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Godholio posted:Verified how? Most spare parts aren't made of thermite. I'm helping with a book on the subject, this was from an interview with the involved pilot. There's a lot of good material on the whole Libya thing that's only going to come out starting now, due in no small part to the fact that many of the pilots involved refused to be named and interviewed until the fall of the Qadhafi regime. There was a very real fear that Qadhafi would attempt revenge killings.
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Red Crown posted:I'm helping with a book on the subject, this was from an interview with the involved pilot. See, that's how you know it's bullshit.
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Oct 24, 2014 15:26
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Oil refinery? That was a sewage treatment works.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:See, that's how you know it's bullshit. Yeah, unless there's corroborating gun camera film or post-strike BDA, I'm going to have a tough time swallowing a story that's the epitome of "So there I was..."
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Oct 24, 2014 17:21
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Video of a restored P-51 Mustang with operational .50 cal machine guns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niJ82YCiuYU They sounds glorious. e: More info about the plane: http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/this-p-51-mustang-restoration-includes-operational-50c-1647964258
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Oct 24, 2014 17:55
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Sadly, the P51 has been rendered obsolete by the F16s armed with 32 Mavericks, 8 Sidewinder, and the Hades. That's loving awesome, someone make a 109 and let's fight
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Dark Helmut posted:Sadly, the P51 has been rendered obsolete by the F16s armed with 32 Mavericks, 8 Sidewinder, and the Hades. Your F16s won't even be able to turn on after a nuke EMPs their computers  . Coincidentally, I'd love to see that happen in a movie. Hey Hollywood, post apocalyptic P-51s dog fighting against North Korean fighter jets and winning please, thanks.
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Oct 24, 2014 19:46
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Battleship 2: Now with authentic P-51s flying in formation over the Mississippi, also crewed by the hardest dudes we could find in the nursing home. Fuckit, I'd get plastered and watch it. the first one was hilarious even if it didn't try to be. Battleship drifting Arrath fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Oct 24, 2014 |
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Oct 24, 2014 19:48
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:Your F16s won't even be able to turn on after a nuke EMPs their computers I think this exists in cartoon form. Either that or childhood me halucinated a lot. I just remember it involved some kind of warp gate thing or something and loving awesome WW2 airplanes flown by crusty old vets and it was pretty much every nation and they were all kicking the living poo poo out of aliens or soemthing. It was pretty much (  +  ) ^  rolled up and then smoked through a spitfire's carburetor.
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Oct 24, 2014 19:50
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Wasn't that movie called Iron Eagle III? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2DAry5gaY0
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Cyrano4747 posted:I think this exists in cartoon form. Either that or childhood me halucinated a lot. I just remember it involved some kind of warp gate thing or something and loving awesome WW2 airplanes flown by crusty old vets and it was pretty much every nation and they were all kicking the living poo poo out of aliens or soemthing. I remember this one from ages ago: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080736/
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Dead Reckoning posted:Yeah, unless there's corroborating gun camera film or post-strike BDA, I'm going to have a tough time swallowing a story that's the epitome of "So there I was..." When I go to work next week I'll try to dig up some evidence to corroborate it specifically. The post-strike BDA should be declassified now, and I know we have that sort of thing laying around.
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Hahahahahh holy poo poo I managed to google it up! Turns out it wasn't just WW2 aircraft, indeed most of them were modern jets, although in typical fashion I just hardcore fixated on the old WW2 poo poo. It was Ring Raiders. There was a line of awful little toys and everything. god bless the 80s and the drugs that made this possible posted:Set in the year 1998, the world is on the brink of a cataclysmic war. An organization dedicated to taking over the world, through the brutal use of air power, is about to realize its goal. It is known as the "Skull Squadron", founded by a band of renegades whose planes are capable of time travel. These pilots fall in love with the power they hold and see that they can use their planes to take control of the world. There are always pilots who, twisted by war's cruelties, are willing to join the Skull Squadron, causing it to grow bigger and more dangerous. In the 1990s, Skull Squadron is finally powerful enough to scramble for the master mission in its bid for world domination. edit:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMguVxjSkx0 ~ring raiders~ we're faster than time ~ring raiders~ were faster than crime edit x2: oh hell yes, I KNEW I remembered WW2 being in there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a8kBqV8SiM I remember a young me totally sperging the gently caress out about how they got the F4F's landing gear correct because this was early WW2 and holy poo poo they're actually featuring a Wildcat and not that over-hyped Hellcat bullshit I mean seriously the F4F was fighting off the Japanese when the pilots were still good and of course the F6F had a butt load of kills it's easy when the IJAAF is just throwing waves of trainees at you a la Marianas Turkey Shoot and 
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Oct 24, 2014 21:06
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:Video of a restored P-51 Mustang with operational .50 cal machine guns. My god that must be a big pain in the rear end to set up. Headspace and timing on 6 M2s? Ugh. I pretty rarely had to mess with the timing mechanism behind the trigger plate but I remember hating it immensely.
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Admiral Bosch posted:My god that must be a big pain in the rear end to set up. Headspace and timing on 6 M2s? Ugh. I pretty rarely had to mess with the timing mechanism behind the trigger plate but I remember hating it immensely. Of course the pilot is the one who gets the satisfaction of the massive erection when he gets to light them all off at the same time.
