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Darth123123 posted:Wouldn't removing subsidies cause more bankruptcy? And all airlines going out of business at the same time is somewhat unlikely... Bankruptcy is the goal here. I'm arguing that airlines going out of business is a good thing. Even if they don't all go out of business at the same time, the remaining solvent companies couldn't possibly afford to buy up all the defunct ones without the money from subsidies. The current model is stagnant and bad.
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Applewhite posted:"Get on your flight, sir!" bam! lol
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Applewhite posted:"Get on your flight, sir!" If you make me get on the flight I'll send a Tweet calling your flight attendants 'ugly-rear end hoes!'
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Dec 30, 2014 19:49
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Smoking_Dragon posted:The statistical chance of crashing is the same every time you fly. For example, you rarely see two or three commercial jets crash in the same week or month, let alone the same day. Thus, I like to fly soon after a plane crashes, because it means that my plane will be less likely to crash. I flew home on Sunday and was happy to see that Malaysian Air jet go down the day before, because it meant my plane would be less likely to crash.
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babies havin rabies posted:It's not like they can ever enforce this. I mean the police can't come arrest somebody for booking a flight and then not taking it. If it gets popular, I imagine they'll add a security deposit to your ticket.
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Dec 30, 2014 19:51
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Please present your ticket to prove this is your final destination so you can leave the terminal, thank you
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Kleen_TheRowdyDog posted:I don't know about that. This is actually true when the NTSB or whatever concludes an investigation into why a crash happened and their suggestions are implemented by the airlines.
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Dec 30, 2014 19:51
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Since I know nothing about flying, how do you get back? Do you just book a one-way flight and get off at the layover, and then a separate one-way flight back with a layover in the city nearest you? Or do you do a round-trip and then get on at the layover city? I imagine the latter wouldn't go over too well. "Uhhh yeah it says the flight was from New York but I'm getting on in Philly. I... took a bus here?"
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Kleen_TheRowdyDog posted:I don't know about that. Statistics are a lie we tell ourselves to make sense of a chaotic universe. In reality, all those planes that crashed had a 100% likelihood of crashing, but the conditions contributing to the crash were invisible to us until it was too late. No so-called "random" event effects the likelihood of any other random event, even if it seems like it does.
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sha la la la la sha la lala la la
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one time I bought a bus ticket to binghamton but didn't get off and went all the way to NYC. this actually sucked for me because I wanted to get to binghamton, but you could use that trick to save money on bus tickets I guess
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King Vidiot posted:Since I know nothing about flying, how do you get back? Do you just book a one-way flight and get off at the layover, and then a separate one-way flight back with a layover in the city nearest you? Or do you do a round-trip and then get on at the layover city? You're not getting on at the layover point, you're getting off. The layover point is where you really want to be. You get back by booking another one-way flight, whether the flight back saves you money or is straight-up one way is irrelevant. I'm not sure if the method you're proposing would actually work or if it would get you screened by security.
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babies havin rabies posted:You're not getting on at the layover point, you're getting off. The layover point is where you really want to be. You get back by booking another one-way flight, whether the flight back saves you money or is straight-up one way is irrelevant. Yeah I know the first part, I just didn't know if this method was supposed to save you money both ways or just one way. Apparently just one way would be the safest. From the way that article read I'd be worried that they wouldn't let you book a one-way flight back if they find out you didn't embark at the layover point.
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babies havin rabies posted:It's not like they can ever enforce this. I mean the police can't come arrest somebody for booking a flight and then not taking it. The airlines don't have an issue with people using this One Weird Trick. People have been doing it for decades. They have an issue with a site who's singular purpose is making it easier to book flights this way.
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Dec 30, 2014 20:02
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King Vidiot posted:Yeah I know the first part, I just didn't know if this method was supposed to save you money both ways or just one way. Apparently just one way would be the safest. From the way that article read I'd be worried that they wouldn't let you book a one-way flight back if they find out you didn't embark at the layover point. An easy way to get around this would just to buy two different one-way tickets from two different airlines. You skip the difficulties of a round trip ticket possibly being voided and the possibility that the airline notices you booked two different tickets with a different starting/end point for each.
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420DD Butts posted:An easy way to get around this would just to buy two different one-way tickets from two different airlines. You skip the difficulties of a round trip ticket possibly being voided and the possibility that the airline notices you booked two different tickets with a different starting/end point for each. All you need to do now is pay in cash and you'll glide by TSA. lol I know people do this, but it would seem airlines would catch drift (probably through TSA) and generally make your life hell if you travelled alot as I do.
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Dec 30, 2014 20:05
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I did this a few years ago. It was cheaper to fly Japan-Australia-NZ (two-week stay)-Australia-Vancouver than to fly Vancouver direct.  Oh well, free trip.
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Smoking_Dragon posted:If you make me get on the flight I'll send a Tweet calling your flight attendants 'ugly-rear end hoes!' This is a bunch of hoes  This is a bunch of hos and a mountain of steroids 
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Darth123123 posted:All you need to do now is pay in cash and you'll glide by TSA. lol The only way TSA is going to give you hell is if you look middle eastern or if you are on a no-fly list. While I'm not 100% positive I doubt that airlines have any call who is on the no-fly list.
