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Bourque was PPG 13 years in a row. 3 of those (and a 4th one) were in Lidstrom's era too. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Jan 5, 2015 |
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Aphrodite posted:Bourque was PPG 13 years in a row. Yeah, I knew that but was he better defensively than Lidstrom?
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Jan 5, 2015 00:54
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INSPECTAH DECK posted:That's true with all of these guys we're talking about, including the aforementioned Bourque. Lidstrom was ridiculously good but Ray Bourque is the all time leader in shots by like 1000 so I'm pretty sure his corsi/fenwick must have been outrageous most years.
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Jan 5, 2015 00:59
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INSPECTAH DECK posted:That's true with all of these guys we're talking about, including the aforementioned Bourque. yeah i mean bourque is the all time leader in SOG, by a considerable margin, and he was a defenseman. efb i guess
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Jan 5, 2015 01:01
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Austrian mook posted:Yeah, I knew that but was he better defensively than Lidstrom? part of "being good defensively" is making it unnecessary for your team to have to play in its own zone/the neutral zone
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Jan 5, 2015 01:02
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a false posted:part of "being good defensively" is making it unnecessary for your team to have to play in its own zone/the neutral zone Yeah, absolutely but defending against another teams rush is a real thing and something that one player can be better at than another player also.
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Jan 5, 2015 01:06
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he was good austrin mook ok?
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quote:Aaron Portzline @Aportzline 41m41 minutes ago  It wasn't Tim Peel, unfortunately.
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Austrian mook posted:Yeah, absolutely but defending against another teams rush is a real thing and something that one player can be better at than another player also. ray bourque was good at that.
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Jan 5, 2015 01:17
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man either I'm a lot older than most of you or you all weren't paying very close attention back in the day, Bourque was maybe the most well rounded hockey player to ever play the game and he was pretty easily the third best player of his era.....behind two guys who are usually listed as 1/2 of all time.
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Jan 5, 2015 01:19
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bewbies posted:man either I'm a lot older than most of you or you all weren't paying very close attention back in the day, Bourque was maybe the most well rounded hockey player to ever play the game and he was pretty easily the third best player of his era.....behind two guys who are usually listed as 1/2 of all time. Where's the cups?
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grack posted:Sharks placed Joe Thornton on IR They also said Tyler Kennedy won't play later in this trip but is "getting better", RIP Pignose
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Austrian mook posted:Where's the cups? Pretty sure you're just trolling but this is a real dumb post. If you can't see the difference between Lidstrom's Wings teams and Bourque's Boston teams then I don't know what to tell you. It's almost like it's easier to win cups on a dynasty team playing with 4 other Hall of Famers than on a bunch of teams that ranged from bad to average without any other elite players. Ground breaking stuff here
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Jan 5, 2015 02:39
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Just a heads up - Jarome Iginla will win his Cup this season after being traded to the Kings at the deadline (à la Carter, Gaborik). Unless that only works if the player is coming from the Blue Jackets and/or in even-numbered years. In which case the Kings miss the playoffs entirely.
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Jan 5, 2015 02:40
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I prefer Iggy No Cups. Pleads isn't allowed to have any happiness in hockey
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No Cups Iggy is going to look good in the hall in 2021 (not a first ballot, natch)
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Jan 5, 2015 04:09
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gently caress Erik Cole, god bless Patrick Sharp. Also, what the gently caress Corey Crawford.
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Jan 5, 2015 04:39
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The Stars hockey team is really playing strong right now. Outshooting the Blackhawks at even strength on the 2nd night of a back to back is a huge accomplishment. Kari Lehtonen on the other hand seems to be getting worse as the year goes on. I wonder if the Stars ask really nicely if the league will allow them to use one of the compliance buyouts from the last lockout that they never bothered with at the time.
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For getting totally outpossessed and usually playing like poo poo with a lead, I'll take the point. 9-2-1 last 12, start the goddamn rally.Starsfan posted:Kari Lehtonen on the other hand seems to be getting worse as the year goes on. I wonder if the Stars ask really nicely if the league will allow them to use one of the compliance buyouts from the last lockout that they never bothered with at the time. Kind of expected, though. "Our goalie is playing through an injury." *starts him 12 times in a row* Solid work from Jordan Benn, Jon Klingsmann and Dominic Roussel, as Dave Strader called it. DOOMocrat fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Jan 5, 2015 |
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Jan 5, 2015 04:43
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xzzy posted:gently caress Erik Cole, god bless Patrick Sharp. He's an All Star, he doesn't need this poo poo.
