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Metal Loaf posted:Related thing about KOTOR II; there's some talk that crops up from time to time in the Star Wars thread in the Book Barn about how Drew Karpshyn (head writer for KOTOR) really disliked KOTOR II and went out of his way to trash it in his TOR tie-ins. Yeah, I have Revan but never read it. I heard it takes a big dump on Meetra Surik (The eventual given name of the KOTOR 2 PC). Which sucks because thats a character that I wish there was more stuff of, not just her ghost in the TOR MMO. I love the idea of a war hero who is responsible for a heinous act living in exile, or the tear down of the hypocrisy of a noble, pacifist order. Now we just need a story of a heroic Sith Lord* and the Star Wars Deconstruction trifecta will be complete. *If I had the talent and the money I would basically make House of Cards but with a Sith Lord that was more than just a generic cartoon villain. All I wan't from my Star Wars stories at this point is Nuance beyond Good VS Evil, which I know is kind of asking a lot. The main reason I love KOTOR 2 though is it takes what the Jedi do to Revan in KOTOR 1 and follow the logical conclusion of what that means. BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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https://twitter.com/RolloT/status/525816377425526784 Rollo  Also Anita probably started a whole new shitstorm with this tweet https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/525793436025118721 She is right and its going to suck how much more extreme the assholes are going to get because they think she is saying that every man is a potential school shooter. achillesforever6 fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Jay O posted:It's being really good to me so far, so I can't complain. How much do you think that's a result of your prior internet following vs. the appeal of the idea itself? I guess what I'm actually asking is, how well do visual novels tend to do on Kickstarter?
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achillesforever6 posted:Also Anita probably started a whole new shitstorm with this tweet Uuuuuuuuuuuh. What? "This is just asking for more abuse, no matter how factual and directly relevant to both recent events and her own life it may be." Well, now we all know why Lindsay blocked you from her twitter.  You prooooobably said something like that to her without thinking about it. I know you didn't mean anything awful by it, but it would do you good to think a little more before you words, because it sounds awful.Hbomberguy posted:How much do you think that's a result of your prior internet following vs. the appeal of the idea itself? I guess what I'm actually asking is, how well do visual novels tend to do on Kickstarter? It depends. My twitter following/buddies gave it the jumpstart in the first two days, certainly, but that ran out pretty quick. At this point it's people I don't know from sources I don't know who are not familiar with my work pledging and showing interest, so that's a good sign.  Haven't even mentioned the KS on TGWTG yet, either! So I think people have genuine faith in the creation and it's not just people strokin' my dick. At least I hope so!The average visual novel has much lower funding goals (usually between 2k and 10k,) so yeah, I'm aiming high and (so far) hitting high on this one. The long-rear end demo probably helps. Jay O fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Jay O posted:Uuuuuuuuuuuh. What? But you are right, sometimes I do post before I think and it makes me look like an rear end in a top hat. Tracula posted:"asking for it" are three words that should never be put together in that order.
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How big is the market for Visual novels in the US? I remember only really hearing about the ones that are either fan translated passion projects by fans or ones that were REALLY popular, usually on the DS or PSP.
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BigRed0427 posted:How big is the market for Visual novels in the US? I remember only really hearing about the ones that are either fan translated passion projects by fans or ones that were REALLY popular, usually on the DS or PSP. By and large, it's still not all that big even if there's more exposure to the format through games like the Phoenix Wright series and Virtue's Last Reward, and the ever so infamous, Dangan Ronpa. Some companies are taking on the task of trying to get more visual novels over to the US last time I checked and VN making has become a bigger hobby, but even with free source engines like the widely used Ren'Py and the lesser known, Novelty, it's difficult to get even free projects off the ground and completed due to the number of assets that go into a visual novel. (Music, writing, programming, art, etc) There are some indie companies that make visual novels like Sakevisual and Hanako Games!
