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evilskillit posted:Yeah, you'll find that I'm in the minority on FF7 dislike. Maybe the game could just never live up to the hype. I looked forward to FF7 so hard. I was going to get my nutrients from FF7 when it came out, I wouldn't need food anymore. Whatever followed 2 and 3 had to be the best thing ever. FF7 onward sucked, can we move on? "..." is not characterization, it's bullshit I'm mashing the button to move past. Nevermind he's a supersoldier or dead or some other bullshit nobody cares about. FF's went completely off the rails post-6 and have never considered coming back.
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chairface posted:FF7 onward sucked, can we move on? "..." is not characterization, it's bullshit I'm mashing the button to move past. Squall's the only protagonist to fit into that category, anyway, and even then only loosely. He's more of a standoffish rear end in a top hat than he is actually quiet. Zidane, Tidus, and Vaan are all the most upbeat, talkative characters in their games, barring maybe Rikku for Tidus, and Lightning is more angry than anything. The 'all FF protagonists spew '...'s everywhere' thing exists only in your hosed up mind. Endorph fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Nov 21, 2014 |
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Nov 21, 2014 05:38
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chairface posted:FF7 onward sucked, can we move on? "..." is not characterization, it's bullshit I'm mashing the button to move past. Nevermind he's a supersoldier or dead or some other bullshit nobody cares about. FF's went completely off the rails post-6 and have never considered coming back. If you never tried 12 it's decent and cathartic. Yes the protagonists are a teenage boy and girl but after the first few ten minutes of gameplay you can move them out of the active party and pretend they don't exist. I liked to think that Balthier and Fran are the protagonists, flying around the world on their air-ship and being generally awesome and that the two kids are just tag alongs and that they're told to shut up and get back in the cargo hold whenever possible. Not having transition screens between the fights and the streamlined combat went a long way towards making it easier to consume. I never finished it. I did that dumb thing where I got close to the end, then decided to go completionist on it, then got bored and quit before finishing it. But I enjoyed most of it and recommend it as a point of reference that Square could stop being poo poo if they just tried, or got lucky again, whatever happened. Endorph posted:Cloud's characterization isn't '...' and if you think it is you're an idiot. My mind is pretty rusty too, I do remember there being a story and they somehow developed Cloud, but I don't think he actually has any dialogue does he? *googles* According to the script I found he says stuff. I guess I just forgot or don't care. evilskillit fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Nov 21, 2014 |
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Nov 21, 2014 05:42
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Technically, Basch and Ashe are the main characters. They literally shoehorned Vaan and Penelo into the game because they would make more people buy the game.
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evilskillit posted:My mind is pretty rusty too, I do remember there being a story and they somehow developed Cloud, but I don't think he actually has any dialogue does he? *googles*
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Nov 21, 2014 05:45
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evilskillit posted:
"Don't care" is pretty much my response to Squeenix's output post FF6.
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Mill Village posted:Technically, Basch and Ashe are the main characters. They literally shoehorned Vaan and Penelo into the game because they would make more people buy the game. Honestly, based on just FFXII as we got it, Ashe is easily the main character by virue of being the only one who is consistenty important and the fate of the world revolving around her character development and decision. After her I'd say Balthier is the most significant character. I liked Basch since I think Gabranth is the best character in the game but he really was kinda pointless a majority of the time.
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NikkolasKing posted:Honestly, based on just FFXII as we got it, Ashe is easily the main character by virue of being the only one who is consistenty important and the fate of the world revolving around her character development and decision. Basch was a lot at stake as well. After all, Gabranth took advantage of their similar appearance to frame him in the assassination of the Dalmascan king Raminas.
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Nov 21, 2014 05:53
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chairface posted:"Don't care" is pretty much my response to Squeenix's output post FF6. TWEWY is better than every FF
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Cake Attack posted:Sleeping Dogs is better than every FF
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Nov 21, 2014 06:01
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that is not what i said, and it is not something i want to say
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Nov 21, 2014 06:02
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I liked FF7 as a 15 year old. There's no way any future iteration version of me would have liked that game though. I'm glad I played it when I did.
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Xenogears is better than any FF. ....what? Mill Village posted:Basch was a lot at stake as well. After all, Gabranth took advantage of their similar appearance to frame him in the assassination of the Dalmascan king Raminas. That's true. I like Basch and that's why I wish he got more focus. Honestly, FFXII felt like a game more about the antagonists than the protagonists a lot of the time.
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evilskillit posted:If you never tried 12 it's decent and cathartic. Yes the protagonists are a teenage boy and girl but after the first few ten minutes of gameplay you can move them out of the active party and pretend they don't exist. I liked to think that Balthier and Fran are the protagonists, flying around the world on their air-ship and being generally awesome and that the two kids are just tag alongs and that they're told to shut up and get back in the cargo hold whenever possible. Not having transition screens between the fights and the streamlined combat went a long way towards making it easier to consume. I never finished it. I did that dumb thing where I got close to the end, then decided to go completionist on it, then got bored and quit before finishing it. But I enjoyed most of it and recommend it as a point of reference that Square could stop being poo poo if they just tried, or got lucky again, whatever happened. FF12 is great if you don't play it for 100% completion. That poo poo will sap anyone's will to live. I do like the fact that the script takes so many digs at Vaan for being useless and immature, but he actually gets a good deal of development in a few scenes like the Jahara nighttime scene that make him a lot less grating. In fact, I'd say FF12's plot and script are pretty drat good as a whole, both the earlier more FFT-ish political intrigue and the later stuff about the Space Ghost Illuminati and magical nukes. No idea why the game's plot is regarded as dull.
