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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


seriously shubel morgan hasnt updated his youtube since lf was around

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28AI_KAamMA

:rip:

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System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Perhaps I can grab this opportunity and have someone explain to me what the gently caress Maoism-Third Worldism is supposed to be. The former I get, the latter not so much.

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

It lives on in the hearts of the global proletariat. Or it would do if any of them had heard of it.

(I think MSH is now LLCO?)

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

System Metternich posted:

Perhaps I can grab this opportunity and have someone explain to me what the gently caress Maoism-Third Worldism is supposed to be. The former I get, the latter not so much.

In traditional Maoism, the farmers come from distant (rural) lands of the nation to go beat up people in the cities and take over.

Now replace "rural lands" with "poor countries" and "cities" with "rich countries".

Nosfereefer
Jun 15, 2011

IF YOU FIND THIS POSTER OUTSIDE BYOB, PLEASE RETURN THEM. WE ARE VERY WORRIED AND WE MISS THEM

System Metternich posted:

Perhaps I can grab this opportunity and have someone explain to me what the gently caress Maoism-Third Worldism is supposed to be. The former I get, the latter not so much.


hth

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


System Metternich posted:

Perhaps I can grab this opportunity and have someone explain to me what the gently caress Maoism-Third Worldism is supposed to be. The former I get, the latter not so much.

perhaps this will explain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOMEUamYkc

Nosfereefer
Jun 15, 2011

IF YOU FIND THIS POSTER OUTSIDE BYOB, PLEASE RETURN THEM. WE ARE VERY WORRIED AND WE MISS THEM

Nosfereefer
Jun 15, 2011

IF YOU FIND THIS POSTER OUTSIDE BYOB, PLEASE RETURN THEM. WE ARE VERY WORRIED AND WE MISS THEM

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


some serious Maoism Third-Worldist Analysis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hq2rOEwnIU

Kellsterik
Mar 30, 2012
It's strongest at University of Wisconsin-Madison, with a respectable following at the Milwaukee branch as well.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Kellsterik posted:

It's strongest at University of Wisconsin-Madison, with a respectable following at the Milwaukee branch as well.

It's actually a movement beyond two people blogging and one guy making hate amerikkka beats?

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
Fallen Rib

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

It's actually a movement beyond two people blogging and one guy making hate amerikkka beats?

they have a post office box in ann arbor michigan, so i figured it was some grad students at the university of michigan

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

computer parts posted:

In traditional Maoism, the farmers come from distant (rural) lands of the nation to go beat up people in the cities and take over.

Now replace "rural lands" with "poor countries" and "cities" with "rich countries".

I can just hire one third world country to kill the other. :smug:

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
Global North >>> Global South
H.
T.
H.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Bip Roberts posted:

Global North >>> Global South
H.
T.
H.



Kellsterik
Mar 30, 2012
The Something Awful Forums > Debate & Discussion: Nowhere to run to, Amerikkka. Nowhere to fuckin' hide.

Sergg
Sep 19, 2005

I was rejected by the:

It's like Pol Pot but with more invasions.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

How fuckin' funny would it be if the third world tried to invade anyone.

They'd be like "Hey America, can we borrow some ammo and food and medicine and uniforms and trucks and also boats?" and America would be like "What for?" and they;'d be all "Nuthin'..."

Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011

Rent-A-Cop posted:

How fuckin' funny would it be if the third world tried to invade anyone.

They'd be like "Hey America, can we borrow some ammo and food and medicine and uniforms and trucks and also boats?" and America would be like "What for?" and they;'d be all "Nuthin'..."

How funny would it be to send the third world movement to the third world?

Sergg
Sep 19, 2005

I was rejected by the:

Glorious Socialist comrade Bashar Assad needs YOUR support TODAY.

Gen. Ripper
Jan 12, 2013


I think Maoist Third-Worldists can be summed up as creepy neckbeards who wanted to rape Regina George in Mean Girls but wound up on lovely communist blogs instead of TVTropes.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
True revolution must come from within.

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.
whole load of self-hating whiteys ITT

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
Yes OP LF posters still live.

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

Darkman Fanpage posted:

Yes OP LF posters still live.

Takbir

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY
oontz

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

System Metternich posted:

Perhaps I can grab this opportunity and have someone explain to me what the gently caress Maoism-Third Worldism is supposed to be. The former I get, the latter not so much.
MTW is imperialist assholes saying "stop us before we colonize again"

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice
Didn't virtually every lf superstar turn out to be a complete basket case?

Like that one guy who pretended to be a really fat muslim so LF would buy him pants.