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e;f,b ^ This is basically the situation, I'll just go into more detail below.BigRed0427 posted:How big is the market for Visual novels in the US? I remember only really hearing about the ones that are either fan translated passion projects by fans or ones that were REALLY popular, usually on the DS or PSP. The better question is "how small," and the answer to that is VERY. IT'S VERY TINY. It's a niche of a niche of a niche in the west. It's at a place in the English-speaking world right now where it was basically in the very early 2000s in Japan. (Right now, the market in Japan is oversaturated, the "boom period" for VNs and eroge was 2007-2008 and the market got flooded with too many crappy bishoujo games too fast, so now it's much harder for startups to get noticed by making a cheap game, and you have better luck pandering to the otome or fujoshi market than the boys' club.) The "really popular" games you're talking about are all Japanese in origin. There are no truly "really popular" English-language visual novels yet. Closest is Katawa Shojo, and that's still purty small. Here, it's all a big question mark, but my hope and wish is that it's juuuuust about to explode and all the medium needs is a few big, quality hits. The format's biggest problem right now is twofold: overreliance on copying the Japanese way of doing things, and a glut of terrific artists and programmers working vs. very few good writers. Quality stuff, when it gets made, gets noticed fast, like Katawa Shojo, the greatest contributor to the rise of English-language visual novel production, and Cinders, which has gotten modest but powerful recognition in the indie-game world, and does technically call itself a "visual novel," despite not having CGs or anime-styled art or any other surface-level VN trappings. The struggle at this point is trying to pinpoint the direction in which the format will explode. Fiscally, visual novels are already having a beaucoup of success on mobile platforms, but that's not good for people trying to tell compelling, artistically driven stories with the medium, because these "mobile VNs" are crappy, overpriced "pay by the route" stuff with barely readable grammar, slanted to give women a "porn game experience without the porn" on iPhone and Android, (and I'll get to that female audience base in a minute,) which is fine in its own right, but if that becomes the dominant image of VNs in the west and the only thing people want from them or think they're capable of, that's no good. So I think the higher-end PC and Mac stuff is important. We need more stuff like Cinders and even Katawa Shojo, because even those one-game releases have already pushed the medium forward fast in terms of recognition and player expectations. The biggest difference between the birth of visual novel creation in Japan and the US, though? In Japan, it was product by dudes, for dudes, that dominated the market from the get-go, only becoming more diverse over time. In the west, both the content creators and content audience is predominantly female right now! (Maybe it's the "book-like" self-introspection combined with vicarious fantasy aesthetic of the medium, in contrast to the male-dominated, achievement-heavy, and often exclusionary hardcore gaming scene...? Who knows! Maybe it's just coincidence.) It's a difference that I find pretty cool, at least. Jay O fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Compendium posted:By and large, it's still not all that big even if there's more exposure to the format through games like the Phoenix Wright series and Virtue's Last Reward, and the ever so infamous, Dangan Ronpa. Some companies are taking on the task of trying to get more visual novels over to the US last time I checked and VN making has become a bigger hobby, but even with free source engines like the widely used Ren'Py and the lesser known, Novelty, it's difficult to get even free projects off the ground and completed due to the number of assets that go into a visual novel. (Music, writing, programming, art, etc) I just looked up Dangan Ronpa. Why is it infamous? The premises from wikipedia sounds interesting. How bad is it on a scale of 1 to Cross Ange?
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BigRed0427 posted:I just looked up Dangan Ronpa. Why is it infamous? The premises from wikipedia sounds interesting. How bad is it on a scale of 1 to Cross Ange? It's one of those things where it's infamous for the fanbase, not the content.
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Idran posted:It's one of those things where it's infamous for the fanbase, not the content. Yeah the content's fine. I kinda got a kick out of it! It's irreverent "battle royale" hijinks that don't take themselves very seriously, and I can appreciate that. It's gallows humor in good taste. I'm not sure why the fanbase is so terrible, but it's probably the same reason that the Death Note fanbase was so horrific even though that show was pretty silly and accessible too. It's that "Hot Topic-y" crowd, I guess.
