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Foley was dead on in a recent interview he did where the said the Authority has too much power. Like there's no real getting over on them, because they're the boss and they can fire you. When it's a little more balanced, it's more entertaining.
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Vince was the same. The key difference was that Austin was able to piss him off so much Vince skipped firing him in favour of trying to get him beaten up more, and/or Austin would be fired and didn't give a poo poo and came back the next week anyway. The Authority isn't getting pissy. They're just smug and constantly right. Lose decisively at a PPV? Oh well, we've somehow turned Seth Rollins to our side in less than 24 hours. Cena's champion? Oh well, here's Brock Lesnar. Win Survivor Series or be thrown out? Oh well, we'll just fire, maim and threaten everybody else and nobody on this roster will fight back other than Cena who makes us a fucktonne of money anyway so that's fine. The Authority don't need their power removed, they just need to actually take a real blow for once and sell it.
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Nov 21, 2014 14:27
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pressedbunny posted:Vince was the same. The key difference was that Austin was able to piss him off so much Vince skipped firing him in favour of trying to get him beaten up more, and/or Austin would be fired and didn't give a poo poo and came back the next week anyway. The Authority isn't getting pissy. They're just smug and constantly right. Lose decisively at a PPV? Oh well, we've somehow turned Seth Rollins to our side in less than 24 hours. Cena's champion? Oh well, here's Brock Lesnar. Win Survivor Series or be thrown out? Oh well, we'll just fire, maim and threaten everybody else and nobody on this roster will fight back other than Cena who makes us a fucktonne of money anyway so that's fine. The Authority don't need their power removed, they just need to actually take a real blow for once and sell it. Vince worked because he was eventually driven mad by Austin. He stopped wanting Austin to be fired, or even drop the title, he wanted to keep Austin in the company just so he could finally beat him up.
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Nov 21, 2014 14:37
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It wasn't even that long where Hunter was so mad at Daniel that he had to be dragged to the back frothing and screaming. That was great. Hunter and Stephanie are Mary Sue characters.
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Nov 21, 2014 14:39
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I remember a segment where Mankind asked Vince why he just didn't fire Austin since he hated him so much and Vince's answer was "because he makes me money."
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Nov 21, 2014 14:40
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Yeah, it was the one where he fired Foley. "The reason I keep him around is that he makes me rich. You just make me sick. You're fired."
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Nov 21, 2014 14:58
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Writer Cath posted:It wasn't even that long where Hunter was so mad at Daniel that he had to be dragged to the back frothing and screaming. That was great. They might as well just made it Cena vs Triple H and left everyone else out of this.
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Nov 21, 2014 15:31
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Calling it now, the Authority gonna get replaced by Brad Maddox. Makes sense since he was fired as GM during the whole Shield/Evolution feud and he's the only recent manager-type character who could conceivably be Vince's hand-picked replacement. Also, his personal bodyguards will be the new Nation of Inspiration who will get big pushes and win all the belts.
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Nov 21, 2014 15:36
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Foley and Edge and Christian should all take over as GMs, not just Foley.
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Nov 21, 2014 15:37
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All this Lesnar "will he go to UFC or is he using it as leverage against Vince for another contract" talk seems so stupid to me. Hasn't it been proven that isn't anywhere near worth what he is currently making in regards to drawing power? Why in the world would WWE resign him for a similar or larger payday in the current economic climate of the company? What say you, numbers guys?
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Nov 21, 2014 15:42
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Wrestling is fake, so Brock Lesnar is worth what WWE makes him worth. They chose to take a super hot free agent, pay him lots of money, and have him lose his very first match back. They also totally revamped their PPV business model to a new one where paying a single person for a PPV appearance no longer makes sense. Lesnar might not be worth that money, but WWE certainly didn't do much to try and make him be worth it, and I certainly can't begrudge him for taking it. Millions and millions for 11 matches in a few years? loving awesome.
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Nov 21, 2014 15:44
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I thought that last word was they'll let this contract finish up and be done with him since he isn't drawing. It's not totally his fault, but they know they can't afford him. So he'll put over Reigns at Wrestlemania and that'll be it.
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Tato posted:Wrestling is fake, so Brock Lesnar is worth what WWE makes him worth. They chose to take a super hot free agent, pay him lots of money, and have him lose his very first match back. They also totally revamped their PPV business model to a new one where paying a single person for a PPV appearance no longer makes sense. I don't begrudge Brock one bit for taking the money. Wouldn't if he did it again either. I love a wrestler having them by the balls for once. That being said, my point was does it make any fiscal sense for WWE? Also, thanks for pointing out wrestling is fake.
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Codependent Poster posted:So he'll put over Remember Cena is NUMBER ONE CONTENDER now, again.
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Nov 21, 2014 15:57
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I don't think it makes any financial sense for them, but who knows if that has any bearing on their decision making process. The Network model has completely upended things now, so that the numbers for one single PPV (besides stuff like RR and WM) are less important than they were before. Brock's contract may have had a chance of paying off back under the old model where you could get enough people to pay for a PPV to justify his salary, but now that's out the window. It seems like if they ever get to their ideal Network subscription rate, they'll be so flush with cash they won't mind shelling out for the occasional big name guest star. But they're far from that at the moment so the Lesnar contract seems like a total waste to extend. Using him to build up Reigns would be the most they could get out of him. So he'll probably end up losing to Cena.
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ColonelJohnMatrix posted:I don't begrudge Brock one bit for taking the money. Wouldn't if he did it again either. I love a wrestler having them by the balls for once. That being said, my point was does it make any fiscal sense for WWE? For WWE? Probably not. For UFC he would make a difference as a draw and for Bellator it would be a game-changer. I don't know how much money Bellator (through Viacom) has to play with though.
