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Sir Kodiak posted:Barry subconsciously wants his identity to be outed so that Iris can know he's the Flash without breaking his promise to his surrogate father. "Oh, I didn't tell her, I just told literally everybody else." I think she'd still miss the memo.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Didn't see this anywhere: Ahhhh oh my god
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Dec 13, 2014 01:52
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Anyone remotely doubting Wells is a time traveller need only look at the clever name they gave him. Harrison Wells. H. Wells. Huh, I wonder what his middle initial is?
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Dec 13, 2014 01:54
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ProfessorLoomis posted:Anyone remotely doubting Wells is a time traveller need only look at the clever name they gave him. Harrison Wells. H. Wells. His future newspaper computer is named Gideon.
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Dec 13, 2014 01:58
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PaganGoatPants posted:I think she'd still miss the memo. Barry could put it om a billboard outside of Jitters, and Iris would still not catch on.
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Dec 13, 2014 02:23
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Heathen posted:His future newspaper computer is named Gideon.
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Dec 13, 2014 02:50
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DC is doing promotional covers for their comics coming out in March. The Flash one looks pretty decent.
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Dec 13, 2014 02:56
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Party Plane Jones posted:DC is doing promotional covers for their comics coming out in March. The Flash one looks pretty decent. artist while drawing this: *dontdrawaswasticadontdrawaswasticadontdrawaswastica* "drat."
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Dec 13, 2014 03:27
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Not sure what you means, it's almost exactly North by Northwest obiviously with flash and different text.
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Dec 13, 2014 03:33
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I think something that's been overlooked in the Barry's-Mom-Death discussion is that the water in his fish tank was floating before his mom was killed. The only other time that happened is when the particle accelerator was activated and Barry got his powers.This leads me to believe that something is special about that specific night beyond just Barry's mom dying. I've never read the comics, so I'm excited to find out what that means.
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Dec 13, 2014 04:09
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Rocksicles posted:Not sure what you means, it's almost exactly North by Northwest obiviously with flash and different text. I didnt realize it was parodying anything im a cultureless hack. so my bad joke is also ill founded Sokani posted:I think something that's been overlooked in the Barry's-Mom-Death discussion is that the water in his fish tank was floating before his mom was killed. The only other time that happened is when the particle accelerator was activated and Barry got his powers.This leads me to believe that something is special about that specific night beyond just Barry's mom dying. I've never read the comics, so I'm excited to find out what that means.
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Dec 13, 2014 04:19
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Didn't see this anywhere: These are the interstitial frames of a GIF morphing George HW Bush into Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park.
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Dec 13, 2014 05:47
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Rocksicles posted:Not sure what you means, it's almost exactly North by Northwest obiviously with flash and different text. It's because for March DC is releasing a slew of film inspired variant covers.
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Dec 13, 2014 06:11
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Rhyno posted:It's because for March DC is releasing a slew of film inspired variant covers. Yeah i had heard, but i hadn't seen any of them until that Flash one
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Dec 13, 2014 06:20
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I got a unusual question, trying to find the answer. Have the producers ofthe show said they would or would not use the Ballad of Barry Allen in the show. Cause seriously.
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Dec 13, 2014 06:26
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Sokani posted:I think something that's been overlooked in the Barry's-Mom-Death discussion is that the water in his fish tank was floating before his mom was killed. The only other time that happened is when the particle accelerator was activated and Barry got his powers.This leads me to believe that something is special about that specific night beyond just Barry's mom dying. I've never read the comics, so I'm excited to find out what that means. 32MB OF ESRAM posted:I wonder if a tachyon speed suit would cause that Was going to say this, except less to do with tachyons. It's possible the water levitating when Barry was hit was a function not of the particle accelerator itself, but of whatever specific force/energy/whatever that came down and gave him his powers. Perhaps in replicating the Flash's powers, the suit replicates that energy field and you get a similar effect.
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Dec 13, 2014 06:28
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Hollismason posted:I got a unusual question, trying to find the answer. Have the producers ofthe show said they would or would not use the Ballad of Barry Allen in the show. Cause seriously. Well the ballad of barry allen's "plot" doesn't align with how they've portrayed barry's speed, so probably not, even discounting all the rights issues.