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Oct 24, 2014 21:29
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When I was a little kid I got to sit in the cockpit of one of the fake Kate torpedo bombers used in Tora! Tora! Tora! that arrived early for an airshow. The owners even let me fire off the machine guns.
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Admiral Bosch posted:My god that must be a big pain in the rear end to set up. Headspace and timing on 6 M2s? Ugh. I pretty rarely had to mess with the timing mechanism behind the trigger plate but I remember hating it immensely. It wasn't the biggest chore in the world, if I recall correctly, but it still could be a pain in the butt. Thankfully you didn't have to do it often. Of course, that's assuming you're not doing it the way our master gunner said was the way you're technically supposed to do it: Make an adjustment, put the plate back on and try the trigger, take the plate off, make an adjustment, put the plate back on.... If you do it that way, you're either really bored or you're being graded.
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Admiral Bosch posted:My god that must be a big pain in the rear end to set up. Headspace and timing on 6 M2s? Ugh. I pretty rarely had to mess with the timing mechanism behind the trigger plate but I remember hating it immensely. Imagine the joy it would have been with the 8 M2s that were in the P-47. That said, wouldn't America's titanic logistic system allow maintenance crews to have a stock of ready guns to switch in quickly for ones having issues?
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Also, aren't a lot of the M2s in service today rather old? Like, several decades old? Would stand to reason that they may not have been so troublesome when they were fresh off the assembly line.
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Oct 25, 2014 11:22
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Eh, that's sorta been done before (with the Twin Mustang). Use GAU-19s instead.
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Gotta fit in the wings and be somewhat authentic (No idea if the M3 is actually bigger than the M2)
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Somebody found a bunch of (license built Spanish) 109Gs that have been in a barn in Texas since the 60s after being used for filming apparently. http://www.platinumfighters.com/#!ha-1112-m1l/c12zi 
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Holy poo poo that's some spare parts!
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Party Plane Jones posted:Somebody found a bunch of (license built Spanish) 109Gs that have been in a barn in Texas since the 60s after being used for filming apparently. These actually are cold war aircraft. They are Spanish HA-1112s, an Me-109 with a Merlin engine. The Spanish kept them in service into the early sixties, and the were use in a ground attack role in North Africa. They were acquired for the movie "Battle of Britain", which also made use of their He-111 variant the CASA-2.111. 
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I'm assuming they were reengined as opposed to made new with the Merlins after the war?
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LingcodKilla posted:I'm assuming they were reengined as opposed to made new with the Merlins after the war? Nope, the HA-1112s were new-built aircraft, with surplus engines and props from the UK. The 2.111s were re-engined, though.
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Fearless posted:That said, wouldn't America's titanic logistic system allow maintenance crews to have a stock of ready guns to switch in quickly for ones having issues? After every time you clean the gun, the headspace and timing needs to be reset.
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Fearless posted:Imagine the joy it would have been with the 8 M2s that were in the P-47. Some Hawker Hurricanes, as well as the Hawker Typhoon prototype, were equipped with twelve .303-caliber machine guns.
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Are they as headspace/timing sensitive as M2s, though? It's always fun to hear "test fire test fire test fire!" on the range and then "BLAOW.........................gently caress....."
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mlmp08 posted:Are they as headspace/timing sensitive as M2s, though? No idea. I post here, but I'm more about the planes than the guns. 
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:Video of a restored P-51 Mustang with operational .50 cal machine guns. I'm amazed he was allowed to do that. My understanding is that the FAA takes a dim view of armed aircraft in private hands.
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I was also confused about that. Given that the video shows a paper target with holes in it, I take it they aren't fitted with blank adapters?
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Dead Reckoning posted:I'm amazed he was allowed to do that. My understanding is that the FAA takes a dim view of armed aircraft in private hands. I read an article saying that he is a FFL licensed dealer, only had the real guns installed to test-fire on the ground, and replaced them with the inert weapons for flight. Yeah, he didn't fly around with armed and functional M2s.
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Dude's got a fully armed P-51. What's the FAA gonna do to stop him? Get an Me-262?
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McNally posted:Dude's got a fully armed P-51. What's the FAA gonna do to stop him? Get an Me-262? Maybe? edit: i wish crazy/rich people like Howard Hughes were still around so they could fund an entire fleet of P-51s and Me-262s and make a film about it. Doctor Grape Ape fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Oct 25, 2014 |
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Doctor Grape Ape posted:Maybe? But will it be armed?
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McNally posted:Dude's got a fully armed P-51. What's the FAA gonna do to stop him? Get an Me-262? Good luck with that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDmqwLqiWj0
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McNally posted:Dude's got a fully armed P-51. What's the FAA gonna do to stop him? Get an Me-262? The world's saddest Air National Guard pilot cries a single tear as he's forced to blow a fully restored P-51 out of the sky.
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Dead Reckoning posted:The world's saddest Air National Guard pilot cries a single tear as he's forced to blow a fully restored P-51 out of the sky. Yeah but he'd be flying an Me-262 so he can't be that sad.
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