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feedmyleg posted:First Peggy Carter Clip Sort of like the 1940s version of Alias, then? Seems good to me. Who's in charge of running this series?
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irlZaphod posted:This weeks Gotham was awful and I have no idea if the creators want the audience to hate Barbara or what. She is literally the dumbest person on TV. Oh hey crazy mobsters want me and my boyfriend dead, but I got out of town so they can't get me. But I gotta go back, maybe I can reason with them, even though I have nothing to offer at all! Even from a plot reasons it was dumb. Lurdiak posted:Can't we move past these offensive stereotypes? Hot goth chick hackers?
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twistedmentat posted:Hot goth chick hackers? I was making a Brother Voodoo joke, but you know what, yes, we really need to move past hot goth chick hackers. gently caress you NCIS
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Even Skye in AoS have been upgraded to "hacker who karates and shoot people". Maybe even more than that if it ever turns out she has super powers. Unless her superpower is hacking with her brain. Coincidentally, Chris Hemsworth is playing a hacker in Michael Mann's new movie Blackhat. He's a hacker who is really buff and has military training.
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twistedmentat posted:Hot goth chick hackers? Felicity grew up just fine...
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Lurdiak posted:I was making a Brother Voodoo joke, but you know what, yes, we really need to move past hot goth chick hackers. It's DOCTOR Voodoo now. He finished his PHD sometime during Dark Reign. jscolon2.0 posted:Felicity grew up just fine... And we know at least where her choice in clothes comes from, like that dress she wore to Trivia Night in Central.
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twistedmentat posted:It's DOCTOR Voodoo now. He finished his PHD sometime during Dark Reign. The Dark Reign Voodoo mini seemed to have him running a medical practice. Unfortunately that mini was the only real use of Voodoo as Sorceror Supreme
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notthegoatseguy posted:The Dark Reign Voodoo mini seemed to have him running a medical practice. Unfortunately that mini was the only real use of Voodoo as Sorceror Supreme Dr Strange can't manage more then a miniseries every decade, Voodoo is z-list and an escapee from blaxploitation comics he got more then anybody expected.
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It took them three seasons but Arrow finally had the BOXING GLOVE ARROW tonight!
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Dacap posted:Flash at least is getting right into things and not spending an entire season slightly ashamed of their source material. Entire season? What?! Season 1 of Arrow had Merlyn the Archer/Magician threaten the city with his Markovian Earthquake Machine while doing his best Ozymandias impression.
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Dacap posted:Flash at least is getting right into things and not spending an entire season slightly ashamed of their source material. Haha that's actually a great way to do it. It's a thin line between good fan service and pandering but the CW DC shows walk that line very well.
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Dacap posted:Flash at least is getting right into things and not spending an entire season slightly ashamed of their source material. I'm so happy right now.
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Gaz-L posted:Entire season? What?! Season 1 of Arrow had Merlyn the Archer/Magician threaten the city with his Markovian Earthquake Machine while doing his best Ozymandias impression. Yeah I wouldn't say that Arrow was ever ashamed of the source material, it just took longer to establish the world. Flash has the bonus that Arrow has done the leg work in season 1 so it just starts crazy straight away. Though then again Flash has shown god drat Gorilla Grodd on team, added Clancy Brown as a recurring villain and will have a Zoom punch out by end of the first season so it's going to surpass Arrow no matter what.
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The MSJ posted:Even Skye in AoS have been upgraded to "hacker who karates and shoot people". Maybe even more than that if it ever turns out she has super powers. Unless her superpower is hacking with her brain. Speaking of which, Skye offhand mentioned having a hacker acquaintance named Micro who is really into crime scene photos. That made me grin.
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Another thing from the recent Agents of SHIELD episode for those who did not watch it is that they finally revealed what the symbols Coulson have been carving are about. It's possibly something from the comic books, the map of a city. Spoiler picture.
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Gavok posted:Speaking of which, Skye offhand mentioned having a hacker acquaintance named Micro who is really into crime scene photos. That made me grin. Yeah I wish Gotham would learn from AoS' "subtle" comic book references. Though it's not as bad as it was in the pilot with Kid Ivy...
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Medullah posted:Yeah I wish Gotham would learn from AoS' "subtle" comic book references. Though it's not as bad as it was in the pilot with Kid Ivy... At least they've stopped this bit: "You look like a penguin" Penguin: "STOP SAYING THAT ARRRRGGGHH"
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The MSJ posted:Another thing from the recent Agents of SHIELD episode for those who did not watch it is that they finally revealed what the symbols Coulson have been carving are about. It's possibly something from the comic books, the map of a city. Spoiler picture. Honestly, I don't think anyone who posts in BSS will be surprised that Coulson and Kraken are looking for Attilan. Nice that they're letting the show do the legwork to set up a movie, instead of waiting for a movie to do the legwork of making the show interesting.
