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redshirt posted:Don't think so. Once you've built the infrastructure for extraction and delivery, you don't just give it up. It's a double-edged sword, you idiot.
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TEAYCHES posted:for a liberal you really dont understand how markets work There are political reasons as well as economic at play.
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# ? Dec 18, 2014 04:03 |
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Welp! Oil's hit 35$ a barrel. Shut it all down boys, we're finished.
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AddMEonFacebook posted:OPEC has high tech oil producers by the balls, they could literally drop the price to 10 cents/gallon and make a profit still. ehhh its a war of attrition opec states spend a fuckload of money and its all dependent on oil revenue
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redshirt posted:Welp! Oil's hit 35$ a barrel. Shut it all down boys, we're finished. For the love of God, please shut down the prison-military idustrial complex.
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# ? Dec 18, 2014 04:05 |
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When will you cowardly liberals learn that the only way to teach them anything is with a nuke up their rear end?
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TEAYCHES posted:ehhh its a war of attrition Like the US has a balanced budget?
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dad gay. so what posted:im making GBS threads in the toilet HAHAAHAHA classic dad gay. so what
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Volume posted:When will you cowardly liberals learn that the only way to teach them anything is with a nuke up their rear end? We're heading to a new cold war with Russia. How would you like a nuke up your rear end?
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AddMEonFacebook posted:Like the US has a balanced budget? its not a good comparison. oil is measured in the united states dollar - we are playing with god mode. in any case it's a matter of crying uncle before capitalists in their respective markets wont play or go bankrupt
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TEAYCHES posted:its not a good comparison. oil is measured in the united states dollar - we are playing with god mode. in any case it's a matter of crying uncle before capitalists in their respective markets wont play or go bankrupt lol bullshit
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AddMEonFacebook posted:For the love of God, please shut down the prison-military idustrial complex. Oil is part of the MIC and thus America will not give up its new found oil production capacity regardless of how cheap oil gets. Does that mean investment in new oil sources might be slowed? Sure, but that's well down the road. Fracking/tar sands/raping the Earth to squeeze every loving drop of oil is the future, and with the infrastructure in place, America/Canada/Mexico/Everyone will go at it for as long as it lasts. Then, at the end, we have another Road Warrior reboot, but for real.
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# ? Dec 18, 2014 04:09 |
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I just want to see russia try and invade eastern europe only to get humiliated by Poland. pretty sure everyone in russia would kill themselves if they lost a war to poland.
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AddMEonFacebook posted:lol bullshit look at whats happening to russia right now and tell me that energy markets and a lower crude oil price dont have market consequences
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redshirt posted:Oil is part of the MIC and thus America will not give up its new found oil production capacity regardless of how cheap oil gets. I never understood the Road Warrior. If gas is so precious, why do they all drive all the time? Shouldn't they be on horseback or bicycles or something?
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Wicker Man posted:It's kinda neat in a way how that whole situation in the Ukraine allowed us an opportunity to wither and destroy the big scary "Red Menace" in a way that didn't involve war. this right here, all we gotta do is continue shipping over weapons to the Ukrainians and keep Russia bogged down to give their economy the knockout punch
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chaosbreather posted:the ruble is halved? ay, there's the rub. You see that joke doesn't work, instead you made a three-fifths compromise
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cold war, cold war never changesTEAYCHES posted:look at whats happening to russia right now and tell me that energy markets and a lower crude oil price dont have market consequences market != political, i hope this helps your worldview Pivotal Lever fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Dec 18, 2014 |
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i mean russia keeps producing gas and oil?? why is this crashing their economy??? im a loving retard!!
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boom boom boom posted:I never understood the Road Warrior. If gas is so precious, why do they all drive all the time? Shouldn't they be on horseback or bicycles or something? dude. they live in the suburbs they have no choice okay?
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TEAYCHES posted:i mean russia keeps producing gas and oil?? why is this crashing their economy??? im a loving retard!! it's because russia's budget is based on oil being $100 a gallon, do you hate facts and analysis or do you just like making GBS threads on the united states
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boom boom boom posted:I never understood the Road Warrior. If gas is so precious, why do they all drive all the time? Shouldn't they be on horseback or bicycles or something? Display of power/influence.
