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St. Dogbert posted:Per the Globe, Ghomeshi's suing the CBC for $50 million. That's, like, its entire funding for the year... with the word "million" attached to the end. So? You can demand whatever amount you want in damages when you file suit; doesn't mean you get anything close it.
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# ? Oct 26, 2014 22:09 |
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The question is what does Jesse Brown know? I've just started listening to his CANADALAND podcast and it's quite good, but he's had a weird relationship with the CBC since he was let go last. EDIT: New twist Jian Ghomeshi posted:Dear everyone, Geoid has issued a correction as of 23:22 on Oct 26, 2014 |
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So I guess Jian posted on his Facebook - whips and chains and a jilted ex. CBC said to be against having a BDSM enthusiast as a top personality. This is gonna get messy
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# ? Oct 26, 2014 23:22 |
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Yeah here's the post: https://www.facebook.com/jianghomeshi/posts/10152357063881750 I can't imagine them taking a move like this for the reasons he's stating. This is going to be a lot of drama!
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# ? Oct 26, 2014 23:25 |
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Well this is gonna be awkward
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# ? Oct 26, 2014 23:33 |
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its ghomeshigate, because its important to add -gate to the end of all scandals.
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# ? Oct 26, 2014 23:39 |
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Actually I believe -ghazi is the preferred scandal suffix now.
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# ? Oct 26, 2014 23:42 |
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If, and the key here is definitely the if, this bit is accurate then he's definitely got strong grounds for legal action. Very, very strong grounds. "... have been open with the CBC about this since these categorically untrue allegations ramped up. I have never believed it was anyone's business what I do in my private affairs but I wanted my bosses to be aware that this attempt to smear me was out there. CBC has been part of the team of friends and lawyers assembled to deal with this for months. On Thursday I voluntarily showed evidence that everything I have done has been consensual. I did this in good faith and because I know, as I have always known, that I have nothing to hide. This when the CBC decided to fire me. CBC execs confirmed that the information provided showed that there was consent. In fact, they later said to me and my team that there is no question in their minds that there has always been consent. They said they’re not concerned about the legal side. But then they said that this type of sexual behavior was unbecoming of a prominent host on the CBC. They said that I was being dismissed for "the risk of the perception that may come from a story that could come out." To recap, I am being fired in my prime from the show I love and built and threw myself into for years because of what I do in my private life. Let me be the first to say that my tastes in the bedroom may not be palatable to some folks. They may be strange, enticing, weird, normal, or outright offensive to others. We all have our secret life. But that is my private life. That is my personal life. And no one, and certainly no employer, should have dominion over what people do consensually in their private life." I don't really believe him though, as a friend of mine has an eerily similar story to this one - http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/non-date except from about 2 years ago. TrueChaos has issued a correction as of 23:56 on Oct 26, 2014 |
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Holy poo poo. That is wild. There is pretty much no way for that decision to work out for the CBC. Worst case you look terrible and also lose in court, best case you just look terrible (and probably settle out of court). Like... wow.
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# ? Oct 26, 2014 23:49 |
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Well now we still have to hear this report that's coming out. Coming sooner rather than later now I'd wager.
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# ? Oct 26, 2014 23:53 |
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I now regret being curious about this in the first place
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# ? Oct 26, 2014 23:54 |
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I sincerely doubt Jian is being forthright with us, despite going into messy detail in his own post. I don't care if he's into kink, that's not a problem for an alternative-style host like him. I'm willing to bet he's got Steven Segal-esq dungeon secrets going on here.
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# ? Oct 26, 2014 23:54 |
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This is like that "Bright Eyes" scandal. If the ex-truly wishes she never made the allegations in the first place maybe she can publicly retract them?
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# ? Oct 26, 2014 23:57 |
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Maybe he's such an amazing partner that multiple exes all lined up to fabricate stories of non-consensual abuse because they all want him back and of course bitches be crazy yo and maybe they were all on their period at the time and come on guys you know how women get when it's "that time of the month" and why didn't they go the police because they take these accusations seriously. Yes. This seems like the most likely explanation.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 00:02 |
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Welp, I never wanted to know that much about the talking man on Q but based on everything I just read, including his own defense, I'm glad he's gone.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 00:07 |
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Wasn't Sook-Yin Lee in some kind of artistic porno at one point? I highly doubt this was the only reason he was let go.