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FF7 is a mechanically excellent RPG with a solid enough story that at the time was a technical marvel, especially coming off what constituted "good graphics" in the 16-bit era. Unfortunately it suffers today from being technically dated and from being unfairly associated with both the later questionable Final Fantasy games and its own toxic fanbase. Not to mention all the side games/movies/materials taking place in the FF7 universe that range from boringly forgettable to outright embarrassing.
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Cake Attack posted:TWEWY is better than every FF Love TWEWY, it's a great game and an excellent RPG. It probably is better then most FF games or pretty much anything else. So is Chrono Trigger. That said, VII to me was best FF for some reason. Yes, I loved VI and FFI when I played it on NES was exceptional at the time, but VII struck that right chord for some reason. Super Jay Mann posted:FF7 is a mechanically excellent RPG with a solid enough story that at the time was a technical marvel, especially coming off what constituted "good graphics" in the 16-bit era. Unfortunately it suffers today from being technically dated and from being unfairly associated with both the later questionable Final Fantasy games and its own toxic fanbase. Not to mention all the side games/movies/materials taking place in the FF7 universe that range from boringly forgettable to outright embarrassing. Well, yes, FFVII the game was great, everything else around it pretty much was terrible. Not sure what the hell happened there. Some of the mods that are floating around can help with graphics but it's still an issue.
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NikkolasKing posted:Xenogears is better than any FF. No, no it's not. It might have been if 1/2 the budget didn't get cut.
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Nov 21, 2014 06:52
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NikkolasKing posted:Xenoblade is better than any FF.
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Stop shitposting everyone, you all know that Nannyquest is objectively the best rpg. Anyways someone suggested I play Infinite Undiscovery and it looks neat. Anyone have an opinion on the game?
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Mr. Sunabouzu posted:Stop shitposting everyone, you all know that Nannyquest is objectively the best rpg. dinner, dinner, dinner
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Mr. Sunabouzu posted:Stop shitposting everyone, you all know that Nannyquest is objectively the best rpg. Surely, there is a better game on a number of systems that you can get your hands on or emulate that you could play than that. It's terrible. It's not SO4 terrible but still a bad game. Even Blue Dragon is better.
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Gameplay is pretty solid, but some of the cutscenes are cringeworthy. Like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlHZrBUimuY&t=117s
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Nov 21, 2014 07:33
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'infinite undiscovery' is a pretty accurate name for the game
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The gently caress am I watching here.
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Nov 21, 2014 07:34
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because there's nothing new in it so it's undiscovery and it's infinite anyone?
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Endorph posted:because there's nothing new in it 4/10
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I like shadow heart does anyone else like lost odyssey?
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SodomyGoat101 posted:Gameplay is pretty solid, but some of the cutscenes are cringeworthy. Like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlHZrBUimuY&t=117s at least he's not tucking in a child on a space ship
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Super Jay Mann posted:FF7 is a mechanically excellent RPG with a solid enough story that at the time was a technical marvel, especially coming off what constituted "good graphics" in the 16-bit era. Unfortunately it suffers today from being technically dated and from being unfairly associated with both the later questionable Final Fantasy games and its own toxic fanbase. Not to mention all the side games/movies/materials taking place in the FF7 universe that range from boringly forgettable to outright embarrassing. Ummm Crisis Core owns actually, soz
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Valkyria Chronicles just got a patch, which is nice:SEGA posted:Patch Update 21/11/2014 Looks like pretty much everything people were having problems with, so that's pretty cool.
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SodomyGoat101 posted:Gameplay is pretty solid, but some of the cutscenes are cringeworthy. Like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlHZrBUimuY&t=117s
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Nov 21, 2014 15:50
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Yes, basically. He's described as an awkward idiot pretty much.
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Remember when Microsoft consoles got exclusive JRPG's? Crazy times.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:The gameplay gets stale, but I'd say it's worth picking up for the bizarre humor and huge amounts of pretty princess dressup with your guns. Scope stacking for everyone, always. Mr. Sunabouzu posted:Anyways someone suggested I play Infinite Undiscovery and it looks neat. Anyone have an opinion on the game?
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Mr. Sunabouzu posted:Stop shitposting everyone, you all know that Nannyquest is objectively the best rpg. That's about all I remember from playing the game.
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Sakurazuka posted:Remember when Microsoft consoles got exclusive JRPG's? Crazy times. Yeah. Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vesperia. They gave a good effort for about 2 years then just stopped. That was unfortunate.
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oblomov posted:Yeah. Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Tales of Vesperia. They gave a good effort for about 2 years then just stopped. That was unfortunate. Man I loved Lost Odyssey too 
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I don't remember a single thing about Infinite Undiscovery except that I liked it. It's not a memorable game at all but it's enjoyable if you just want to play a mediocre JRPG over the week-end (it's pretty short).
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Nov 21, 2014 22:02
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I remember the moon being chained down for some reason.
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I remember it having a bunch of missable cheevos that nudged my OCD in unpleasant ways but literally nothing else.
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