Sergg
Sep 19, 2005

I was rejected by the:

Jonad posted:

Didn't virtually every lf superstar turn out to be a complete basket case?

Some of em were pretty cool, they just stopped posting as much because of all the bullshit white noise from the basket cases.

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

Peel posted:

It lives on in the hearts of the global proletariat. Or it would do if any of them had heard of it.

(I think MSH is now LLCO?)
LLCO has publicly renounced the MTW line. Fuckin revizos.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Gazpacho posted:

LLCO has publicly renounced the MTW line. Fuckin revizos.

also their videos have gotten lamer

http://vimeo.com/62105335

where's the oontz....

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde
That MSH writer who posted here until FYAD banned him on one of their LF panty raids was awesome and I wish he could post again.

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Please bring back Monkey Smashes Heaven. It was one of my favorite websites.

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

As long as Presidente Gonzalo is alive!

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

there's that old black magic

wheez the roux
Aug 2, 2004
THEY SHOULD'VE GIVEN IT TO LYNCH

Death to the Seahawks. Death to Seahawks posters.

Rand alPaul posted:

Please bring back Monkey Smashes Heaven. It was one of my favorite websites.

i liked when me and another dude trolled MSH from the left and they got Extremely Angry about it:

The fake class struggle of M$H
October 13, 2009
Scientific communists put class struggle above all else. Unfortunately, Fight All Fakes! feels that M$H (monkkkey$mashesheaven) is abandoning class struggle for their own bourgeois interests. They support the revisionist Mao while pretending to uphold Lin Biao. Fake communism stems from bourgeois selfishness, it places personal interests first and the interests of the revolution second, and this gives rise to ideological, political and organizational liberalism.

People who are fake communists look upon the principles of Marxism as abstract dogma. They approve of Marxism, but are not prepared to practice it or to practice it in full; they are not prepared to replace their liberalism by Marxism. These people have their Marxism, but they have their liberalism as wellthey talk Marxism but practice liberalism; they apply Marxism to others but liberalism to themselves. They keep both kinds of goods in stock and find a use for each. This is how the minds of certain people like M$H work.

Of course, Fight All Fakes! doesnt just throw around accusations of fakery. We are a scientific organization, and we approach problems in a rational manner. M$H has made many contributions to our new political line, Lin Biaoism-Third Worldism (post-Maoism-Third Worldism). Much like the now-defunct MIM, we acknowledge the advances made in revolutionary science while denouncing revisionism and bourgeois liberalism.

M$H is nothing more bourgeois first world scumbags posting their thoughts about revolutionary science without ever experiencing the true effects of capitalism. First worlders have no place in trying to guide third worldism, it is like the board of directors of Bank of Amerikkka trying to lead a black nationalist group.

M$H is guilty of a different kind of imperialism, the imperialism of ideology. They try to ram white bourgeois ideology down the throats of the global proletariat when their revisionism isnt wanted. Some of their statements are so delusional, that we have to laugh.

M$H provides the ideological leadership to a large, autonomous, global movement calling itself Maoist-Third Worldist.

Large, autonomous movement? Their supporters range from petty bourgeois third worlders to utterly bourgeois First Worlders. There is nothing autonomous about MTW, it is bourgeois First World kids getting off on an authoritarian fantasy. They consider us, the global proletariat that lives in the Third World, to be too stupid to understand a nuanced position on gender.

4. Alternative gender language promulgates the myth that adult first-world females are significantly oppressed such that they can be aligned with the oppressed nations against imperialism.

For these reasons, we request that M$H takes a back seat to the proletarian leaders of the fourth stage of revolutionary science, Lin Biaoism-Third Worldism. We acknowledge your accomplishments in many fields, but revisionism and fakes must be exposed, no matter their contributions.

Real Maoism is Lin Biaoism. The future of communism needs First World bourgeois pseudo-vanguardists like a fish needs wings. Smash the First World to dust!

they commented on it with this and it was followed by a bunch of apoplectic blog posts by white dutch DJ shubelmorgan

quote:

Your assertions are categorically ultra-left and pre-scientific. IJC has already dealt with your kind of subjectivist nonsense before, but lemme put your sack o’ poo poo right up on the table for everybody to smell:

“M$H is nothing more bourgeois first world scumbags posting their thoughts about revolutionary science without ever experiencing the true effects of capitalism. First worlders have no place in trying to guide third worldism, it is like the board of directors of Bank of Amerikkka trying to lead a black nationalist group.”

