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KataraniSword posted:It did get a remake! You know, it's so weird to me that we didn't get at least ONE of those remakes. 1 I get, but didn't FFL3 sell well enough over here to merit the interest? I dunno...I would have really liked to play those games without resorting to emulation. That's just me though.
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UmbreonMessiah posted:You know, it's so weird to me that we didn't get at least ONE of those remakes. 1 I get, but didn't FFL3 sell well enough over here to merit the interest? I dunno...I would have really liked to play those games without resorting to emulation. That's just me though. I'm with you. This was a hot topic in the Dragon Warrior/Quest thread a few weeks back, because DW7 came out on the 3DS in Japan and they apparently can't be arsed to localise it because DQ games don't sell too well in the US. There has been some outcry and apparently they are thinking about it now, but I'm not optimistic. It seems that most JRPG's apart from Final loving Fantasy don't have a great RoI in the west. I like the old FF games, especially 5, but 8 was disappointing and 10 and beyond are all a load of pisswhiffle. KataraniSword posted:It did get a remake! I can't find the correct emoticon, but you deserve a slap. I'd actually look into emulating that if it weren't assuredly in Japanese, which I regrettably cannot read. I can get away with that in game like Mega Man where there is almost no text, but in a text-heavy RPG there's no point in bothering. Edit: I just found an English translation of that Wonderswan port and a "fixed" ROM of FF1 (of which I've owned a cartridge copy for almost 20 years) in about 3 seconds of googling. Teach me to shut my cake socket. JustJeff88 fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Nov 7, 2014 |
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SaGa 2 (this game) and 3 (the next) both got massively overhauled remakes on the DS. The translation for this one is... mostly complete, from what I recall, while the next one's is almost 100%. They're changed up the formula, so to speak, a lot though in the process. It's simultaneously more and less arcane, IMO.
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Raitzeno posted:SaGa 2 (this game) and 3 (the next) both got massively overhauled remakes on the DS. The translation for this one is... mostly complete, from what I recall, while the next one's is almost 100%. They're changed up the formula, so to speak, a lot though in the process. It's simultaneously more and less arcane, IMO. The translation for Saga 2 is done as far as I know. I've done basically everything in the game and never saw any random Japanese. Worst thing I can say about it is there's a little cut-off in the menus mostly with regards to weapon stats (yes the DS version gives you weapon stats in game) and the side quest dialogue (yes there are sidequests in the DS version) could've used some more proof-reading. Still it's not bad enough to be worth crying over especially for a niche game like Saga The Saga 3 patch is done. As far as I'm concerned it's done. Everything's translated except for the names of tech combos which are glorious gibberish in Japanese anyway and any attempt to translate it will just make it worse.
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Am I the only one turned off by the fact that the SaGa 3 translation doesn't use the FFL3 official translation as its guide for pronouns?
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Chokes McGee posted:
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No need for thanks, Number Two...
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On balance, Final Fantasy X-2 (as dumb as THAT is) has a really fun battle system, but it does require you to broadly overlook much of the rest of the game's weirdness, which I guess could fairly be termed pisswhiffle, sure. Also, loved the Eversion aside.
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Choco1980 posted:Am I the only one turned off by the fact that the SaGa 3 translation doesn't use the FFL3 official translation as its guide for pronouns? It bothered me for a while, too, but then again, a Ted Woolsey localization is always a harshly divisive subject in translator communities, and FFL3 was his second (after FF4; as the story goes that when approached for FFL3, Squaresoft approached Woolsey with a copy of FF2 US and basically told him to "don't do it as bad as that") To be honest, the only thing that bothers me to this day about the remake using the Japanese names over Woolsey's is the name "Nemesis" instead of "Faye". One of these names is more or less a giant flashing neon sign that "this character is plot-relevant", whereas the other... well, isn't, and I think it helps the story to not be slapped across the face with that at every turn.
