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Murodese posted:I didn't actually look at who the Q Society were until just now, that's pretty funny. I was really disappointed the first time I discovered they weren't a John de Lancie fan club.
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Murodese posted:Yes, but social media has a youth bias and youth has a progressive bias. This is, somehow, irrelevant when we're talking about long-term decision-making primarily affecting the current youth audience, for whatever reason. It's not actually that relevant from the POV of the narrative-creators in any internet medium, they're hip to it. They just use it as the typical battering ram the Right always does. Endless tweets from fellow-travellers of candidates, facebook pages "just sayin", and that's not even getting started with the bots and trolls if you happen to get serious notice with an unapproved opinion. I think news.com.au is shifting its focus to compete with the British imports and it spends as much time on tabloid irrelevancy as it does on politics, a slightly nicer Hun in fact.
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Briefly interrupting IWC chat to remind people John de Lancie owns. That is all.
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Sanguine posted:(2GB/News Ltd/Coalition vs ABC/Fairfax/Social Media/Labor-Left/Greens) I've actually heard a Liberal supporters claim that Facebook is 'overrun with left-wing bias'. I don't know either.
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Anidav posted:https://www.facebook.com/pages/STOP-the-70m-Islamic-BOYS-Boarding-School-Mareeba-QLD/696007740495055 You should join them, you might make some more friends!
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Yo Chaser didn't stop being funny because Labor got in, they stopped being funny because they were only ever good at making a public nuisance of themselves and they eventually hit a point where they couldn't do that anymore. Vale The Roast.
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Gough Suppressant posted:You should join them, you might make some more friends! Nah mate, my next set of friends will be in The Greens right after I'm done campaigning for Kate Jones, I swear.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Yo Chaser didn't stop being funny because Labor got in, they stopped being funny because they were only ever good at making a public nuisance of themselves and they eventually hit a point where they couldn't do that anymore. That's not entirely true. A lot of Howard government ministers were extremely easy to satirise, as well.
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Gough Suppressant posted:There are only two funny Australian TV people and one of them is a New Zealander Ah yes, Derryn Hinch 
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Murodese posted:That's not entirely true. A lot of Howard government ministers were extremely easy to satirise, as well. Is the outlook from then all that different from now? I can't tell, since I wasn't really paying attention to politics until the 2007 election.
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Murodese posted:Out of curiosity not-IWC, what's your opinion on an Islamic school being privately founded? I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be allowed given that other groups can do it. Unfortunately a lot of Islamic schools around the world are funded with Saudi money designed to promote Wahhabi Islam which I hardly need to say is a violent, intolerant, homophobic and misogyny type of religion. So I guess the question we need to ask ourselves is do we want more kids in Australia to be indoctrinated with violence, intolerance homophobia and misogyny.
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Gough Suppressant posted:Are you implying that the q society would commission a poll which maximised the chances of presenting anti-Islamic views? It's a morgan poll, please learn to read.
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Ian Winthorpe III posted:It's a morgan poll, please learn to read. Which is why I said the Q Sociey commissioned the poll, not conducted it, please learn to read.
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Ian Winthorpe III posted:So I guess the question we need to ask ourselves is do we want more kids in Australia to be indoctrinated with violence, intolerance homophobia and misogyny. But enough about the status quo.
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Ian Winthorpe III posted:So I guess the question we need to ask ourselves is do we want more kids in Australia to be indoctrinated with violence, intolerance homophobia and misogyny.
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Complicated question: what actually has more impact on the average Australian's life, the decisions of the federal government or the decisions of their particular state government? I have a gut feeling that despite the general focus on federal politics, it's the state. But I don't know!
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freebooter posted:Complicated question: what actually has more impact on the average Australian's life, the decisions of the federal government or the decisions of their particular state government? I have a gut feeling that despite the general focus on federal politics, it's the state. But I don't know! First define an average Australian. Welfare is handled through the Feds so that has a major impact on many many people.
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The Welfare Lobby posted:I've actually heard a Liberal supporters claim that Facebook is 'overrun with left-wing bias'. I have no data to back this up, but it seems that me that Twitter is heavily left wing, but Facebook has a considerable right-wing 'community'.
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Quasimango posted:I have no data to back this up, but it seems that me that Twitter is heavily left wing, but Facebook has a considerable right-wing 'community'. Twitter has PLENTY of right wing people so I don't think it's heavily left wing. The things that go viral are usually left'ish but I bring that down to the incompetence of the right do anything of the sort. you'll find most of the right wingers on any sporting event hash tag.
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freebooter posted:Complicated question: what actually has more impact on the average Australian's life, the decisions of the federal government or the decisions of their particular state government? The answer is Muslims.
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Sanguine posted:(2GB/News Ltd/Coalition vs ABC/Fairfax/Social Media/Labor-Left/Greens) The Australian commonly rails against twitter for some reason, even though it's really just a platform for anyone with an internet connection and a bile duct. It seems to be to do with twitter being new media (new media bad, is not fact checked, is the hive of young people, CITIZEN JOURNALISTS etc.) and I think being a fairly direct speaking medium, it doesn't broadcast through an 'institution' like a newspaper, so of course conservative types rail against it as being an out of control den of bullies, trolls and misinformation. Also people can call them out on their bullshit directly over twitter rather than through the letters page (or a Media Watch segment) so they complain about being ganged up on by the twitterati.
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Avshalom posted:I saw a Muslim once. it was actually Chris Lilley in brownface
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Pred1ct posted:The Australian commonly rails against twitter for some reason, The Australian is against anything that lets people access news (or any content really) except through them (or other approved news corp service that the punters pay for).
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freebooter posted:I used to buy the Australian because I lived in WA and a lovely broadsheet is better than a lovely tabloid. The Oz is a million times worse than the West, but neither are worth buying. Get the AFR instead.
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Murodese posted:The Oz is a million times worse than the West, but neither are worth buying. Get the AFR instead. For all your mark Latham pregnant/woman/sadbrains bashing needs
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Nuclear Spy posted:I checked out #fisher on Twitter and saw this tweet about one of the candidates:
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freebooter posted:Complicated question: what actually has more impact on the average Australian's life, the decisions of the federal government or the decisions of their particular state government? I have a gut feeling that despite the general focus on federal politics, it's the state. But I don't know! It's the federal government of course, and has been increasingly so since federation, partially because the commonwealth controls taxation and appropriation and also because the last 100 years of constitutional law has been an exercise in eroding state power. Which is good, because state governments on the whole throughout the last century have been complete poo poo.
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Nuclear Spy posted:Follow up to this - a number of candidates for this by-election were interviewed on radio this morning. I am good friends with the Greens candidate and while she absolutely smashed the interview, the independent candidate went a bit crazy. In the end it was revealed that despite running on the platform of continuing the legacy of Bob Such, the independent candidate who passed away that triggered this by-election, he doesn't necessarily agree with Such's policies (on euthanasia, marriage equality etc.) but believes the electorate will vote for him for the sake of having another independent representing the area. Stephen Marshall was apparently up and down my street handing out how to vote cards and having a chat with residents about Heidi Harris today. Wish I'd been about. I'm voting for the Green candidate. Will be interesting to see if she improves on her primary from the main election, but really on a hiding to nothing in an electorate filled with retirement villages.
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NTRabbit posted:Stephen Marshall was apparently up and down my street handing out how to vote cards and having a chat with residents about Heidi Harris today. Wish I'd been about. 
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