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Dec 13, 2014 06:40
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Windows 98 posted:Well that's what I mean. The mere fact that he already knows it could be from knowledge of the future seeing how Oliver sucks balls at keeping his identity a secret. I don't think Wells knew the answer when he asked Felicity, because he would have had no reason to look it up before then. He might have time travel ability, but he isn't exactly omnipotent. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of his knowledge of the future comes from his super-computer Gideon, which seems to provide the knowledge by doing a database search of some sort. So after Felicity refused to provide the answer, he probably went and asked Gideon to figure it out.
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Dec 13, 2014 06:53
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enraged_camel posted:I don't think Wells knew the answer when he asked Felicity, because he would have had no reason to look it up before then. He might have time travel ability, but he isn't exactly omnipotent. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of his knowledge of the future comes from his super-computer Gideon, which seems to provide the knowledge by doing a database search of some sort. So after Felicity refused to provide the answer, he probably went and asked Gideon to figure it out. It's also possible that he was told off screen, before the meeting, which is why he knew it was Oliver when they met. I think people are over thinking this one. I mean they handled catching the bad guy off screen since it wasn't the focus of the episode, and we all know who the Arrow is so I don't see what point wasting screen time telling us something we already know would accomplish; Better to show how amazed Diggle was than to have a Oliver is Arrow reveal scene. I may be totally off, but that's what I thought when I saw the episode, but I was browsing while watching so maybe I am totally off. Athanos fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Dec 13, 2014 |
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Dec 13, 2014 07:07
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enraged_camel posted:I don't think Wells knew the answer when he asked Felicity, because he would have had no reason to look it up before then. He might have time travel ability, but he isn't exactly omnipotent. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of his knowledge of the future comes from his super-computer Gideon, which seems to provide the knowledge by doing a database search of some sort. So after Felicity refused to provide the answer, he probably went and asked Gideon to figure it out. Yeah, ARGUS knows Arrow's identity so the super future computer probably got it from them
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Dec 13, 2014 07:08
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:I didnt realize it was parodying anything im a cultureless hack. so my bad joke is also ill founded I'm trying to imagine not being able to recognize a North by Northwest reference, but...I'm ...I'm just not able to.
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Dec 13, 2014 07:10
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:Yeah, ARGUS knows Arrow's identity so the super future computer probably got it from them Or they just told him off screen as I suggested prior to them all standing in the room together...
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Dec 13, 2014 07:13
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Athanos posted:Or they just told him off screen as I suggested prior to them all standing in the room together... nooooooo it has to be complicated and involve time travel
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Dec 13, 2014 07:14
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Habibi posted:Was going to say this, except less to do with tachyons. It's possible the water levitating when Barry was hit was a function not of the particle accelerator itself, but of whatever specific force/energy/whatever that came down and gave him his powers. Or, it's just a time travel thing...that is, breaching causality requires creating some insane event, that maybe isn't that dissimilar from the particle accelerator explosion. Wells did once describe the accident st STAR Labs as having opened a portal that allowed dark energy and other weird poo poo to cross into Central City. It seems just as wacky to say that crossing the threshold of time works similarly...some rift that breaks local spacetime and fucks with gravity, or something.
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Dec 13, 2014 07:18
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:nooooooo it has to be complicated and involve time travel Exactly what I demand in my porn!
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Dec 13, 2014 07:20
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Athanos posted:Or they just told him off screen as I suggested prior to them all standing in the room together... Who told him off screen? Only Barry, Felicity, and Diggle knew. Nobody would have told Wells. He figured it out on his own, either by being smart or whatever.
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Dec 13, 2014 07:22
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Codependent Poster posted:Who told him off screen? Only Barry, Felicity, and Diggle knew. Nobody would have told Wells. He figured it out on his own, either by being smart or whatever. Before they all met. Was there a scene where Wells said, hey it's Oliver? No, they were all just in a room together as far as I remember. He said unless he knew who the Arrow was he didn't want to deal with him. Felicity probably passed that on and Oliver agreed. He wanted to get poo poo done. Or I suppose you could believe that Wells decided to sneak into his special room to find out something that had to happen anyway if they were going to team up. If you want to believe he used his computer fine, but if that's the case then he would have known before he talked to Felicity, because why wouldn't he have just checked when he knew that he was in town and he knew there was a connection to Barry? You're making this fat to complicated.