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Chokes McGee posted:Yay! Someone caught the reference! I still wonder just what the doctor was actually saying.
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KataraniSword posted:It bothered me for a while, too, but then again, a Ted Woolsey localization is always a harshly divisive subject in translator communities, and FFL3 was his second (after FF4; as the story goes that when approached for FFL3, Squaresoft approached Woolsey with a copy of FF2 US and basically told him to "don't do it as bad as that") No, FFL3 was his first project; he had nothing to do with FF4's translation (but they did tell him not to do as badly as FF4).
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Bear Sleuth posted:This is the dumbest reveal. I seriously considered putting something in later about Johnny actually not being a giant and making a running joke out of Sara being wrong about obvious things, but I don't want to push it too far. Also, I'm partial to the Dr. Captain reveal, myself. Also also, I will never get tired of writing Zero as Roy's dumbass little buddy. Ever.
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neongrey posted:No, FFL3 was his first project; he had nothing to do with FF4's translation (but they did tell him not to do as badly as FF4). I could've swore "you spoony bard" was entirely his doing. My mistake, then. Chokes McGee posted:Also also, I will never get tired of writing Zero as Roy's dumbass little buddy. Ever. A boy and his mutant. It's fantastic and I don't think we'll ever get tired of reading it. 
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We've all known a Zero (and all been a Zero) once in our lives.
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Goddamn it Chokes but your writing is quite brilliant. Very happy to come across this LP after discovering FFL in the archives a while back (and devouring it in short order). I'm probably laughing more than I should at the spellcasting, but you make it very hard not to.Chokes McGee posted:Wnes i wneud rywbeth! I did a thing!
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Celt des Ghoules posted:Goddamn it Chokes but your writing is quite brilliant. Very happy to come across this LP after discovering FFL in the archives a while back (and devouring it in short order). I'm probably laughing more than I should at the spellcasting, but you make it very hard not to. Dw yn licio siarad cymraeg 
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Apparently I'm daft because that's not registering with me.
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Word on the Wind posted:Apparently I'm daft because that's not registering with me. It's Welsh. "Wnes i wneud rywbeth!" literally means "I did something." It became a running joke during my FFL Let's Play that Rezen reading random latin phrases out of a book was how she cast spells, so I've played it forward to various other people in FFL2. If you go back and translate Zero's first spell, it should come out to "The dwarf is in my hat." I loves me some languages!
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Aha, now I understand. Thank you.
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Man, I loved this game as a kid. One of the first RPGs I ever played. Got to the end with IIRC a human, two espers, and a mech, at least the first time. The next few times, I did nearly every other combination, including an all mech party. Never an all monster party. I was never that curious. Loving the characters you're writing for.
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Just got caught up on this LP - absolutely love it! The mask reveal was pure awesomeness My first time playing this game (having played and beaten FFL) I saw robots and was like "OMGWTF!!!" and so made a party of 3 robots and a monster. Amazingly, I made it all the way to the end of the game before hitting a wall, and restarting.
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Hello, everyone! Sorry for the update delay, I've been involved in some very important things as of late that require my utmost attention. Also, I made this thing. Yup. Anyway, expect an update tomorrow-ish. The vast maority of the writing is done, which is always the hard part. Lots of mechanics this time around, a super neat level to explore, and ~plot developments~. Hope to see you there!
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Chokes McGee posted:Hello, everyone! Sorry for the update delay, I've been involved in some very important things as of late that require my utmost attention. Awwww, tiger-stripe domestic just like my Hope   . Newly adopted?
