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wwii proved that experience and superior armies dont mean poo poo when your enemy outproduces you. given enough time the rest of the world would make a bunch of ships and planes and wreck the us
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Yeah just imagine that powerful chinese army all hosed up and poisoned with pollution and a mass of russian krokodil foot soldiers.
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Dec 19, 2014 14:26
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Dec 19, 2014 14:35
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They'd loving ruin everyone ay first but there's no way they can hold that much territory. Without trade they'd quickly run out of resources to resupply with. They might all be republicans to begin with but that doesn't mean a significant proportion of troops wouldn't become dissatisfied and desert. What are the strategic goals of the war? Just to fight all the armies for a few months then say ok we beat you war is done? Then maybe and that's a pretty big maybe. If it's to conquer territory and hold it then no a loving chance. They'd do worse than they are now with economic warfare. Holy poo poo i just wrote all that dumb poo poo gently caress i suck so hard.
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Dec 19, 2014 15:05
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If we went all 19th century we could probably win because we could bomb anywhere on the planet and have conventional munitions that could level population/industrial centers/dams/power plants without the need for nukes. Bottleneck would probably our ability to build enough bombs. No other country maintains the retarded logistical network required to project force across the entire planet and our air force/navy would annihilate conventional attacks. The resulting economic catastrophe from trade being cut and the internet being disabled would probably cause more actual death than the war.
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Dec 19, 2014 15:37
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Nuclearmonkee posted:If we went all 19th century we could probably win because we could bomb anywhere on the planet and have conventional munitions that could level population/industrial centers/dams/power plants without the need for nukes. Bottleneck would probably our ability to build enough bombs. Places like detroit could start manufacturing again. This US v World is gonna be great.
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Dec 19, 2014 15:43
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The US could totally hold out for 8 years of president Cruz. Even if China hit all of our aircraft carriers with those special ballistic missiles, we still have enough submarines and other lesser vessels to make an amphibious assault beyond suicidal. Swarm boat tactics don't really work when you have to sail hundreds of miles before swarming. We also have the largest and best equipped air force in the world, even with the flying catastrophe that is the f-35. We'd be bombing airfields with impunity for at least the first year of the war, probably longer because so much of Europe uses our systems. Also we have military bases all around the world that could buy time by just loving up the country they are in. Germany and Japan are basically out of the war for a year, we have military presence there that would just be a nightmare to deal with. Britain is probably hosed too unless they join up. Even in like year 4 when the world finally starts producing enough to negate our head start, they still have an entire army to face once they get to the US. It's like if Germany had been an island in WW2 and by 1944 most of its army had been just training to defend the homeland instead of being ground into dust by the Russians. Not to mention the patriotic tea party death squads that would harass any occupying force. We suck at fighting asymmetrical forces, but you can't really invade another country asymmetrically. You can blow poo poo up every now and then, start a campaign of terror, but that has never worked offensively. And I totally sperged out on this. I want a command and conquer game where you play the US in this scenario and hulk Hogan does all of the american voice acting.
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Dec 19, 2014 15:49
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Nuclearmonkee posted:No other country maintains the retarded logistical network required to project force across the entire planet and our air force/navy would annihilate conventional attacks. True, but only for conventional attacks and forces. These days, its the unconventional that fucks the US up. The Taliban/Al Queada did it in Afghanistan/Iraq to the US with 30 year old Russian tech. Hell, 19 Syrian's hosed up the US forever with 5 dollar box cutters and a few airplane tickets. If it was US vs World, the US would have to wipe out countries to hold onto the few they could with ground forces and suppress random attacks inside them. Otherwise you will have guerilla tactics whittling down US soldiers and very little to reinforce them with.
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Dec 19, 2014 15:55
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If we went into a genocidal rage the entire world would be in deep poo poo in the short term, but we'd still eventually lose if it dragged out for years. I think our biggest problem would be trade-related. Literally everything we loving own is made in China, Mexico, India, Japan, ANYWHERE but America and 3/4ths of our jobs are overseas. All I can imagine is our cars crapping out on the road, our technology breaking down, and the entire country rapidly deteriorating into 3rd world shitholery because America hasn't had to make its own poo poo in ages. At least we could theoretically keep our people fed with endless supplies of corn 
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Dec 19, 2014 15:58
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happyhippy posted:True, but only for conventional attacks and forces. 
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Cuckoo posted:If we went into a genocidal rage the entire world would be in deep poo poo in the short term, but we'd still eventually lose if it dragged out for years. I think our biggest problem would be trade-related. Literally everything we loving own is made in China, Mexico, India, Japan, ANYWHERE but America and 3/4ths of our jobs are overseas. All I can imagine is our cars crapping out on the road, our technology breaking down, and the entire country rapidly deteriorating into 3rd world shitholery because America hasn't had to make its own poo poo in ages. you do realize we wiuld just go back to making our own stuff. the infastructure is all still there. also.... our vast wealth, education, and job oppurtunties have created a huge skilled labor pool. most of the 'rednecks' and 'hillbillys' that people itt would laugh at have a compariable level of skills and knowledge to that of surgeon. oh... my gun broke.... welp lets head over to the milling machine and make a new one bubba
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Dec 19, 2014 16:10
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Agag posted:America would violently rip itself apart from within. we're already working on that
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Concerned Citizen posted:also, the only requirement for victory is that the united states must defend its shores and maintain the federal government long enough to complete ted cruz's second term as president. We could definitely do this particular thing, I think and if the whole "ooohh random terror attacks inside the US, we'll crush your morale" thing happens watch as our entire easily tricked and frightened populace joins the armed forces and every factory and advanced manufacturing place available starts cranking out hardware we could probably defeat an incoming force by loading catapults with balls of guns welded together
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Dec 19, 2014 16:24
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Think taking Afghanistan is hard try Appalachia. And thanks to american gun and war culture the civilian population is already semitrained paramilitary irregulars.
