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New Leaf posted:This keeps coming up. My personal opinion is that Maggie is just so desensitized to people being "just gone" that she's accepted that she may never see her sister again. Someone snagged her in a car weeks ago and drove off to places unknown. That's it. That's their entire lead. How do you follow up on that? A lot of poo poo has happened for them in the intervening weeks. She's probably just happy to be alive herself. If Daryl had told her "hey, we saw the car, Carol and I are going after it", I'm sure she and Glenn would have jumped at the chance. But the fact is, there's dozens of people from the prison that are "just gone" now. She's probably cried her tears off-camera and that's that. It's harsh, but the one thing she does have is Glenn. She's focusing on what's in front of her rather than what's behind her. I agree with this, to an extent. It hasn't been handled perfectly, since she decided to seek out Glenn on the bus and pursued him feverishly afterward. She made a choice in the moments after the prison fell to let her father and sister go all at once, emotionally. But giving more on screen reference to it would make the impact stronger. As it is, she seems to not care at all, which doesn't mesh with the character, even if she is a battle hardened survivor. I like that the prospect of finding a car in the setting would be overwhelming to the point of giving up, but show that dejection! Have her fight Glenn a little before she says 'Ok, we made a promise to them and each other, I guess Beth is just dead in my mind.' Abraham's pushy attitude works because he sees soldiers in the group. The people around him should care about the mission above all else, and stalling to wait for deserters makes no sense to him. Rick knows Daryl wouldn't leave them there guessing, but Abraham sees Daryl as MIA, and reacts how he would on any important combat mission. I suspect Abraham was someone who never survived well in a normal setting and this has given him 24/7 military life, somewhat of a fantasy for him. He also happens to be out the top of his chain of command.
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Amazing shot with the red handle, Gareth's eyes just flicker to it slightly... He knew what was coming. I concur with the Daryl escorting young people/kids. Baby factory seems plausible. E: also good quick resolution to the 'who left the marks in the trees' Lord Twisted fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Oct 27, 2014 |
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Oct 27, 2014 22:52
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Lord Twisted posted:I concur with the Daryl escorting young people/kids. Baby factory seems plausible. Too extreme. You know they'd all get redshirted.
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Oct 27, 2014 22:54
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I don't think I'd really mind if this season was just Rick and company coming across and dispatching increasingly insane groups and going on the most hosed up road trip to DC.
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Oct 27, 2014 22:59
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a cop posted:Too extreme. You know they'd all get redshirted. Yeah - if they still had the short bus maybe, but I doubt that after the massacre in the church the show is going to saddle us with a bunch of innocent kids to be eaten by walkers. At least, I hope not.  Wait, leading a group of kids by the elementary school full of walkers with cracked glass...  Anyway, I think it's just Beth and Carol, maybe a couple other young people (not kids)?
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Oct 27, 2014 23:27
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Did it seem odd to anyone else that all of the zombies in the school were adults
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Oct 27, 2014 23:28
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moist turtleneck posted:Did it seem odd to anyone else that all of the zombies in the school were adults There have been barely any zombie children in the show full stop (Gov's daughter, Carols daughter, kid in first episode). I'm guessing they are just a pain from the production standpoint (working with children, labor laws in regards to working with children).
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Oct 27, 2014 23:32
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Kids are weaker as well so once attacked by a walker they'd find it harder to get away, instead of just being lunch. Would be interesting if more living kids did show up, they had a lot at the prison after all.
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Oct 27, 2014 23:41
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So yeah, I thought season 1 established that everyone's already infected, so what's that tainted meat bullshit? (Or bites turning people for that matter?)
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Oct 28, 2014 00:07
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Combat Pretzel posted:So yeah, I thought season 1 established that everyone's already infected, so what's that tainted meat bullshit? (Or bites turning people for that matter?) Everyone who dies, turns. If you are bitten, the bite kills you and turns you faster. We've seen people get sick and die from bites literally every season.
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Oct 28, 2014 00:17
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Combat Pretzel posted:So yeah, I thought season 1 established that everyone's already infected, so what's that tainted meat bullshit? (Or bites turning people for that matter?) Only the people who were with rick at the CDC would know that.
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Oct 28, 2014 00:29
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Neophyte posted:Thanks, and yeah it's really hard to see - High Definition my rear end. It's like half a days drive.