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The MSJ posted:Even Skye in AoS have been upgraded to "hacker who karates and shoot people". Maybe even more than that if it ever turns out she has super powers. Unless her superpower is hacking with her brain. Skye doesn't really Karate people, she can shoot, but poo poo, you could teach anyone to be a decent shot given how much time she's been around people who are very proficient with guns. Her skill fighting level is probably only like one or maybe two levels above YCMA self defense class. only time she has successfully CQC'd someone is when they were completely underestimating her.
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Dexo posted:Skye doesn't really Karate people, she can shoot, but poo poo, you could teach anyone to be a decent shot given how much time she's been around people who are very proficient with guns. She's also cold as poo poo now. I think I've said "drat Skye!" at least 3-4 times this season.
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Waterhaul posted:Yeah I wouldn't say that Arrow was ever ashamed of the source material, it just took longer to establish the world. Flash has the bonus that Arrow has done the leg work in season 1 so it just starts crazy straight away. Zoom apparently is introed in the Christmas episode.
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mikeraskol posted:She's also cold as poo poo now. I think I've said "drat Skye!" at least 3-4 times this season. Skye became a legitimately good character once they ditched the native newcomer and social activist bullcrap. All of the main characters significantly improved and I say, it's mostly because they decided to drop the incredible bland stereotypes we started out with.
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e X posted:Skye became a legitimately good character once they ditched the native newcomer and social activist bullcrap. All of the main characters significantly improved and I say, it's mostly because they decided to drop the incredible bland stereotypes we started out with. Hmmm so it's almost like the show developed and improved over time and maybe the endless bitching and whining about it were premature. TNG would've never survived the Internet era.
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zoux posted:Hmmm so it's almost like the show developed and improved over time and maybe the endless bitching and whining about it were premature. The bitching and whining about the show being bad when it was bad was...premature?
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Dan Didio posted:The bitching and whining about the show being bad when it was bad was...premature? People expect shows to be incredible from day one and don't give writers and actors time to develop. I guess premature was the wrong word, but the level of vitriol directed at the show and the way SHIELD bashing would infect any topic remotely related to comic book shows was way out of proportion. Aphrodite posted:We would have been better off. But then no DS9 (another show that had a terrible first season).
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zoux posted:People expect shows to be incredible from day one and don't give writers and actors time to develop. I guess premature was the wrong word, but the level of vitriol directed at the show and the way SHIELD bashing would infect any topic remotely related to comic book shows was way out of proportion. Maybe it was out of proportion, I don't really know, but it's not like SHIELD had a rough first two or three episodes and then got into the groove. The vast majority of the first season was dire. People gave it a lot of chances.
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mikeraskol posted:She's also cold as poo poo now. I think I've said "drat Skye!" at least 3-4 times this season. The best was when Ward was showing all the different ways he tried to commit suicide with the last one being running headfirst into the wall. "You should have run faster."
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zoux posted:Hmmm so it's almost like the show developed and improved over time and maybe the endless bitching and whining about it were premature. redbackground fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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I thought they were hamstrung by the Cap 2 stuff. I mean, I watched the first couple of episodes and was like, "Yeah, this is a total binge show, I'll wait until it comes out on Netflix".
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zoux posted:Hmmm so it's almost like the show developed and improved over time and maybe the endless bitching and whining about it were premature. Nope. They basically dropped the entire social activist/hacker angle from her character and turned her into what she should have been from day one: a rookie agent with a specialization in computers. And how can criticizing a show when it is bad be premature? That is honestly, a pretty weird idea. It's not like the first couple of episodes are actually better in retrospective. If an episode was bad, I don't see what's wrong with saying it was bad, just because next weeks episode might be good. There is really no guarantee that any given show will improve at all. And Aos basically had a consecutive run of 16 bad episodes in row. e X fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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zoux posted:But then no DS9 (another show that had a terrible first season). I'm okay with that.
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There's a difference between having a new show be a tiny bit rough around the edges as everyone (including writers) find settle into the chemistry with each other and find the proper voices, and flat out boring story telling. Regardless of the restrictions placed on AoS during the first season, the story telling was bland and all of the "vitriol" directed at the show was always about how bland it was, not that it was the worst show in TV history. The only exaggerated responses I've seen consistently are from people defending the first season, at least on this website. I find it strange how the defensive people are so defensive about people wanting the like the show more and wishing it was better. Which it totally is now! Go figure!
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ToastyPotato posted:There's a difference between having a new show be a tiny bit rough around the edges as everyone (including writers) find settle into the chemistry with each other and find the proper voices, and flat out boring story telling. I'm also perplexed by the notion that somehow the show getting better justifies the weak start. Or even more bizarre, this weird idea that the show sucking at first and then getting better over time makes it better than if it was just good from the beginning. Like the show itself, not the story or characters, needed some kind of "arc". Like everyone knows there's no unwritten rule that stories must be dull and terrible at the beginning, right? Shows like Flash and Sleepy Hollow should be more than enough proof of that.
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