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achillesforever6 posted:https://twitter.com/RolloT/status/525816377425526784 I will say it more with the shity financial and stigmata with mental health in the US (sandy hook) and bullying but it does have a effect to the mind of men to "Be men" and i hate that term since most people think of 1950's "beat up the kid who called you fat" problem solving. Cyron fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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I loving love Danganronpa. Both games were gripping, and I recommend them to most people (I also recommend not looking up anything, since it's very difficult to avoid spoilers for them). I do hope Another Episode gets an English release.
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BreakAtmo posted:I loving love Danganronpa. Both games were gripping, and I recommend them to most people (I also recommend not looking up anything, since it's very difficult to avoid spoilers for them). I do hope Another Episode gets an English release. poo poo, forgot to mention that this is coincidentally connected to the game I'm kickstarting. The character of Danielle in Lovely Little Thieves was based on Junko from Danganronpa, as one of a few homages to good visual novels I'm trying to sprinkle into mine.   It's a very mild resemblance, cuz I didn't want to rip anything off. But there you go. It's visual certainly, but they also have some surprise "personality problems" in common...
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Idran posted:It's one of those things where it's infamous for the fanbase, not the content. 
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Idran posted:It's one of those things where it's infamous for the fanbase, not the content. Yeah that was one that leaked into the LP thread for a while when it was running (at the time, Orenronen's LP was pretty much the only english translation of it iirc), which lead to a bunch of probations and bans for shared accounts (along with tumblr-esque level posting) because they didn't want to individually drop the  on accounts while the LP subforum was paywalled. The actual game itself is pretty fun.
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Jay O posted:poo poo, forgot to mention that this is coincidentally connected to the game I'm kickstarting. The character of Danielle in Lovely Little Thieves was based on Junko from Danganronpa, as one of a few homages to good visual novels I'm trying to sprinkle into mine.
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Metal Loaf posted:I wonder how things would've played out if they'd been able to follow through on their original plan for Kreia to turn Atris to the dark side to take her place as Darth Traya. Frankly, I'm not sure what the end game for the Kreia character was going to be in that scenario. You can always try to Restored Content Patch.
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I just watched Kyle's review of Blue. I have to give credit to Kyle, I would have dismissed that movie as something stupid. I'm not against that sort of stuff, I even defend John Cage, but I wouldn't have seen anything in the film. He did an extremely good job of making his case. Especially about the history of making paint and reminding me about the historical value of indigo. I never really connected its value to the use of blues in historical art. It's kind of like aluminum. If you went back to the 1800s and showed them the aluminum cans you're taking to the recycling plant they would have been pretty amazed.
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Hey Jay-O, I seen you post a small bit about this show, but what is your verdet on sword art online? I am a huge MMO gamer and would personally love to see a good MMO based show but SAO seem just seem dumb to me. it feels like a transparent as it can be power fantasy, where this bland as hell kid is not only the best player in the game but have a ton of romance subplots. it seem like it someone's world of Warcraft fanfic where their character is the main protagonist where he is stronger then the lich king!
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Cyron posted:Hey Jay-O, I seen you post a small bit about this show, but what is your verdet on sword art online? I am a huge MMO gamer and would personally love to see a good MMO based show but SAO seem just seem dumb to me. it feels like a transparent as it can be power fantasy, where this bland as hell kid is not only the best player in the game but have a ton of romance subplots. it seem like it someone's world of Warcraft fanfic where their character is the main protagonist where he is stronger then the lich king! Sword Art Online is dumb and gross, but you know what it isn't? Boring. In the grand expanse of poorly-paced lore-dump anime, Sword Art Online pulled in a wider berth of nerdy teens who want to watch a self-insert Gary Stu hack his way to victory in a VRMMO, and it did it with an almost too-fast pace that explained almost too-little, but gosh-darn it, it was fun and easy to watch! I don't hate Sword Art Online. I don't like it. The writing is terrible and the Fairy Dance stuff was really disgusting, albeit in a "this was written by a 12-year old who maybe wants to touch a boob some day" way, but it was a memorable fad to follow and laugh at, so I can't really hate it much either. It's a bad show. It's a bad show that's pretty fun to watch. If you want an in-depth MMO-based show that's actually good, GO WATCH LOG HORIZON. (Never mind the completely ridiculous theme song.) It is the nerdiest and most immersive MMO anime in the universe without being boring, and I think you might like it.