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I'd definitely put my money on "that's a lie" as well. A big personality like him? SURELY they spoke to at least one lawyer before making that decision, and if they really did make the decision based entirely on "well he's into BDSM..." well I have a hard time believing any lawyer or even HR person wouldn't have just shut that idea down.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 00:14 |
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I'm interested in seeing if any other exes have similar stories
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 00:16 |
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I'm guessing there might be something like a "... and one of the exes was 16 years old" sort of thing going unsaid here. Not necessarily that, but something like that. Sort of like when a guy I used to work with said his vice was being a womanizer, and it turns out, after a Google search of his name, that he'd asked a 12-year-old girl for naked pictures and then sent her a picture of his junk. Just enough truth to throw people off the scent, but stopping well short of the whole truth.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 00:16 |
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Slightly Toasted posted:Wasn't Sook-Yin Lee in some kind of artistic porno at one point? I highly doubt this was the only reason he was let go. Yeah, and I get the impression she's vocal about such things. So if Sook-Yin doesn't step up to immediately side with him about the dismissal, we'll know that something else is going on and that this isn't a "bedrooms of the nation" scenario.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 00:21 |
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Yeah, none of this holds up to the smell test. The only way Ghomeshi's account holds up is if the government had some sort of hand in getting rid of him, and you'd think they'd know it wouldn't hold up legally.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 00:23 |
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Slightly Toasted posted:Wasn't Sook-Yin Lee in some kind of artistic porno at one point? I highly doubt this was the only reason he was let go. I think something similar took place and she was off the air for a while or something Edit: It's called shortbus
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 00:26 |
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TrueChaos posted:"the risk of the perception that may come from a story that could come out."
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 00:26 |
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HookShot posted:A big personality like him? SURELY they spoke to at least one lawyer before making that decision, and if they really did make the decision based entirely on "well he's into BDSM..." well I have a hard time believing any lawyer or even HR person wouldn't have just shut that idea down. Yeah, there's clearly something more serious than 'BDSM sure is weird, anybody could tell you firing somebody for that isn't going to end well. Even if higher ups at CBC just had some grudge against him, you'd think they would have cut him a few months ago when the big budget cuts came down.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 01:18 |
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Whiskey Sours posted:Actually I believe -ghazi is the preferred scandal suffix now. JianGhazi? Anyways I'm kinda waiting for the other shoe to drop on this one. Smart of him to get his side of the story out first though.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 01:18 |
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Maybe CSEC found out Jian was communicating with IS and planning a jihad. I mean, he's from that general region so....
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 01:21 |
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Cultural Imperial posted:Maybe CSEC found out Jian was communicating with IS and planning a jihad. I mean, he's from that general region so.... Maybe he's Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and has been feeding the existence of al-Baghdadi in the Middle East as a Keyser Söze-type angle...
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 01:30 |
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One thing is for sure, Sun TV is going to love this.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 01:36 |
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ThirdPartyView posted:Maybe he's Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and has been feeding the existence of al-Baghdadi in the Middle East as a Keyser Söze-type angle... yeah totally, so what are we waiting for? Let's murder everyone in the mid east and central asia.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 01:40 |
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get it, because shes chinese
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 01:45 |
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Another gem from the man who brought us I remember reading the Portfoolio collections when I was a kid and thinking Donato had a funny, cute style (especially Joe Clark with his 'lil mittens ) but either I was young and naive or he became a tremendous shithead in his old age.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 01:47 |
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Why is she in a Chinese People's Liberation Army uniform?
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 01:48 |
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Probably the best possible move by the CBC given some of the scuttlebutt. The real problem here has nothing to do with whether he's guilty or innocent of whatever accusations will be forthcoming. The reception of the story by the public will be highly divisive and after it's out there the outcry will not favour the CBC in any event. Some people will believe his facebook statement and want to believe that he is not capable of such a thing. Some people will believe the aggrieved parties. Optically the CBC as his employer will lose in either scenario. It is impossible for them to completely wash their hands of the situation, and being sued for 50 million is no picnic. Being petitioned to both fire and not fire him by the public is probably worse because that way everyone wants to boycott them. A really prolonged scandal would be a red cape to a PC strategist, calling for either concessions from the CBC or its closure.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 01:49 |
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Hexigrammus posted:Why is she in a Chinese People's Liberation Army uniform? I can answer that, it's because
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 01:50 |
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I want a Mao suit...
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 01:51 |
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Hexigrammus posted:Why is she in a Chinese People's Liberation Army uniform? Because it's the Toronto Sun's cartoonist, and everyone affiliated with that chain of newspapers is a trouser stain.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 01:53 |
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PT6A posted:I'm guessing there might be something like a "... and one of the exes was 16 years old" sort of thing going unsaid here. Not necessarily that, but something like that. Sort of like when a guy I used to work with said his vice was being a womanizer, and it turns out, after a Google search of his name, that he'd asked a 12-year-old girl for naked pictures and then sent her a picture of his junk. Just enough truth to throw people off the scent, but stopping well short of the whole truth. Now watch this interview, with an eye towards body language, with that subtext in mind: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=flA6A9TtvOo E: saints gambit posted:Probably the best possible move by the CBC given some of the scuttlebutt. Do ya'll in Canada have "unpaid leave pending a full investigation"?
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 01:58 |
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Yeah, also, I don't think any of you have any idea how hard it is it get fired from a government job.
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# ? Oct 27, 2014 02:05 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:Do ya'll in Canada have "unpaid leave pending a full investigation"? Yes, but it's not necessary here since they can just can his rear end without any sort of repercussions. EDIT: Is that cartoon meant to be racist? I thought it was only implying that she's a commie, since those look rather like the fatigues worn by Cuban officials as well. I didn't make the connection to Mao/China at all, but maybe that's because I've spent much more time in Cuba.
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