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Dec 19, 2014 20:36
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Real Americans who aren't Democrats would step in and lead a guerrilla resistance movement, out of respect for the Constitution. Unless we're banning bio-weapons the world is going to be an uninhabitable wasteland at the end of it, but America isn't going to be able to hold off Canada and Mexico. Plus Russia would loving love an excuse to be the hero and to fight America. So no, despite the fact we have most of a continent to ourselves we couldn't beat the world.
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Dec 19, 2014 20:37
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Peztopiary posted:but America isn't going to be able to hold off Canada and Mexico lmao
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Dec 19, 2014 20:40
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There's only one thing bigger that could defeat the US if it wanted to. Your mom..
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Rando posted:Think taking Afghanistan is hard try Appalachia. I would rather get drafted and land in a warzone tomorrow than run out of gas in Appalachia.
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Dec 19, 2014 21:38
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Rest of the world just sits around and waits for America to die of the flu because Ted Cruz destroys all government subsidized health care
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happyhippy posted:There's only one thing bigger that could defeat the US if it wanted to. that's no moon...
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Dec 19, 2014 21:39
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without nukes, no. not against the whole world dummy it would be literally impossible
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We obviously wouldn't attack you militarily. We would mass our collective world mind to find out how to clone people, then steal some of Jenny Mccarthy's DNA. Clone her 300 times, put one of her in every big city in America and watch the next generation of Americans die of simple viruses and poo poo.
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Dec 19, 2014 22:18
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This is silly, we already won. You have to speak English to fly a plane anywhere, our currency is the most stable currency and many other foreign currencies are weighed against and propped up by the dollar (cough cough rubles), the rest of the world's educated and elite all flock here, etc etc.
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Dec 19, 2014 22:50
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EightBit posted:This is silly, we already won. You have to speak English to fly a plane anywhere, our currency is the most stable currency and many other foreign currencies are weighed against and propped up by the dollar (cough cough rubles), the rest of the world's educated and elite all flock here, etc etc. this
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a proper hypothetical might be "could America survive a civil war in which Russia rebelled against McDonald & Co.?"
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proof of concept posted:THESE COLORS DON'T RUN best post in the thread!
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Appalachia would make Afghanistan look hospitable by comparison. Everyone there is dirt poor so people have to know how to hunt to feed their families, high-powered rifles and shotguns are loving everywhere and 99% of the male population is composed of miners with at least middling knowledge of explosives. Factor in the geography and limitless tree cover and uh, well. Appalachia is the single strongest deterrent against invasion the US has.
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Dec 19, 2014 23:17
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is there a drone arms race yet. i would have figured china would have been mass producing a billion of them or is world war kind of silly now.
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Dec 19, 2014 23:18
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Here's how America wins this war: 1. Preemptive destruction of every major industrial area in the world. Main targets would be Japan, China, Russia, Germany and England. 2. Simultaneous rebuild of America's industrial capacity so when all world trade halts, America can self supply. 3. Occupation of selected industrial areas in Europe and Asia. 4. Occupation of Canada 5. Seizure of largest oil fields worldwide. 6. Seizure of key resource areas in Africa 7. Profit
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A real war would cause the destruction of the world economy. So no one is really interested in it
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redshirt posted:Here's how America wins this war: You forgot cutting off food exports.
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Dec 19, 2014 23:25
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Like McDonalds
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Baba Ganoush posted:You forgot cutting off food exports. Naw dog, I mean sure, there would be no more exports, but that's only gonna gently caress up Africa and other poor places. Who cares? In the glorious war for the world, they don't matter.
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I forsee a Doobie Dog on everystreet corner
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Pharmaskittle posted:I would rather get drafted and land in a warzone tomorrow than run out of gas in Appalachia. kill all they send and they will stop coming -mel gibson
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Hobo Siege posted:Appalachia would make Afghanistan look hospitable by comparison. Everyone there is dirt poor so people have to know how to hunt to feed their families, high-powered rifles and shotguns are loving everywhere and 99% of the male population is composed of miners with at least middling knowledge of explosives. Factor in the geography and limitless tree cover and uh, well. While our hill folk around the nation would be a bitch, they aren't exactly occupying strategic positions that invading armies would be looking to overthrow. But fer realz American citizens are pretty well armed and when provoked go completely bananas. Remember right after 9/11? Well this would be 9/11 times 1000.
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To the world's credit, infiltration efforts would probably work incredibly well, since everyone's spent the better part of a century trying to imitate us. Like, there isn't a sizeable population of people out there who've been consuming Guatemalan music and movies for the better part of a century.
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Considering what Ted Cruz would do the federal government (STARVE THE BEAST) all Europe would need to do is send like a plane full of people with ebola into the US and we would be hosed.
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Pharmaskittle posted:To the world's credit, infiltration efforts would probably work incredibly well, since everyone's spent the better part of a century trying to imitate us. Like, there isn't a sizeable population of people out there who've been consuming Guatemalan music and movies for the better part of a century. Much as the US could send the Wu Tang Clan to infiltrate China.
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Agag posted:Much as the US could send the Wu Tang Clan to infiltrate China. they know the secret of all 36 of our chambers, how can it be??!?
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