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Jsor posted:I just watched Kyle's review of Blue. I have to give credit to Kyle, I would have dismissed that movie as something stupid. I'm not against that sort of stuff, I even defend John Cage, but I wouldn't have seen anything in the film. He did an extremely good job of making his case. Especially about the history of making paint and reminding me about the historical value of indigo. I never really connected its value to the use of blues in historical art. Same for me. And I just realized, that's also part of the premise of Sacre Bleu by Christopher Moore. I'm not sure if I'll ever see Blue, but this does make me more intrigued about Moore's book. It also makes me regret taking Color: A Natural History of the Palette to a used bookstore.
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achillesforever6 posted:Also Anita probably started a whole new shitstorm with this tweet I roll my eyes at detractors of Anita but this is a pretty dumb tweet. Maybe I'm just on edge cause today a woman accompanied a man and shot a few cops, shot a man before stealing his car then stealing another along a route I often take during work. Never before have I listened so intently to the radio cause if these people decided to go eastwards instead of northeast to auburn I would of ran into that. MonsieurChoc posted:You can always try to Restored Content Patch. Scorchy's LP is pretty good for accessing cut content if you don't want to play through the game yourself.
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Jay O posted:Sword Art Online is dumb and gross, but you know what it isn't? Boring. In the grand expanse of poorly-paced lore-dump anime, Sword Art Online pulled in a wider berth of nerdy teens who want to watch a self-insert Gary Stu hack his way to victory in a VRMMO, and it did it with an almost too-fast pace that explained almost too-little, but gosh-darn it, it was fun and easy to watch! I don't hate Sword Art Online. I don't like it. The writing is terrible and the Fairy Dance stuff was really disgusting, albeit in a "this was written by a 12-year old who maybe wants to touch a boob some day" way, but it was a memorable fad to follow and laugh at, so I can't really hate it much either. It's a bad show. It's a bad show that's pretty fun to watch.
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What I'm most excited for SFDebris to tackle in the future is the last 2 (hell maybe 3 by the time he does it) seasons of Korra. It's really interesting to watch the show go from okay to terrible to fantastic in the span of 3 seasons. Season 4is looking really good too.
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Jay O posted:Sword Art Online is dumb and gross, but you know what it isn't? Boring. In the grand expanse of poorly-paced lore-dump anime, Sword Art Online pulled in a wider berth of nerdy teens who want to watch a self-insert Gary Stu hack his way to victory in a VRMMO, and it did it with an almost too-fast pace that explained almost too-little, but gosh-darn it, it was fun and easy to watch! I don't hate Sword Art Online. I don't like it. The writing is terrible and the Fairy Dance stuff was really disgusting, albeit in a "this was written by a 12-year old who maybe wants to touch a boob some day" way, but it was a memorable fad to follow and laugh at, so I can't really hate it much either. It's a bad show. It's a bad show that's pretty fun to watch. I have watched log horizon for a bit but fell out due to real life drama, i did like the show since i felt the writers played a MMO and know it sub culture moreso then SAO. i love how log horazon have different guilds from the hardcore raiders to cute and fun rp guild. Cyron fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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OldTennisCourt posted:What I'm most excited for SFDebris to tackle in the future is the last 2 (hell maybe 3 by the time he does it) seasons of Korra. It's really interesting to watch the show go from okay to terrible to fantastic in the span of 3 seasons. Season 4is looking really good too. I keep seeing this. I may have to go back and watch it. The Finale of Season 1 absolutely killed any enthusiasm I had for the show. That god drat ending where Kora got her powers back for no reason other than "oh poo poo guys we might not have a next season wrap this plot thread up!" I know it's overdramatic but it killed the show so hard for me.