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Nov 21, 2014 15:57
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Wasn't Brock forced to retire from the UFC from all the damage his stomach illness did to him?
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flashy_mcflash posted:For WWE? Probably not. For UFC he would make a difference as a draw and for Bellator it would be a game-changer. I don't know how much money Bellator (through Viacom) has to play with though. This is a Scott Coker-era Bellator, reminder that he hates money and loves making big name fights so expect to see Fedor vs Lesnar in a pit of money shoot-style match soon on Spike
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Nov 21, 2014 16:31
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RagingHematoma posted:Wasn't Brock forced to retire from the UFC from all the damage his stomach illness did to him? He wasn't forced to retire but he wasn't quite the same fighter afterwards. I don't pretend to know how much of it was lasting damage vs just getting older and not being able to train for a while. Dana has said that he and Brock still talk regularly and he'd be happy to bring him back.
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RagingHematoma posted:Wasn't Brock forced to retire from the UFC from all the damage his stomach illness did to him? No, he retired because he came back too soon and this man happened  and did this 
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Nov 21, 2014 16:35
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MassRafTer posted:They'd never do it but if they have a prospect who is there as a talker but needs work in the ring it'd be great to see the old President character come back. Just a guy we aren't told much about, he's on the board or whatever and he's there to rule against the faces when need be and make some other announcements, slowly generating heat until you think he's ready in the ring. But Raw just needs these authority figures to be there nearly every show so joy we'll get another one. Shaun Ricker would have been great for this but he was fired so oh well oatgan fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Nov 21, 2014 |
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Nov 21, 2014 16:57
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He tested positive for PEDs after that fight so I can't knock Lesnar much on that one. Overeem could be the next Bob Sapp if he wanted to get in on that sort of thing.
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Nov 21, 2014 16:59
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:Overeem could be the next Bob Sapp if he wanted to get in on that sort of thing. The world needs more fighters who spin in circles as they get kicked.
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Nov 21, 2014 17:07
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You know it is really going to suck if Team Authority loses and they do the whole thing on Raw where Vince comes out to personally fire them, but something interrupts Vince and because of that the Authority is still in power.
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Nov 21, 2014 17:32
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achillesforever6 posted:You know it is really going to suck if Team Authority loses and they do the whole thing on Raw where Vince comes out to personally fire them, but something interrupts Vince and because of that the Authority is still in power. That something will be Linda McMahon.
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achillesforever6 posted:You know it is really going to suck if Team Authority loses and they do the whole thing on Raw where Vince comes out to personally fire them, but something interrupts Vince and because of that the Authority is still in power. It'd also really suck if Team Cena loses and Vince comes out to interrupt the Authority before they can fire Cena and his dumb idiot pals. What sucks the most is that one of these two sucky options are a near-certainty.
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Nov 21, 2014 17:36
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They should have made the stip that the losing team has to be the winning team's PERSONAL ASSISTANTS!
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Nov 21, 2014 17:37
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Whatever team loses, they will just do like John Cena when he was fired and show up every week anyway without changing a thing. Or they'll mumble something about boards, executives, commissioners, and power, as the power structure of WWE is amorphous, makes no sense, and changes as they need it to. WWE needs someone with mutant powers to show up, yell "NO MORE AUTHORITY FIGURES," and will them all out of existence. Then maybe wrestling as a whole can move out of the 90s.
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Great White Hope posted:That something will be Linda McMahon. This is giving me a hazy flashback... didn't they try turning Linda heel once before?
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triplexpac posted:This is giving me a hazy flashback... didn't they try turning Linda heel once before? Kicked JR in the balls, although I don't know if anything else came of it.
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Nov 21, 2014 17:43
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Gonzo McFee posted:Kicked JR in the balls, although I don't know if anything else came of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMKP2UHeOa8
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Nov 21, 2014 17:49
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Tato posted:WWE needs someone with mutant powers to show up, yell "NO MORE AUTHORITY FIGURES," and will them all out of existence. Then maybe wrestling as a whole can move out of the 90s.
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Nov 21, 2014 17:51
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flashy_mcflash posted:It'd also really suck if Team Cena loses and Vince comes out to interrupt the Authority before they can fire Cena and his dumb idiot pals. The rest of his team? Well, sucks to be them.
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Nov 21, 2014 17:55
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They should just drop all pretenses and make Cena the new authority figure. He already basically runs the company and always gets what he wants so they should make that explicit.
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Nov 21, 2014 17:58
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triplexpac posted:They should have made the stip that the losing team has to be the winning team's PERSONAL ASSISTANTS! I wouldn't want Luke Harper to be my personal assistant. That seems unsafe.
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Perigryn posted:Eh, even if they did get fired, Cena will just keep showing up because he's such a swell guy that every security guard in the country lets him into the arena...because he earned their respect. I know Cena hustles, and he probably respects the fans, but I'm really doubting his loyalty these days
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Nov 21, 2014 17:58
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HAY GUYZ MAYBE THIS IS CENA FINALLY TURNING, RIGHT?!
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Nov 21, 2014 17:58
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Sure he will. He'll get in the ring, turn his foot and laugh.
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Nov 21, 2014 17:59
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Cena probably hates wrestling fans more than Vince and Dunn combined.
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Not sure where to put this so I figure it'll go here:Internet News Site posted:Screeching Weasel frontman Ben Foster, aka Ben Weasel, posted the following on Facebook regarding former WWE Superstar CM Punk: I can't even.
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