 2014 19:04
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Maroni is an idiot. So from his point of view, he thinks Penguin saved part of his money. Maroni's goons followed Penguin's bloody footprints to the fridge. This means that the robbers came in, killed everyone in the room, and then Penguin came in and saved some of the money from being stolen. Did nobody think about why they would just leave a bag of money and not take the whole thing?
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Oct 14, 2014 19:49
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pookerbug posted:Almost Human was cancelled so that this show could exist. ... would I trade it for a second season of Almost Human? In a heartbeat. I loved that show.
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Oct 14, 2014 20:09
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Detective No. 27 posted:Maroni is an idiot. So from his point of view, he thinks Penguin saved part of his money. Maroni's goons followed Penguin's bloody footprints to the fridge. This means that the robbers came in, killed everyone in the room, and then Penguin came in and saved some of the money from being stolen. Did nobody think about why they would just leave a bag of money and not take the whole thing? I guess the "idea" is that the order of events was this: 1) Shooting starts. People begin to bleed and die. 2) Penguin, as the shooting is going on, realizes that it's a robbery, grabs a bag of money, and hides--walking through blood in the process. 3) The shooters hold their fire and grab all the money they can see. They are in too much of a hurry to notice the footprints and they didn't know how much money was there in the first place, so they didn't know anything was missing. 4) Maroni arrives and finds Penguin and some of his money. He then calls the other gang a bunch of farging iceholes, declares fargin' war, and swears he'll get his revenge on those bastages.
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tarlibone posted:4) Maroni arrives and finds Penguin and some of his money. He then calls the other gang a bunch of farging iceholes, declares fargin' war, and swears he'll get his revenge on those bastages. Johnny Dangerously was such good movie.
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Today's Joker reference is: "You're the crown prince of parking lot muggers." I hope someone is writing these down somewhere for posterity. I'm convinced that Barbara only exists in Gordon's imagination. It's the only logical explanation here. Arkham City? Oh for the love of 
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I also really loved the Barbara\Gordon secrets conversation: I'm so hurt you have secrets from me, Jim! *drops major bomb of a secret that old what's her name from MCU is her former lover and they've been meeting behind his back* And without a hint of irony.
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Krad posted:I'm convinced that Barbara only exists in Gordon's imagination. It's the only logical explanation here. Come here Barbara Jr., daddy has a secret to tell you.
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TheBizzness posted:I also really loved the Barbara\Gordon secrets conversation: I'm so hurt you have secrets from me, Jim! *drops major bomb of a secret that old what's her name from MCU is her former lover and they've been meeting behind his back* Also, didn't Barbara leak information to the press in the pilot? It's dumb that a cop's wife/girlfriend is expecting them to spill all of the details of the cases they are working on over dinner or something.
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gninjagnome posted:Also, didn't Barbara leak information to the press in the pilot? Yet Gordon talks freely about his cases with a kid.
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Oct 15, 2014 01:03
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Eddain posted:Yet Gordon talks freely about his cases with a kid. Dude, that kid is Batman.
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Oct 15, 2014 01:10
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This show is legitimately a DC comic book.
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Oct 15, 2014 01:42
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Is Bruce Gordon's best friend?
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Oct 15, 2014 03:18
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I really hope Gordon gives Bruce a bright red cell phone.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Maroni is an idiot. So from his point of view, he thinks Penguin saved part of his money. Maroni's goons followed Penguin's bloody footprints to the fridge. This means that the robbers came in, killed everyone in the room, and then Penguin came in and saved some of the money from being stolen. Did nobody think about why they would just leave a bag of money and not take the whole thing? What do you expect, he spent 8 years completely oblivious to the fact that his co-worker was a serial killer despite insurmountable evidence right under his nose.
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Oct 15, 2014 04:25
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How did Gordon get his gun back to shoot the assassin?
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Oct 15, 2014 04:39
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Your man dropped it.
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Lord Krangdar posted:Is Bruce Gordon's best friend? Seriously, as far as we've seen he has nobody else at all. The other cops don't like him because he's such a stickler for the rules. He and his partner barely manage to keep a working relationship going. Barbara just seems to want him to spill insider info to help further her journalism career, and they aren't getting along now. (and probably never will) Bruce, Selina, and Oswald are the closest thing he has to actual friends in the world. Two heavily damaged kids and a psychopath are all he's got, and of those three I think Bruce is the only mutual friendship there, however stiff and formal it is. Gordon could maybe consider Selina as something of a friend, and Oswald likes to consider Gordon a friend, but both of those are one-way streets so far. Wow. That's depressing now that I think of it. Lord Krangdar posted:I thought she owned an art gallery or something. Wait, you're right, she does run an art gallery, or would if she ever left that apartment. So I guess she just pumps Gordon for information to spill to the media... For fun? I think my brain just wanted to assume she had a good reason, but no, you're right she just does that poo poo. Robot Hobo fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Oct 15, 2014 |
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Oct 15, 2014 05:31
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Robot Hobo posted:Barbara just seems to want him to spill insider info to help further her journalism career, and they arent' getting along now. I thought she owned an art gallery or something.
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^^^ - She has to, because there's no way a cop not on the take would be able to afford a home like that.Robot Hobo posted:Best? Try only. you're mistaking friends for responsibilities and obligations. Don't worry, I'm sure a lot of other people mistake speaking to someone through work with actually being their friend.
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Drifter posted:^^^ - She has to, because there's no way a cop not on the take would be able to afford a home like that. Yeah, they said its her place. Also she's a Kane, a super rich family in the source material.
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Lord Krangdar posted:Yeah, they said its her place. Also she's a Kane, a super rich family in the source material. So did they actually break up? That's kinda what I got from that last argument. Where's he going to live now? Roomies with Oswald.
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