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Jsor posted:I keep seeing this. I may have to go back and watch it. The Finale of Season 1 absolutely killed any enthusiasm I had for the show. That god drat ending where Kora got her powers back for no reason other than "oh poo poo guys we might not have a next season wrap this plot thread up!" I know it's overdramatic but it killed the show so hard for me. Season 1 ends in a way that it feels like they thought it was one season thing. Season 2 is really pretty garbage aside from the tale of the First Avatar which is pretty amazing. It does this really weird thing where it builds up pretty easily THE BIGGEST villain in the entire franchise, like the literal embodiment of darkness and evil, a being who wants to create an Anti-Avatar, and it falls flat on it's face. Also the animation is really bad at points. Season 3 has INCREDIBLY strong villains that are written well, some outstanding fight scenes which are animated beautifully, a really well written story that gets really loving dark near the end and it ends on a surprisingly dour note. Oh and Henry Rollins voices the main villain. Season 4 is just as good even if it just started, with a villain that's shaping up to be someone that Korra can't just beat up since she's dealing with a pretty delicate political situation.
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Jsor posted:I keep seeing this. I may have to go back and watch it. The Finale of Season 1 absolutely killed any enthusiasm I had for the show. That god drat ending where Kora got her powers back for no reason other than "oh poo poo guys we might not have a next season wrap this plot thread up!" I know it's overdramatic but it killed the show so hard for me. I've blown my horn too much already on this no doubt, but I disagree with the "SEASON THREE IS WHERE IT GETS GOOD" thing. No fulfilling character arcs, more lovely attempts at political commentary, more lovely attempts at romance, lots of loving around and time-wasting, the humor is once again painfully unfunny...meander, meander, meander, What Is The Point of This, also Stop Adding Characters, Stooooop, You Have Too Many. It's not STUPID-bad like season 2, it's just dull-bad. Korra hasn't been any good since the first few episodes of season one (remember when Bolin wasn't a noxious waste of space?) and the outlying Wan episodes of season two (which were actually written during Avatar, so natch.) It's just a completely joyless show to me, neither complex enough for adults nor simple enough for children, and I'm not remotely surprised they pulled it from television. Ratings only ever went down with the exception of the Wan episodes, and nobody was really watching it except the hardcore fans...and they were watching it online, either streaming or pirating it.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:Season 3 isn't when Korra gets good. It's when Korra gets amazing. I need to make a chart of the plot threads and character arcs in season three and where they (don't) go. I said I would do this once the season ended and haven't yet. But seriously, almost nothing is resolved satisfactorily in that season! Nothing! For such a "deep and serious" season, almost nothing of value is said either, except more of the creators' weirdly libertarian creepy bullshit that I hoped we were done with in season one. (Hey look, ANOTHER strawman villain who wants equality for all against a strawman evil despot and it turns out OH NO THAT JUST LEADS TO ANARCHY IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE NOT-SPECIAL-BENDER PEOPLE ARE FOOLS WHO NEED TO BE LED GENTLY, AM I WATCHING THE DARK KNIGHT RISES OR SOMETHING?) Bleh. Bleeeeeeh. For what it's worth, I really liked episode 2 of season 4. It had very little dialogue, and was purely a character piece focusing on Korra and her control issues as a very real flaw, which is something they should have done at the end of season one and are really just now getting to. But then it went back to being poo-poo in episode 3, so oh well. But I'm not biased toward the material or anything! Sometimes it is good like the Wan episodes and episode 2 of season 4. But most of the time, it's...bad. Really bad.