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Ciaphas posted:Awwww, tiger-stripe domestic just like my Hope Yup! Eight weeks old in the picture. He was suffering from kennel cough and constipation when we got him; he looked pretty miserable in the Humane Society's kitten containment unit, and my wife pretty much went AAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW and there it was. They had a pretty solid grey adult that I wanted too, but she couldn't be around other cats due to trauma  Anyway, some antibiotics and a dose of Miralax later, and he's a normal insane ball of fur, claws, and pounce. His file indicates he's DSH crossbreed, we think he has some American Shorthair in him due to the roundness of his face but it's really just speculation. Little guy friggin' adores me now since I was the one handling meds and wrangling e: Upon further review, he may be part Aegean. Neat! Chokes McGee fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Nov 12, 2014 |
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Chokes McGee posted:Hello, everyone! Sorry for the update delay, I've been involved in some very important things as of late that require my utmost attention. Is it named Byakko?
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FeyerbrandX posted:Is it named Byakko? Are you seriously suggesting I should name my kitten after a crazed tyrant who fears no one and subjugated his entire world simply because he thought it was his god given right to own it? Yeah,I don't know why I didn't think of it either.
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Chokes McGee posted:Are you seriously suggesting I should name my kitten after a crazed tyrant who fears no one and subjugated his entire world simply because he thought it was his god given right to own it? It beats naming your parakeet Suzaku. Too many birds die gibby chainsaw deaths as it is.
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Chapter 6: Little Big Men (Part 2)  Alright, let's get that micronizer. Ki's counting on us! It looks like there's a valley to the east. That must be the way to giant town. They built a giant wall? Well, yeah! They had giant builders! Huh. Well, keep an eye out for the entrance. Shouldn't be that hard to miss, what with bein' huge and all. Neat cliff. I didn't think the giants would live on a mesa, though. Seems kind of weird. Why? What if you fell off? Johnny wasn't kidding about those steps. Explains the cliff, at least! ... Uh. Is... is that a house? Omigod. We're not looking for Giant Town! We're in it!I love love love this area. It's just so incredibly well executed. You wander out of the regular town looking for a dungeon entrance or cave or something, and then you realize the town you were in literally lives in a patch of grass on Giant Town's lawn. You don't get the full effect until you wander past the extra large "town border" wall and see the steps and first building. It really drives home how very, very tiny you are. Giant Town, of course, is crawling with enemies. You'll see such exciting luminaries as...  Remember our first miniboss? (And no, I don't count the BabyWyrm.) Here they are as normal monsters! They're not nearly as threatening now and can be dispatched in two or three hits at most. Horn is still not fun, but it's tolerable now as opposed to an instagib. Plus, Heather can one-shot them now! If I feel like wasting a Battle Sword use, I mean. But still, it's really nice to see how far we've come.  Man, even the worms are big. If those are the worms, I'd hate to see the fish. Fish? Fish? I JUST GOT FREE FROM THE TACKLE BOX I CAN'T GO BACK THERE MAN Hey! Hi YAH Did he really have to die? He didn't seem all that bad. He's seen things he can't unsee, Sara. It's totally better this way.Get used to seeing this fight a lot. That's not necessarily a bad thing, as it coughs up at least 400-500 gold every time. Fiends and worms don't have a lot of HP, so if you have anywhere near decent enough crowd control, you can pad the hell out of your bank account. However, there's also...    *squish* Ew. Grody. He's a single cell organism, Heather. He can't help it. Awwww. Little guy's probably just hungry! What do amoebas eat, anyway? Adventurers, mostly.    IT BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRNS ? idgi Nobody actually says that out loud, dude.Amoebas can spam Dissolve and Acid. If you remember Mr. S, you know how worrisome this is. They're really the only major threat while wandering around this area, so home in and obliterate them as fast as possible. Fortunately, O-Poison blocks acid, and Heather is the only one without any abilities or gear to grant that. This also seems like a pertinent time to mention that, unlike other RPGs where they're merely a helpful feature, immunities are incredibly important in SaGa. A lot of the heaviest AoE attacks a boss will wield are elemental and can be blocked with a little Dissolve, though. Dissolve's bad right now. It hits hard, does non-elemental damage, and leeches HP. The HP restore doesn't even matter here; they won't live past a round of focused combat, so it's just kind of punting you in the ribs while you're down. Still, dissolve hurts. Don't let them do that.  