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Oct 28, 2014 00:29
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twistedmentat posted:Only the people who were with rick at the CDC would know that. Dienes posted:Everyone who dies, turns. If you are bitten, the bite kills you and turns you faster. We've seen people get sick and die from bites literally every season.
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Oct 28, 2014 00:38
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Episode was good, Michonne's sword coming back to her as soon as she unleashes some crazy violence after she thought she'd moved on from being a monster is pretty perfect. Rest in peace Bob, you were my favorite Walkin Dude. Church sign shot that went on forever was great.
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Oct 28, 2014 01:39
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Surlaw posted:Church sign shot that went on forever was great. It really was, but it lingered on the sign with no action in the background for so long I thought my DVR recording froze or ended and I got pissed for a moment. Really tense and creepy scenes in this one, I loved it.
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Speaking of kids being difficult to film with, I'm wondering if Judith is going to make it out of this season. It's got to be a pain in the rear end to film any scene that she's in, and I imagine they've got to source a new baby every couple of months for continuity's sake. I wonder if they have an actual plan for her in mind, or if they just wanted to subvert comic plot points for the hell of it. Also, I can't remember if this ever came up: Is Judith infected, too? I wonder if the infection only hit everyone that was alive at the time, giving the next generation a chance at a future, or if it's transmitted at birth. edit: Also, tally up another instance of Eugene sounding like he's totally full of poo poo. He just spouts a bunch of vague lingo, but at a basic level nothing he says really makes sense. Like I still don't get what his plan is for a cure. You can't use a bioweapon against something that's not alive, since, you know, those organisms require a living host. He also never explained what that means for everyone that is still alive. Have they ever brought up that all humans are infected when he's around? It kind of feels like he doesn't realize that. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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Oct 28, 2014 01:59
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Bob was awesome and loved. rip Bob.
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Oct 28, 2014 02:00
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Also, I can't remember if this ever came up: Is Judith infected, too? I wonder if the infection only hit everyone that was alive at the time, giving the next generation a chance at a future, or if it's transmitted at birth. I think whatever the cure is probably kills babies born after the outbreak. Autistic science guy gave the baby a weird look at the end of one episode after talking about the cure and soldier guy said something like, "we'll tell them later."
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Oct 28, 2014 02:05
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twistedmentat posted:Only the people who were with rick at the CDC would know that. People would probably notice the dead turning from non-zombie deaths almost two years later.
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Oct 28, 2014 02:09
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Combat Pretzel posted:
"There are dead people walking about and if they bite you you'll turn into one of them" is the core premise of the show. I know there's no science to the infection, but it makes sense in my head. Everyone is infected with a dormant version of the virus. When you die (through whatever means) that virus takes over dead flesh. So when you're bit what do you get, that's right a nice little chunk of your own dead flesh that's swarmed by both the virus in your own body and those from the walker that bites you. That gives the infection a foothold to grow in strength and take over your body. That also explains why amputation can work to prevent a bitten person from turning.
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Oct 28, 2014 02:11
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euphronius posted:It's like half a days drive. With functioning infrastructure and clear roads, and not having to worry about dangerous survivors looking to ambush you, or giant hordes of walkers. It's a longer way to go when you have to deal with those things and backtrack when the route you're on turns out to be hosed in some way. Milovan Drecun posted:But giving more on screen reference to it would make the impact stronger. As it is, she seems to not care at all, which doesn't mesh with the character, even if she is a battle hardened survivor. I like that the prospect of finding a car in the setting would be overwhelming to the point of giving up, but show that dejection! Have her fight Glenn a little before she says 'Ok, we made a promise to them and each other, I guess Beth is just dead in my mind.' Yeah, there should have been some conversation after reuniting with Daryl. From what we've seen there doesn't seem to be any indication that she understands Beth is still alive, and if she did know, she wouldn't be so quick to head to DC. Also, I usually don't bother with the catch-ups before new seasons- when AMC binges the entire series for the week or so before the new one premieres. But this time around I happened to catch the first and second nights, so I re-watched all of season 1 and the first part of season 2. It was really interesting to see how much the characters have evolved; comparing Carol from the first season to now is like night and day. And they've done a really good job of aging the characters' look- like how clean Rick and even Daryl were in their first on screen moments to the greasiness of the current season. Listerine fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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Pharmaskittle posted:I think whatever the cure is probably kills babies born after the outbreak. Autistic science guy gave the baby a weird look at the end of one episode after talking about the cure and soldier guy said something like, "we'll tell them later." I think he meant they'll talk to Rick and them about going with them to DC later, after they're done with their reunions and celebrations, which happened in the next episode. Lycus fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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Oct 28, 2014 02:29
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Lycus posted:I think he meant they'll talk to Rick and them about going with them to DC later, after they're done with their reunions and celebrations, which happened in the next episode. That was my impression too.