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As someone pointed out in the Korra thread, Season 2 kind of shits on the Avatar lore by making the Avatar the beacon of goodness/light rather than balance. The opposite of the Avatar is literally ultimate evil that wants to destroy everything, rather than chaos and change to harmony and tradition. It was pretty dumb. Season 3 is far more entertaining. A lot of nice character moments, really great action and interesting if underdeveloped villains. But yeah, season 3 isn't perfect because, like Jay O said, there's pretty much very little in way of character development and "Team Avatar" is just kind of background noise that are defined by their relationship with Korra rather than being developed characters. This 13 episode season nonsense really hurt their ability to tell a story. If you want solid storytelling that doesn't waste time, Rick and Morty is a pretty fantastic show. It's episodic rather than serial but each episode is so tightly packed and everything resolves at the end it's fantastic. I'm glad a friend of mine told me about that show, it quickly became one of my favorites.
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Jimbot posted:If you want solid storytelling that doesn't waste time, Rick and Morty is a pretty fantastic show. It's episodic rather than serial but each episode is so tightly packed and everything resolves at the end it's fantastic. I'm glad a friend of mine told me about that show, it quickly became one of my favorites. AGREED. Rick and Morty >>>>>>>>>>>> Korra. Also, Steven Universe. Steven Universe >>> Rick and Morty >>>>>>>>>>>> Korra. In my opinion. And both SU and Rick n' Morty use a purely episodic format to build a larger overall narrative and powerful themes. Instead of having a big distended soap opera where people sit around and spit exposition and "this is my character trait!" at each other before breaking for a fight scene and building to not anything impactful at all. Like in Korra. ... <  >Look, my solitary post in the TVIV Korra thread is directly responsible for the thread's title for two ongoing seasons now, let's put it that way. I loved Avatar too much. I ain't got no patience for Korra's crappy storytelling. It is tragically my hot button. Jay O fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Jimbot posted:As someone pointed out in the Korra thread, Season 2 kind of shits on the Avatar lore by making the Avatar the beacon of goodness/light rather than balance. The opposite of the Avatar is literally ultimate evil that wants to destroy everything, rather than chaos and change to harmony and tradition. It was pretty dumb. Season 3 is far more entertaining. A lot of nice character moments, really great action and interesting if underdeveloped villains. But yeah, season 3 isn't perfect because, like Jay O said, there's pretty much very little in way of character development and "Team Avatar" is just kind of background noise that are defined by their relationship with Korra rather than being developed characters. This 13 episode season nonsense really hurt their ability to tell a story. Jay O posted:AGREED. Rick and Morty >>>>>>>>>>>> Korra. Also, Steven Universe. Steven Universe >>> Rick and Morty >>>>>>>>>>>> Korra. In my opinion. achillesforever6 fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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I'm not gonna agree that Season 3 of Korra is bad, but I will agree that Rick and Morty is absolutely phenomenal and might just be the best show in Adult Swim history, neck and neck with Venture Brothers. I contend that Rixty Minutes and M-Night Shaym-Aleisn are two of the funniest episodes of TV of the entire year. It is sort of funny how we got both the best AS show this year along with the worst AS Show. Mr. Pickles is loving garbage. Though my contention is this: Rick and Morty >>>Gravity Falls >>>> Korra Gravity Falls is a pretty great show guys.
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Episode 5 and 6 of Rick and Morty are my favorite because they're both the most touching and darkest in that show (so far). It's a screwball and surreal comedy show but the heartfelt moments in 5 and the demented dark things in 6 really stood out and had weight to them because they didn't always happen and when they did they went all the way with the writing.
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OldTennisCourt posted:I'm not gonna agree that Season 3 of Korra is bad, but I will agree that Rick and Morty is absolutely phenomenal and might just be the best show in Adult Swim history, neck and neck with Venture Brothers. I contend that Rixty Minutes and M-Night Shaym-Aleisn are two of the funniest episodes of TV of the entire year. It is sort of funny how we got both the best AS show this year along with the worst AS Show. Mr. Pickles is loving garbage. However what makes Gravity Falls god tier are the shorts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEe-F0JID3E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBFAF4W_vmI
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