You, and ever so poetically, expose your subjectivist identity politics in full view. Who gives a flying gently caress whether we were born and raised in Jharkhand or NYC, black or white, male or female, rich or poor? A PIG does, not a scientist. Who cares about spreading scientific revolutionary ideas to the Third World? We do, and for the pigs it is to stop us. Your attacks advance absolutely nothing for science and give the pigs what they want: 1.) identity politics and pornography, which make it easier for pigs to do their job in messing with the personal lives of comrades. 2.) obstruction of the flow of revolutionary science to the Third World by bad jacketing MSH as “revisionist” without qualifying it by anything but identity politics (see point 1).

And what is about Comrade Mao being “revisionist”? Does this make Comrade Stalin a revisionist in the main just because he held some revisionist opinions in his lifetime? You judge the work of a comrade by the main body of the work produced, not the minutia of various errors. It is how a scientist can distinguish Lin, Mao, and Deng; with Lin and Mao still being our comrades and Deng a revisionist traitor, while Lin having a superior line to Mao.

Like “Stalinism” vis-a-vis Leninism, “Lin Biaoism” has never been substantial enough as a body of thought on its own to be considered distinguishable from Marxism-Leninism-Maoism with the exception of the emphasis of the Third World revolution in “LLVPW!”. While he definitely pointed the way, Comrade Lin didn’t go far enough in advocating an active JDPEN over imperialism, thus the need for a new stage named independently of a “great dead comrade”; hence “Maoism-Third Worldism” rather than “Maoism-Lin Biaoism”. Your “Lin Biaoism-Third Worldism” label is redundant for the reasons above.

Your site’s own name is “fight all fakes”, is it not? In accordance with the communist principle of self-criticism IJC urges you to fight the fake “left-wing” posturing you display in this latest post and return to science, if you were ever there to begin with…

wheez the roux fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Nov 2, 2014

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


lol

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Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

wheez the roux posted:

i liked when me and another dude trolled MSH from the left and they got Extremely Angry about it:

The fake class struggle of M$H
October 13, 2009
Scientific communists put class struggle above all else. Unfortunately, Fight All Fakes! feels that M$H (monkkkey$mashesheaven) is abandoning class struggle for their own bourgeois interests. They support the revisionist Mao while pretending to uphold Lin Biao. Fake communism stems from bourgeois selfishness, it places personal interests first and the interests of the revolution second, and this gives rise to ideological, political and organizational liberalism.

People who are fake communists look upon the principles of Marxism as abstract dogma. They approve of Marxism, but are not prepared to practice it or to practice it in full; they are not prepared to replace their liberalism by Marxism. These people have their Marxism, but they have their liberalism as wellthey talk Marxism but practice liberalism; they apply Marxism to others but liberalism to themselves. They keep both kinds of goods in stock and find a use for each. This is how the minds of certain people like M$H work.

Of course, Fight All Fakes! doesnt just throw around accusations of fakery. We are a scientific organization, and we approach problems in a rational manner. M$H has made many contributions to our new political line, Lin Biaoism-Third Worldism (post-Maoism-Third Worldism). Much like the now-defunct MIM, we acknowledge the advances made in revolutionary science while denouncing revisionism and bourgeois liberalism.

M$H is nothing more bourgeois first world scumbags posting their thoughts about revolutionary science without ever experiencing the true effects of capitalism. First worlders have no place in trying to guide third worldism, it is like the board of directors of Bank of Amerikkka trying to lead a black nationalist group.

M$H is guilty of a different kind of imperialism, the imperialism of ideology. They try to ram white bourgeois ideology down the throats of the global proletariat when their revisionism isnt wanted. Some of their statements are so delusional, that we have to laugh.

M$H provides the ideological leadership to a large, autonomous, global movement calling itself Maoist-Third Worldist.

Large, autonomous movement? Their supporters range from petty bourgeois third worlders to utterly bourgeois First Worlders. There is nothing autonomous about MTW, it is bourgeois First World kids getting off on an authoritarian fantasy. They consider us, the global proletariat that lives in the Third World, to be too stupid to understand a nuanced position on gender.

4. Alternative gender language promulgates the myth that adult first-world females are significantly oppressed such that they can be aligned with the oppressed nations against imperialism.

For these reasons, we request that M$H takes a back seat to the proletarian leaders of the fourth stage of revolutionary science, Lin Biaoism-Third Worldism. We acknowledge your accomplishments in many fields, but revisionism and fakes must be exposed, no matter their contributions.

Real Maoism is Lin Biaoism. The future of communism needs First World bourgeois pseudo-vanguardists like a fish needs wings. Smash the First World to dust!

they commented on it with this and it was followed by a bunch of apoplectic blog posts by white dutch DJ shubelmorgan

I love how their defense makes them look worse than your attack did.

Maoists get mocked, trots get trolled, more power to you.

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