Hey! I can see the secret passage from here! If you can see it from this far away, what's the point? Well, a giant wouldn't notice it if they're all the way up there. But... But that doesn't matter! The giants already know it's here! It's how they got out of their city! Hey! I can see the secret passage from here!    Well, here we are. Guess we better find that pharmacy. Oho! Hope they don't have any giant cats left. You really gotta keep thoughts like that to yourself, dude. Whatever, we can handle it. Let's go!  Protection lock engaged. Magi power insufficient to pass. No. Way. How does that even work? It's a mousehole! Maybe the mice were really, really advanced. Something something forty two! Again, nobody actually says that kind of stuff out loud. Hmm. How much magi is left in this world, Roy? *peers* Looks like just a couple. They wouldn't lock all the magi behind a magi-protected door. Why do you say that? Well, how would they get back in?Two years earlier... quote:
Yeah, I guess that wouldn't make any sense. Let's keep looking for magi!   Bingo. Man I bet those things are comfy. Seriously. Can you imagine laying on a bed the size of a room? Check it out! Treasure! That must be the magi! gimme You know, I'm kinda starting to wonder if we should really be giving Heather more power magi. Ehn. What's the worse that could happen? I am totally become Death, Destroyer of Worlds  We pick up a power magi (yaaaaaaaay) and a poison magi (meeeeeh) here. Each magi you collect really does make a huge difference. I think I mentioned it earlier, but equipping just one power magi doubled Heather's damage output way back in First World. As you start to rack them up, your guys get steadily more and more ridiculous. Even before this, our crew was pretty comfortable with the fights in this area, which is a very good sign. Heather's one-shotting with her axe and a low level martial art, Zero and Sara can blow away entire groups with their magic if things get bad, and we've got enough gold to keep everyone freshly stocked with gear. The only thing left to do is keep plinking away with those agility weapons from the back row and wait for those sweet, sweet agility points to come rolling in.   Magi levels acceptable. Welcome home, Jonathon. Johnny must've run the pharmacy out of his house. Explains why he knew so much about it. But why would the mousehole be locked? Try not to forget your keys this time! Oh. Ooh, a round thing! I love the round things. That must be the micronizer! There's still one left! Great! Now all we have to do is— -intruderalert|intruderalert- Whoops, n/m! Stop saying that kind of stuff out loud What... Roy? They have metal skin, just like me! -signaldetected|identify|selfrobo28|scanning- Hi! It's okay, we're friendly! Man, this is great. I can't believe I finally found— -modeldefective|aicorrupt|eliminate|eliminate-  *boom* Roy! ... That was a mistake.  *bzzkkpttpkt* Jeez. Remind me never to tick you off.The silver/crab/robo fight is unique to this building, and it's a few magnitudes of difficulty higher than what we've seen so far. Silvers will kick you in the head, and Robo-28s will blow you the gently caress up. Crabs won't do poo poo and can be laughed at with impunity. You'll notice that Sara just shelled out a massive amount of damage; she's been quietly leveling up agility as we've been going along, and I think I threw some agility magi on her at this point as well. I've got some endgame loadouts in mind right now, and Sara's well on her way; Zero, nnnnnot so much. Fortunately, we have something to make up the difference in the meantime. -threatlevelmiscalculation|reinforce|reinforce- Why are you doing this?! Roy! Pull yourself together! -neutralizeprimarythreat|eliminate|eliminate- No! I'm not fighting you! Move it, dude! *shove*  *boom* ... -sacrificeunexpected|recalibrate|recalculate- Leave my friend alone!  R-Roy?  Welcome to the moment I've been waiting for.  The SMG is the first crowd-control gun available. It's noticeably overpowered for this point of the game—which is odd, since it costs the same amount as a Battle Sword, which is way less impressive. But who cares, it's a friggin' SMG! These things will rip through entire groups of monsters, but at 6800 a pop for 30 shots, they ain't cheap. If you pick one up, you have to carefully measure the risks of losing the fight versus the expensive of taking a use off the stack and nah I'm just kidding, we give it to the robot. 15 shots of renewable SMG. It's not exactly breaking the game over our knee, but—at least for these next two sections—it's not far off. You okay, Zero? Oof. Dunno what that was, but I'm really hoping I don't get hit with it again. Thanks for the healing potion, Heather. That was actually my perfume. Glad it helped, though! ... Roy? Are you alright? I don't understand any of this. Why were those people made out of metal? Why did they attack us? Why do I keep finding all these weapons that attach to me? Maybe it's just 'cause you're awesome. Zero... No, I'm being serious here. Roy, I've known you since we were little. You kick rear end five ways to Sunday. Those guys were jerks. Totally! Besides, remember what Mr. S always said... ...quote:
