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Iron Crowned posted:I've never understood the appeal of Woody Allen. To me he's like M. Knight Shyamalan, he made something good once or twice (I personally haven't figured out what yet), and just keeps getting money to continue making lovely movies. Annie Hall, Manhattan, Hannah and Her Sisters, and Midnight in Paris. Those are just the biggies.
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bobkatt013 posted:Annie Hall, Manhattan, Hannah and Her Sisters, and Midnight in Paris. Those are just the biggies. I can't say I was impressed by Midnight in Paris 
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bobkatt013 posted:Annie Hall, Manhattan, Hannah and Her Sisters, and Midnight in Paris. Those are just the biggies. There's also the mentioned Crimes and Misdemeanors, Match Point, Sleeper, Love and Death, Bananas, Zelig, Purple Rose of Cairo, Sweet And Lowdown and some others I really like that I wouldn't really recommend to people that already don't like him (like Stardust Memories and Deconstructing Harry).
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Dec 19, 2014 17:37
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Woody Allen is a Fantastic Lover and Morally Unassailable (2016) I fail to see how this is significantly different from the majority of Woody Allen projects since the late 80's.
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Dec 19, 2014 18:38
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Woody Allen's Lolita starring the reanimated corpse of Klaus Kinski, produced by Roman Polanski.
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Dec 19, 2014 18:42
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Woody Allens movies would improve immensely if they didn't have Woody Allen in them.
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Dec 19, 2014 19:06
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Orson Welles posted:It’s people like me who have to carry on and pretend to be modest Oh Orson.
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Woody Allen is a gross person who made a lot of really good films in the past, but his recent films haven't been very good, so I probably won't go see his new movie regardless of what it's about. It's still impressive that he's made a movie a year for the last three decades though, and with that kind of output they can't all be zingers. I really want to know where he even finds the time to rape kids with all that production work.
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Dec 19, 2014 19:42
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TheJoker138 posted:Woody Allen is a gross person who made a lot of really good films in the past, but his recent films haven't been very good, so I probably won't go see his new movie regardless of what it's about. It's still impressive that he's made a movie a year for the last three decades though, and with that kind of output they can't all be zingers. I really want to know where he even finds the time to rape kids with all that production work. They are at his home.
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Dec 19, 2014 19:43
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You make the time for things that matter to you.
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rejutka posted:Rebooting Three Men and a Baby. Ahaha goddamn, this put the worst image in my head. Like a movie poster of three faces leering over the edge of a cradle.
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Dec 19, 2014 19:59
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Armyman25 posted:Orson Welles had Allen's number. It was laser guided. It's like those Miles Davis burns where he was just poo poo talking everybody.
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Dec 19, 2014 20:14
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Jack Gladney posted:You make the time for things that matter to you. Haha, Jesus.
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resurgam40 posted:
It's possible that this isn't real, isn't it? Can't people post any old poo poo on IMDb until it's verified one way or the other?
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Dec 19, 2014 20:33
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... No. No one's going to allow him to do that, not as it is. I refuse to believe that this will go unchanged.
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raditts posted:It's possible that this isn't real, isn't it? Can't people post any old poo poo on IMDb until it's verified one way or the other? http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/plot-revealed-woody-allens-latest-film-starring-joaquin-phoenix-emma-stone/
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Dec 19, 2014 20:41
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Even the best Woody Allen movies have the problem that they're still Woody Allen movies. He has a shtick he doesn't really deviate from no matter what the movie is ostensibly about. I'm not surprised that he can keep the production schedule he does when he's essentially making the same movie over and over again with a cast of regulars. Anyway, it's hard to be in the middle on Woody Allen. If his shtick resonates with you, then you're going to like a lot of his movies no matter what. If, like me, it gives you hives, then there's really no reason to ever watch a Woody Allen movie again once you've seen Annie Hall.
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Dec 19, 2014 21:32
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That OW quote is so spot on. Allen just comes across as such a little weasel while constantly spouting pseudo-intellectual self-masturbatory nonsense all over the place in all of his movies.
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Dec 19, 2014 21:43
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I wonder if I will ever get to an age where I have the slightest interest in seeing a Woody Allen movie. Enough people enjoy his films that I can't just outright say they're no good, but I can't see the appeal. Every single one seems plotless or about nothing. Like if Seinfeld was supposed to be a drama.
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Has Allen ever played a character who wasn't a weasel who spouted pseudo-intellectual garbage? I can understand subjectively not liking any one filmmaker's particular style and doubly so their character as a person, but I've yet to see a single film of his where he also acted in it that seemed to depict him trying and failing to make the character he played seem even vaguely noble. That OW quote may be dead-on in more ways than one. Chaplin's films, especially his earlier ones, portray the Tramp as such a scoundrel, someone who inflicts misery on other people that they often don't deserve. But we find him funny anyway because whether or not the Tramp is a good person has nothing to do with whether he points up social and personal follies, whether his films observe contemporary society well and make farce of it. I just don't get why people find Allen's egghead variation of this so grating. That is, other than the obvious accusation of his molestation of Dylan Farrow and his biographical predilection for younger women, the former of which only seems to stick in people's craw because (unlike Polanski) the case had no official conclusion and Allen consistently denying wrong-doing; and the latter frankly lacking any interest to me given its banality among nebbish, old men.