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Dec 13, 2014 07:36
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Athanos posted:Before they all met. Was there a scene where Wells said, hey it's Oliver? No, they were all just in a room together as far as I remember. He said unless he knew who the Arrow was he didn't want to deal with him. Felicity probably passed that on and Oliver agreed. He wanted to get poo poo done. Or I suppose you could believe that Wells decided to sneak into his special room to find out something that had to happen anyway if they were going to team up. The way Wells said "Oliver Queen" and Felicity's reaction indicate that they had not discussed his identity.
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Dec 13, 2014 07:41
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:Yeah, ARGUS knows Arrow's identity so the super future computer probably got it from them Yeah. Besides, Ollie doesn't have super powers, so Wells has no reason to have taken an interest in him before he actually showed up at his lab.
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Dec 13, 2014 07:44
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Alternatively, Wells knows that the Arrow is one of the two people who came into town with Felicity. With that as a starting point, it's not that hard to determine. Even without the future news aggregator computer.
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Dec 13, 2014 08:05
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I dont know posted:Alternatively, Wells knows that the Arrow is one of the two people who came into town with Felicity. With that as a starting point, it's not that hard to determine. Even without the future news aggregator computer. Totally fine with this as well.
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Dec 13, 2014 08:07
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Athanos posted:Totally fine with this as well. I like to think that Well flipped a coin to decided if he was going to say, "call the Arrow, call Oliver Queen." or "call the Arrow, call John Diggle."
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Dec 13, 2014 08:11
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Athanos posted:Before they all met. Was there a scene where Wells said, hey it's Oliver? No, they were all just in a room together as far as I remember. He said unless he knew who the Arrow was he didn't want to deal with him. Felicity probably passed that on and Oliver agreed. He wanted to get poo poo done. Or I suppose you could believe that Wells decided to sneak into his special room to find out something that had to happen anyway if they were going to team up. You're completely misremembering and misreading everything. Wells asks Felicity who the Arrow is. Felicity refuses to say and Wells says he'll figure it out on his own. Then after Joe goes to Wells, Caitlin, Cisco and Felicity to say that Barry has been whammied, Wells says that none of them can stop Barry, but fortunately Felicity knows someone who can. Then she tells him to call back Oliver Queen because they need the Arrow's help. Then she looks shocked, and Wells looks smug. Wells figured out who the Arrow was, either by being smart or by using his computer.
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Dec 13, 2014 08:20
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Maybe Wells hypnotized Felicity!
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Dec 13, 2014 08:22
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Codependent Poster posted:You're completely misremembering and misreading everything. I know this is what's implied but it's hilarious because they mention GA as Oliver like literally 10 seconds after Wells walks away. There's obviously some surveillance in Star Labs they should probably remember that.
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Dec 13, 2014 09:23
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Codependent Poster posted:You're completely misremembering and misreading everything. I did say I was possibly mistaken since I wasn't paying a great deal of attention while watching the episode, so I guess I'm wrong. Personally I'm going to go with smart. As someone said earlier in the thread in comics common sense is basically a super power.
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Athanos posted:It's also possible that he was told off screen, before the meeting, which is why he knew it was Oliver when they met. I think people are over thinking this one. I mean they handled catching the bad guy off screen since it wasn't the focus of the episode, and we all know who the Arrow is so I don't see what point wasting screen time telling us something we already know would accomplish; Better to show how amazed Diggle was than to have a Oliver is Arrow reveal scene. Its also possibly Felicity walked literally ten feet away before going "Hey Barry how did your training with Oliver go"
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Dec 13, 2014 14:14
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:Barry isn't either. This wouldn't be as much of an issue ("I have no idea who this is. ) were it not for the facial recognition stuff.
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I dont know posted:I like to think that Well flipped a coin to decided if he was going to say, "call the Arrow, call Oliver Queen." or "call the Arrow, call John Diggle." There's got to be enough surveillance photos of the Arrow to at least know it's a white dude under there. He doesn't exactly hide his jawline.
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So I finally caught the new episode andMooseontheloose posted:What yeah pretty much that.  
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