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Oct 28, 2014 02:34
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This show has to end with Ricks death.
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Oct 28, 2014 02:44
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euphronius posted:This show has to end with Ricks death. Last shot will be Carl shooting Zombie Rick.
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Oct 28, 2014 02:45
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Yes Yes. That would be a good ending.
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Oct 28, 2014 02:46
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Lycus posted:Last shot will be Carl shooting Zombie Rick. They'll just rip off how the first season of the Walking Dead game ended.
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Oct 28, 2014 02:58
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Thanks for the spoiler, MATE.
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Oct 28, 2014 03:01
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The show will end with literally everyone dead except Daryl. And then he'll get a spinoff.
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Oct 28, 2014 03:07
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Lycus posted:Last shot will be Carl shooting Zombie Rick. The last shot will be Rick shooting zombie Carl and then blowing his own head off.
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Oct 28, 2014 03:18
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twistedmentat posted:Only the people who were with rick at the CDC would know that. It's such a rough world they live in now and enough time has passed that I'm sure they've all seen somebody die a non-zombie death and then turn.
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Oct 28, 2014 03:21
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Mantis42 posted:The show will end with literally everyone dead except Daryl. And then he'll get a spinoff. You wouldn't really need a spinoff then, would you. You could just keep going.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:
I don't get why everyone keeps calling it a cure, it's pretty heavily implied to just be a bioweapon that will kill off the zombies, not cure them. As for everyone being infected, my prediction is the big reveal will be that the bioweapon will just kill off everyone, undead or not. Presumably there's a fallout bunker or something at DC so a few people can ride it out, hence Abe's comment about Rick's group being one that should survive.
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Zartosht posted:I don't get why everyone keeps calling it a cure, it's pretty heavily implied to just be a bioweapon that will kill off the zombies, not cure them. Didn't Abraham keep calling it a cure? I mean the way he explained it made it sound like it was definitely a bioweapon of some sort, but it still makes no sense because biological warfare by it's very definition wouldn't do jack poo poo against the undead since they require living hosts to survive / reproduce. And on top of that you'd either have to find some way to disperse it across the entire continental US, or sit around and wait for the hilariously, impossibly slow process of zombies spreading some engineered disease between one another. Basically either the showrunners don't have a grasp on basic biology, or Eugene is full of poo poo. Some goofy poo poo happens on this show, but I'm willing to give the writers the benefit of the doubt in terms of barebones research into major plot elements. And even if you could hide in a bunker or something and survive wiping out the rest of the world, what's the point? They'd still be infected and turn as soon as they died. In that case sitting in a bunker and waiting until you die of natural causes is exactly as effective as unleashing a bioweapon and then sitting in a bunker and waiting until you die of natural causes. edit: Unless newborns aren't infected or something, which is one of the few directions I can see them really going for with Judith. Grizzled Patriarch fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Oct 28, 2014 |
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fullroundaction posted:You wouldn't really need a spinoff then, would you. You could just keep going. It's a spin off in the sense that the show gets rebranded as Daryl's Big Game Zombie Hunting Adventure with each episode focused on Daryl tracking and killing a different zombie celebrity each week.
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Oct 28, 2014 03:51
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Eugene makes no tactical sense bit has always been a stand in for belief and faith in a land with no god.
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euphronius posted:Eugene makes no tactical sense bit has always been a stand in for belief and faith in a land with no god. Thematically, I agree completely (though I'm not sure that the show is self-aware enough to do anything profound with that angle), and I imagine this is the direction they are going to go with the addition of the priest. However, they are going to eventually have to reconcile that with reality unless they never get to DC / Eugene dies first.
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Oct 28, 2014 04:00
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Not self aware enough?? They sent Eugene off in a church bus!
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Didn't Abraham keep calling it a cure? Its a cure for living in a zombie-infested world.
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a cock shaped fruit posted:It's a spin off in the sense that the show gets rebranded as Daryl's Big Game Zombie Hunting Adventure with each episode focused on Daryl tracking and killing a different zombie celebrity each week. I hope by this point he's completely insane and ties them to a recliner and pretends to be on some sort of late night show interviewing them.
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