Not really sure how that applies here. "...The color of your skin doesn't matter." Oh, that one! Yeah. That makes more sense. But why did they call me defective? It's like they knew who I was... Uh, clearly not if they called you that. Especially since you machine-gunned them to death afterwards! Okay I'm gonna be straight with you, that part was pretty awesome. Enough emo stuff! What's in the boxes?    Ooh! They're my size, too! Sure, if you like wearing knock-offs. There's nothing wrong with knock-offs. They're cheaper, and most people can't tell the difference. Besides, what does a brand name really buy you, anyway? Peace of mind? Okie doke, Johnny said we can scale these. Up we go!  And here it is! How does thing even work? Is there, like, a button, or...? Why don't you give me that? Hey! Why do you get to keep it? Because it doesn't shoot things, stab things, or play obnoxious music, so I'm clearly the only one qualified to handle it. You've gotten way sassier since we started this thing. I'm a product of my environment. Sweet. Looks like we're all set! You know, there's one thing I don't understand. The giants micronized and abandoned their city, right? Yeah? And it was because they couldn't get pants that fit. Right... What's stopping them from coming back after they find some? ... *stomp* *stomp* CHEESE IT OMIGOD OMIGOD GET BACK TO THE TUNNELS HELLO SMALL THINGS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANext Time: The Incredible Journey Chokes McGee fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Nov 14, 2014 |
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Asura United posted:How many Jonathans spell their names with an O at the end? None. Obviously. If they did, they'd be Jonathons, like the owner of that house.
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Asura United posted:How many Jonathans spell their names with an O at the end? There's just a lot of them in Giant Town. It's a John-a-thon! Anyway, I swear it's a valid alternate spelling.
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Chokes McGee posted:
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UmbreonMessiah posted:And since she's a mutant this is literal. Why is your writing so good, Chokes? 
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Man, one thing I absolutely love about this game is how well they establish place. This game has a crapton of different worlds you explore, and each world just feels completely thought out and crafted. It really goes. Long way towards why this is a Good Game.
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Giant's World is still one of my favorite places in this game just because it's so cool. I feel really bad that you can't do more in it, because I just love exploring things when you're small and everything is so huge. You just have to sit there thinking who made it and why and it's just so much fun. In this case that part of the mystery is solved, obviously, but running around like a tiny mouse in a huge environment is still really fun.
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Slightly off topic, but has anyone played the Wonderswan Colour adaptation of the first FFL? I'm not going to say that it looks better because all of the FFL games were very pretty for black-and-white, but it certainly is very twee. There's an English ROM out there and I just wondered if anyone had played it and how it differs.
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Even more off-topic, but if you like that sort of thing Chibi Robo and Pikmin might be to your liking if you've got an old gamecube sitting around somewhere, or can run Dolphin.
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Choco1980 posted:Man, one thing I absolutely love about this game is how well they establish place. This game has a crapton of different worlds you explore, and each world just feels completely thought out and crafted. It really goes. Long way towards why this is a Good Game. I've been playing through this, and I love how the game just constantly throws new environments at you. It never gets dull.
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