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Dec 19, 2014 22:36
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Why can't all assholes be like Orson Welles?
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mr.capps posted:Why can't all assholes be like Orson Welles? Because, despite what many assholes would like you to think, there's no direct correlation between being qn rear end in a top hat and being a genius worth listening to.
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Dec 19, 2014 22:43
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Annie Hall was complete crap and I still can't believe it beat Star Wars for Best Picture.
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Dec 19, 2014 22:56
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I totally believe it. Annie Hall is really good and Star Wars is merely okay. But, then, the Oscars don't actually matter.
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Dec 19, 2014 23:05
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Byzantine posted:Annie Hall was complete crap and I still can't believe it beat Star Wars for Best Picture. Well I can't believe your sperm beat all the others to the egg. Sometimes miracle happen.
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Dec 19, 2014 23:09
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K. Waste posted:Has Allen ever played a character who wasn't a weasel who spouted pseudo-intellectual garbage? I don't think so, but at some point it went from being a joke to being serious.
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Dec 19, 2014 23:10
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Say what you want about George Lucas but at least he isn't a child rapist.
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I guess for me the difference between Woody Allen and Chaplin is that Chaplin's films are ultimately about something greater then himself. The Tramp may or may not be unlikeable but Chaplin is poking fun at all sorts of conventions around class, modern society and such. With Woody Allen, I never get the sense that he's doing anything other than working his own issues out on film. Which is fine in and of itself, but he's made 50 some-odd movies like this and it never loving changes. At what point have you stopped shining a spotlight on your own neuroses and started to just whack off?
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FreudianSlippers posted:Say what you want about George Lucas but at least he isn't a child rapist. Star Wars fans don't seem to think that.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Say what you want about George Lucas but at least he isn't a child rapist. Just childhoods. (being the obvious joke)
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:I wonder if I will ever get to an age where I have the slightest interest in seeing a Woody Allen movie. Enough people enjoy his films that I can't just outright say they're no good, but I can't see the appeal. Every single one seems plotless or about nothing. Like if Seinfeld was supposed to be a drama. Most of Woody Allen's good movies are comedies.
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Random Stranger posted:I don't think so, but at some point it went from being a joke to being serious. When? I'm not incredulously disputing your perception, but I think it might actually be at the moment where he started having a successful relationship. Allen made better movies when his ex's were accusing him of slander and molesting their children. FreudianSlippers posted:Say what you want about George Lucas but at least he isn't a child rapist. As far as you know. He could also be guilty of a myriad other awful things. As far as you know. Baby Babbeh posted:I guess for me the difference between Woody Allen and Chaplin is that Chaplin's films are ultimately about something greater then himself. The Tramp may or may not be unlikeable but Chaplin is poking fun at all sorts of conventions around class, modern society and such. Really? Are we watching the same Annie Hall? Heck, are we watching the same Gold Rush?
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TheJoker138 posted:Most of Woody Allen's good movies are comedies. Then why are they unfunny?
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Humor is uh, ahem, uhh, subjective
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K. Waste posted:I totally believe it. Annie Hall is really good How the gently caress was it even decent, much less "really good"?
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Byzantine posted:How the gently caress was it even decent, much less "really good"? You first. How wasn't it really good? Please explain without an opinion that can be taken as subjective because you don't really seem to care about that.
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Byzantine posted:How the gently caress was it even decent, much less "really good"? By being funny. Largely by making Allen's character look aggressively worse and worse as the movie progressed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJ8tKRlW3E
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K. Waste posted:As far as you know. He could also be guilty of a myriad other awful things. As far as you know. You could say that about literally anyone. Including you or me
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Improbable Lobster posted:You could say that about literally anyone. Including you or me Yeah, that's kind of the beauty of it. People feel very strongly about their certainty that Woody Allen totally molested a kid because of a single trial that went absolutely nowhere and their general feelings that he's kind of a creep anyway. The obsession with framing Allen as the unambiguous assailant of innocence is so pervasive that even people who like his movies feel they need to clarify their enjoyment of his works with the tacit acceptance of a cultural myth. By myth, I do not mean there is no possibility that Allen is a child molester. I mean myth in the sense that this is something that has been decided collectively without the vast majority of people having anything even close to a clear window into what happened. My position is that I have no loving clue if Woody Allen molested a child. My position is also that, ironically, for a guy who was accused of molesting his adopted daughter, since that relationship Allen has been getting nothing but net in his personal life anyway. I mean, he's happily married to and has a daughter with a woman despite the fact that this very woman's adoptive mother accused him of molesting his own adopted daughter. It's at precisely the point in his life where Allen is doing his best that his movies are starting to really suck. This is really interesting.
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There's also you know, the whole thing of the victim having grown up and being very vocal about what happened.
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