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hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Those On My Left posted:

What are you even doing muyb

He hasn't been wearing his stack hat, obviously.

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CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

The Greens are basically the only party that listens to scientific evidence and reason and isn't all about loving over the poors and environment to make a short term gain. Just tell Young Labor that they're merely Another Liberal Party.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Matthew Beet posted:

No one knows why you joined in the first place, I just presumed it coupled with your job hunting failures were some kind of performance art.

To see if there were friends to be made, I only met people my age who wanted to make a sign holder out of me. I like voting left on agenda but the effect is minimal at best.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Anidav posted:

To see if there were friends to be made, I only met people my age who wanted to make a sign holder out of me. I like voting left on agenda but the effect is minimal at best.

No we didn't wonder why you joined a party, we wondered why you joined a poo poo one.

hambeet fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Nov 11, 2014

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



Palmersaurus posted:

Rememberance Day is a really good time to send soldiers into a warzone.

Hey man, lest we forget and stuff.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Gough Suppressant posted:

The Australian Labor Party is responsible for the rights and protections you enjoy at work.

This is why I keep telling people in the US to stick with the Republicans. They're the party of Abraham Lincoln!

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

Those On My Left posted:

What are you even doing muyb

I guess you guys aren't familiar with the particulars of the rights and protections which Anidav enjoys at work.

Those On My Left
Jun 25, 2010

Gough Suppressant posted:

I guess you guys aren't familiar with the particulars of the rights and protections which Anidav enjoys at work.

Man that was too subtle for me.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

Bifauxnen posted:

This is why I keep telling people in the US to stick with the Republicans. They're the party of Abraham Lincoln!
Didn't Lincoln abolish slavery?

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

Those On My Left posted:

Man that was too subtle for me.

It's okay, jokes are better when you have to explain them.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

Matthew Beet posted:

No we didn't wonder why you joined a party, we wondered why you joined a poo poo one.

Because Queensland only has two choices.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

Anidav posted:

Because Queensland only has two choices.

Dario Naharis always has a choice

*Beheads the leaders of Labor and LNP and presents them to Christine Milne*

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

Anidav posted:

Because Queensland only has two choices.
It always will if people keep thinking the way you do

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Politics isn't football. If your party stops representing your interests, you don't 'follow' them like a team having a bad season, hoping for change. You throw them to the loving curb.

Les Affaires
Nov 15, 2004

Gorilla Salad posted:

Politics isn't football. If your party stops representing your interests, you don't 'follow' them like a team having a bad season, hoping for change. You throw them to the loving curb.

Um... no, politics is exactly like sport. Exactly.

G-Spot Run
Jun 28, 2005
We need to start responding to bad policies like an angry soccer riot in that case

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008

Gorilla Salad posted:

Politics isn't football. If your party stops representing your interests, you don't 'follow' them like a team having a bad season, hoping for change. You throw them to the loving curb.

God I wish sports was like politics

Foreman Domai
Apr 2, 2010

"In one dimension I find existence, in two I find life, but in three, I find freedom."

Gorilla Salad posted:

Politics isn't football. If your party stops representing your interests, you don't 'follow' them like a team having a bad season, hoping for change. You throw them to the loving curb.

No, but, you see, ~*~change from within~*~

Seriously though Anidav quit the ALP and join The Greens. I actually got a job through a member of my branch so who knows, you might even be able to fix your unemployment woes too.

Skellybones
May 31, 2011




Fun Shoe

Les Affaires posted:

Um... no, politics is exactly like sport. Exactly.

Much like how the economy is a household budget.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

Anidav posted:

Because Queensland only has one option.

Get it right. Two sides of the same coin and all that.

Most corrupt, most conservative, most embarrassing state in australia.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

A Bernard Keane from a day ago. I'd noticed this trend but it's the revolving door which adds the real kicker:

Bernard Keane, Crikey posted:

The cheap and convenient outsourcing of public responsibility, from detention to Ebola


While the government's decision to outsource its on-the-ground contribution to the fight against Ebola in West Africa to Aspen Medical has drawn criticism of the company, it is merely a continuation of the steady shift of government service provision to the private sector, especially in health, defence, jails and immigration. Call it the Sercoisation of service delivery.

After an extended period of confusion, including multiple reports it had approved the dispatch of Australian healthcare workers to West Africa, the government abruptly changed course last week and announced Canberra health service company Aspen Medical would be paid $20 million to provide hospital services in Sierra Leone, with 80% of the staff to be sourced locally. Aspen currently has no staff trained to deal with Ebola.

Since 2007, Aspen has secured over $300 million worth of federal government contracts for the provision of health services locally and offshore, the bulk of it from the Department of Defence, although its biggest payday is providing health services to Australian Federal Police staff in the Solomons. As this glowing Canberra Times report explains, the company was formed just over a decade ago to take advantage of outsourcing of services by Britain's National Health Services, but quickly found success back in Australia at the state level.

The $20 million Ebola contract wasn't put out to tender, either open or limited: according to Aspen CEO Glenn Keys, the government approached Aspen last week -- i.e. in the 72 hours before the announcement -- after it and other companies had provided information about options for treatment. So why was Aspen chosen ahead of other private or non-profit bodies, especially when Aspen doesn't currently have any role in dealing with Ebola in West Africa? Why wasn't an open or limited tender process used, especially given the size of the contract? Some have pointed to the presence of former Liberal health minister Michael Wooldridge on the board of the company. Aspen is also represented in Canberra by Liberal-aligned lobbyists Barton Deakin, but Aspen's greatest successes in federal outsourcing came during the Labor years.