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Ocean Book posted:one time I bought a bus ticket to binghamton but didn't get off and went all the way to NYC. this actually sucked for me because I wanted to get to binghamton, but you could use that trick to save money on bus tickets I guess were you hiding because greyhound makes everyone get off the bus (Also the past few times I've checked its not been cheaper than a loving plane lmao)
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Smoking_Dragon posted:The only way TSA is going to give you hell is if you look middle eastern or if you are on a no-fly list. While I'm not 100% positive I doubt that airlines have any call who is on the no-fly list. I'm fairly certain TSA (among other agencies) do big data type data analytics on ticket purchases. Frequency, locations, cash, one-ways with odd/disconnected locations, etc. 
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Windows 98 posted:I heard that for every time you ride a plane and don't crash your chances of crashing the next time double. It's sort of this diminishing return effect that prevents people from flying too much. How the hell does that even work. If you had a 1/100 chance to find a dollar today, and a 1/100 chance to find a dollar tomorrow, your total chance of finding a dollar is 1-(1- 1/100)^2.. which is not a doubling function. It's logarithmic. After 100 days, you're only at a 60% chance of finding that crisp dollar bill throughout that 100 days. E: I fly twice a year to visit the gf, and it's kinda bullshit on how airlines operate. "Oh get our credit card and you get 4 inches extra legroom... maybe?"
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nullEntityRNG posted:How the hell does that even work. If you had a 1/100 chance to find a dollar today, and a 1/100 chance to find a dollar tomorrow, your total chance of finding a dollar is 1-(1- 1/100)^2.. which is not a doubling function. It's logarithmic. After 100 days, you're only at a 60% chance of finding that crisp dollar bill throughout that 100 days. Looks like someone doesn't know how numbers work (it's you)
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nullEntityRNG posted:How the hell does that even work. If you had a 1/100 chance to find a dollar today, and a 1/100 chance to find a dollar tomorrow, your total chance of finding a dollar is 1-(1- 1/100)^2.. which is not a doubling function. It's logarithmic. After 100 days, you're only at a 60% chance of finding that crisp dollar bill throughout that 100 days. If you flip a standard coin there is a 50% chance it will land on heads even if it has landed on tails the past 50 times in a row.
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Robo Reagan posted:Looks like someone doesn't know how numbers work (it's you) ...Oh. Whoops gently caress, you're right. I'm doing something completely wrong. It's P(A) + P(B), not P(A)P(B). 
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A Yolo Wizard posted:were you hiding because greyhound makes everyone get off the bus (Also the past few times I've checked its not been cheaper than a loving plane lmao) no i was just stupid. i wish they had made me get off because i got to spend extra dollars and many hours trying to get to binghamton. maybe theyve figured out my cool trick and are watching out for it now.
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Dec 30, 2014 20:53
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A Yolo Wizard posted:were you hiding because greyhound makes everyone get off the bus (Also the past few times I've checked its not been cheaper than a loving plane lmao) Most of the stops though they don't actually check your ticket if you were already on the bus, they just let you get back on and not give a gently caress. Source: I rode greyhound one time and it was not that fun.
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TwoStepBoog posted:all depends on airports and airlines. take Minneapolis where a majority of the flights in/out are Delta. Delta can jack up the price since they control a large portion of the airport. hahahahahahahahahahaha Holy poo poo, I knew it was generally out of whack, but this is a loving ridiculous mark up.
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For the $450 difference you could forget about checked baggage, buy new clothes at your destination, and then mail them back to yourself on the last day.
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the airlines are gonna win this b/c consumers having accurate information when participating in the market is grossly unfair and un-american. it's a travesty against our god-blessed tradition of stacked decks and rigged gamesRobo Reagan posted:This is a bunch of hos and a mountain of steroids speaking of stacked decks...!!!
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Ville Valo posted:The airlines don't have an issue with people using this One Weird Trick. People have been doing it for decades. no they had an issue, it just wasn't as large also gently caress expensive airlines for anything except long haul flights, if i'm going from berlin to london i want to go on a flying bus and not pay for a full featured flying experience
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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blowfish posted:no they had an issue, it just wasn't as large If I'm on a flight that's less than like.. 6 or 8 hours I just don't give a poo poo anymore fire me out of a catapult vaguely pointed at my destination I don't like the cheapo guys being super bitchy about the size of your carry on bag, though gently caress you man I KNOW I CAN GET IT UP THERE
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being contemptuous of your customers is the american way gently caress you for flying delta
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:Most of the stops though they don't actually check your ticket if you were already on the bus, they just let you get back on and not give a gently caress. I rode it once it was ok but I slept through the crazy lady calling up people in the middle of the night from her pile of business cards and cursing at them until she was detained in chicago its insane that it costs as much or more to take the bus for 2 days as it is for me to just get launched over there in 2 hours on a highly sophisticated flying machine though. The wifi is free on the bus and you get to eat at mcdonalds for not airport prices but ehh moron izzard fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Dec 30, 2014 |
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Pull on your bootstraps hard enough and commercial air travel is just a thing of some neoliberalist wet dream
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Robo Reagan posted:This is a bunch of hoes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K76HbbxsBs
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I hope the judges correctly gave him points for that. He was actually right!
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GORDON posted:So what are they going to do, march people to their connecting flight with cattle prods? TSA 
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