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boom boom boom posted:I never understood the Road Warrior. If gas is so precious, why do they all drive all the time? Shouldn't they be on horseback or bicycles or something? why are humans dumb dumb and cant figure out any form of powered locomotion that doesnt use fossil fuels or muscle
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Pivotal Lever posted:it's because russia's budget is based on oil being $100 a gallon, do you hate facts and analysis so are a ton of investments in tar sands and fracking. do you think that the american economy is a giant balanced spreadsheet? why do you think the oil boom of the 80s ended violently. the individual energy market loving collapsed, whatever the strength of the american economy otherwise in other sectors. yeah, nations with diversified economies arent gonna crash because of low oil prices, but energy sectors will this has happened before, not that long ago oil got cheap again in the 80s and the floor fell out. do you think that the american economy is some single equation of national profit and loss?
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I'm 100% serious that if anyone thinks the russian army is remotely capable of beating a united eastern europe they are retarded.
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Alexzandvar posted:I'm 100% serious that if anyone thinks the russian army is remotely capable of beating a united eastern europe they are retarded. What if they just go crazy and start nuking cities?
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AddMEonFacebook posted:What if they just go crazy and start nuking cities? that would only improve most of them
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AddMEonFacebook posted:What if they just go crazy and start nuking cities? then Russia gets owned by the west because they wasted all their nukes on loving eastern europe, then gets owned again when all the radiation blows back into Russia.
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Alexzandvar posted:then Russia gets owned by the west because they wasted all their nukes on loving eastern europe, then gets owned again when all the radiation blows back into Russia. I'm pretty sure they have enough to destroy the entire world.
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# ? Dec 18, 2014 04:21 |
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like how much simpler does market economics get than corporations which see a drastic fall in profit will also see a drastic fall in what they can invest for output - a fall in supply, or even going bankrupt if they have too much debt to revenue. its not like fracking is a nationalized business. if energy prices fall further, yes, it will become less profitable to frack and extract oil from tar sands, and so less of it will happen. this happened in the 80s. god drat i hate liberals
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Alexzandvar posted:I'm 100% serious that if anyone thinks the russian army is remotely capable of beating a united eastern europe they are retarded. What's the state of Poland's military? How about the other former Bloc countries?
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TEAYCHES posted:like how much simpler does market economics get than corporations which see a drastic fall in profit will also see a drastic fall in what they can invest for output - a fall in supply. its not like fracking is a nationalized business. if energy prices fall further, yes, it will become less profitable to frack and extract oil from tar sands, and so less of it will happen. this happened in the 80s. god drat i hate liberals Tax breaks, friend.
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anyone got any good tips for russian companies to invest in while they are dirt cheap? like how about a shipping conglomerate that is too international to ever go down?
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TEAYCHES posted:like how much simpler does market economics get than corporations which see a drastic fall in profit will also see a drastic fall in what they can invest for output - a fall in supply, or even going bankrupt if they have too much debt to revenue. its not like fracking is a nationalized business. if energy prices fall further, yes, it will become less profitable to frack and extract oil from tar sands, and so less of it will happen. this happened in the 80s. god drat i hate liberals They will also lie about costs and profits.
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redshirt posted:Tax breaks, friend. tax breaks incentivized the creation of the new american energy market when prices were insanely high, they dont subsidize it when oil drops to $70 a gallon and stays there
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numberoneposter posted:anyone got any good tips for russian companies to invest in while they are dirt cheap? like how about a shipping conglomerate that is too international to ever go down? Maybe you can invest in their nuclear weapons program.
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# ? Dec 18, 2014 04:24 |
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remember when people were saying we'd hit hubbert's peak in like 2008 and oil would be $400 a barrel by now and industrial society would be collapsing I wish that had happened
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AddMEonFacebook posted:They will also lie about costs and profits. do you think that global energy markets work like bernie madoff or something
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Torka posted:remember when people were saying we'd hit hubbert's peak in like 2008 and oil would be $400 a barrel by now and industrial society would be collapsing People don't need oil as much as they thought they did. Turns out we need clean air, clean water, and healthy food more. New technologies are changing other countries while the US is being left behind.
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TEAYCHES posted:tax breaks incentivized the creation of the new american energy market when prices were insanely high, they dont subsidize it when oil drops to $70 a gallon and stays there So, you think the North American countries will scale back their new found and productive oil production in the face of cheap prices? And resume imports from the Middle East?
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