The presence of a figure like Wooldridge at such a company is standard: companies that specialise in government contracts tend to have former politicians, senior civil servants or military officers on their boards or at executive level (Keys' CV includes a "distinguished career in the Australian Army"). The UK outsourcing behemoth Serco has a number of former senior civil servants and military figures on its board (in Canberra, Liberal-aligned lobbyist David Gazard represents it), as does Serco Asia-Pacific, its local arm, in its executive team. Even with the Ebola contract, Aspen is only a tiddler compared to Serco's Australian operations: since January alone, Serco has secured over $220 million in contracts from the federal government. And while Serco is best known as the operator of Immigration detention centres, this year virtually all of its revenue has been from the Department of Defence, to which it provides everything from catering and clothing to base support and infrastructure maintenance services here and overseas.

The ethos behind Serco and other large service providers like International Health and Medical Services ($3.7 billion in contracts in the last six years) is simple: the private sector can deliver any government service more cheaply than the public sector, and the firm with the best connections to government and the public sector is best placed to secure contracts. But, conversely, they also offer the benefits of disconnection: if someone is murdered while under the care of a service provider, or contracts a life-threatening illness, or is sexually abused, or there is a failure that leads to injury, damage or financial loss, it's not the fault of a politician or even of a public servant. Responsibility is safely outsourced to the private sector, beyond the reach of normal accountability mechanisms. The benefits of outsourcing are political as much as financial.

That rat Woolridge is still making bucks out of the public trough after all this time. There's your explanation for the confused public stance: trying to figure out a way of moving the trough Woolridge's way, and the MSM made it easy.

Drugs
Jul 16, 2010

I don't like people who take drugs. Customs agents, for example - Albert Einstein
I wish Bill Shorten would get delisted

Drugs
Jul 16, 2010

I don't like people who take drugs. Customs agents, for example - Albert Einstein
Send Chris Bowen for a spell in the Magoos

Drugs
Jul 16, 2010

I don't like people who take drugs. Customs agents, for example - Albert Einstein
Trade Richard Marles for a third round pick in the Melbourne Uni SRC draft

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Gorilla Salad posted:

Politics isn't football. If your party stops representing your interests, you don't 'follow' them like a team having a bad season, hoping for change. You throw them to the loving curb.

It's interesting because there are small business owners and homosexuals and women and casual blue-collar racists out there who are still indefatigably loyal to the LNP for whatever reason and yet you could still see the packaging creases on half the rabbitohs jerseys at the NRL grand final

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
I want to shirtfront the NRL.

EDIT: Or wait, do I want to Hopoate the LNP?

EDIT: Yellow card the racists.

hooman fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Nov 11, 2014

Les Affaires
Nov 15, 2004

The Wallabies are now forming a standing committee on domestic violence at the 22 metre line.

Gough Suppressant
Nov 14, 2008
"Bill Shorten" "kicked" another "own goal"

Drugs
Jul 16, 2010

I don't like people who take drugs. Customs agents, for example - Albert Einstein
Nick Champion is an infield fly rule short of a penalty try

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abc-and-sbs-facing-200300-million-shared-cuts-over-five-years-20141111-11kecn.html

quote:

The ABC and SBS are facing swingeing cuts of up to $200 to $300 million over five years in the mid-year budget update, as the federal government prepares to announce the second round of savings it will demand of the broadcasters.
Sources from the broadcasters and government confirmed to Fairfax Media on Tuesday the magnitude of the cuts expected.

Friends of mine who work in public broadcasting are predicting that the ABC and SBS will be merged into one channel during Tony's second term

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Twitter quickly provides

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
Aren't people always mentioning in this thread that there's something particular to QLD Greens that makes them unappealing? I can't remember peoples' complaints but I remember it coming up more than once.

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Aren't people always mentioning in this thread that there's something particular to QLD Greens that makes them unappealing? I can't remember peoples' complaints but I remember it coming up more than once.

Apparently QLD Greens have a number of anti-vax types that make things unpleasant.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Goodbye NITV.

Quasimango
Mar 10, 2011

God damn you.

PaletteSwappedNinja posted:

Aren't people always mentioning in this thread that there's something particular to QLD Greens that makes them unappealing? I can't remember peoples' complaints but I remember it coming up more than once.

This is my ignorant/ cliched idea of each of the state Green parties:

NSW Greens: ex-communists
Victoria Greens: latte sipping/craft beer swilling hipsters
Queensland Greens: anti-GMO, anti vax, anti fluoride hippies
Tasmania Greens: tree-huggers
WA Greens: Scott Ludlam personality cult
SA Greens: um...something Sarah Hanson-Young
NT Greens: lol

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

CrazyTolradi posted:

Apparently QLD Greens have a number of anti-vax types that make things unpleasant.

So anti-vaxxer or the ALP. I should just choose none and call it quits.

CrazyTolradi
Oct 2, 2011

It feels so good to be so bad.....at posting.

Anidav posted:

So anti-vaxxer or the ALP. I should just choose none and call it quits.

None is the better option available to you, yes.

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you

quote:

Asked if Tony Abbott managed to "shirtfront" the Russian leader over the issue, as he had promised last month, a Kremlin spokesman said "it appears that he did not try".

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/no-shirtfront-tony-abbott-talks-to-vladimir-putin-at-apec-20141111-11k6uv.html

Read the comments. It is the one time ever you won't regret it.

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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Whenever I see someone use "The Left" I picture a huge buff dude with a massive right arm, typing on his keyboard angryly with it and this tiny withered away left arm.

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