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Aphrodite posted:He's an All Star, he doesn't need this poo poo. Corey 'loving All Star Crow" Crawford, #CupIn13
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DOOMocrat posted:For getting totally outpossessed and usually playing like poo poo with a lead, I'll take the point. 9-2-1 last 12, start the goddamn rally. Well totally outpossessed might have had something to do with the PP advantage to Chicago. At even strength 5 on 5 in that game the Blackhawks were only +5 in fenwick (40 to 35) and the Stars actually got one more puck through to the net than Chicago. It was a great effort given the circumstances - Dallas 2nd game in two nights and 3rd in 4, Chicago 2 days off since the winter classic game to prepare. I agree that you can expect a goaltender to struggle in 2 starts on back to back nights, but that goal allowed with 2 minutes left in the game was simply inexcusable. The Hawks hadn't generated a scoring chance in 10 minutes before that and he lets a floater in clean from the corner. Team can't make the playoffs throwing away games like that, it's already hard enough to win when your goaltender is on his game in this league.
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Starsfan posted:The Stars hockey team is really playing strong right now. Outshooting the Blackhawks at even strength on the 2nd night of a back to back is a huge accomplishment. Chill. You don't buyout a goalie who has been above league average as a starter for the last three years just because he's having an off year. What most teams would do, is they'd let their backup get more games in, or some promising prospect from the AHL. Unfortunately for the Stars, all of those options are terrible.
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Jan 5, 2015 04:53
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preds blew another lead late but got a point. 3/4 in LA and anaheim is never really a bad thing. and we got to meet mike fisher's biggest fan and see them hug on ice. http://gfycat.com/FoolishOptimalDromaeosaur also ribeiro's up to 35 points in 38 games 
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toe knee hand posted:Chill. You don't buyout a goalie who has been above league average as a starter for the last three years just because he's having an off year. I'd be fine with an off year but the guy is 31 years old and we're on the hook for what? 4 more years (this is what I used to use cap geek for). It's not exactly uncommon for goaltenders (and any player that isn't a superstar really) to have their games completely fall apart when they get into their 30's. That contract is going to be an anchor around the Stars' neck these next seasons unless by some miracle they can offload it.
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Speaking of anchors, everyone talks about how Toews and Kane making $10.8mil* next year is gonna hurt the Hawks, but they forget Bickell and Crawford making a combined $10mil*  *going off memory. I miss capgeek 
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what the gently caress capgeek is down now too? i think every single good internet resource for the nhl has gone offline in the last 6 months now.
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The Dirty Burger posted:Speaking of anchors, everyone talks about how Toews and Kane making $10.8mil* next year is gonna hurt the Hawks, but they forget Bickell and Crawford making a combined $10mil* 10.5 nhlnumbers isnt as pretty or intuitive as capgeek but has most of the same numbers
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Tyler "teej" Johnson is good exclamation point.
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Jan 5, 2015 05:29
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Since SA was dead for me during the game, Columbus/Colorado was a game full of stupid plays (David Savard with an abhorrent pass into the slot feeding Jarome Iginla for a gimme goal 30 seconds in), stupid goals (David Savard with an abhorrent pass into the slot feeding Jarome Iginla for a gimme goal 30 seconds in), and stupid penalties (Throwing The Stick Onto The Ice is a minor penalty and Colorado did it  ).But then David Savard blasted the GWG past Varlamov with 1:01 to go in regulation, so I'll take it. 11-3-1 last 15. 
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Jan 5, 2015 05:59
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Oilers 2-0-2 since Todd Nelson was named the "for real we mean it interim head coach".
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MassaShowtime posted:Oilers 2-0-2 since Todd Nelson was named the "for real we mean it interim head coach". Go Canes
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Man, so many "bubble" teams need defense, Sekera is actually going to go for a fuckin 1st and prospect. And the Oilers will trade Jeff Petry for a 4th or something
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Zamboni Jesus posted:what the gently caress capgeek is down now too? i think every single good internet resource for the nhl has gone offline in the last 6 months now. Coming next season: Rogers (tm) Hockey Stats, all your stats in one place. Monthly subscription required.
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The Dirty Burger posted:Man, so many "bubble" teams need defense, Sekera is actually going to go for a fuckin 1st and prospect. And the Oilers will trade Jeff Petry for a 4th or something Sekera is good and merits that return, especially in a world where Paul Gaustad gets traded for a 1st round pick and then re-signed to a 4 year, $13 million deal.
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Jagr has been the greatest puck carrier since the invention of television and Zack Lidstorm was so good that the Red Wings had to run to the East to remain a playoff team after he retired, discuss.
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nature6pk posted:Jagr has been the greatest puck carrier since the invention of television and Zack Lidstorm was so good that the Red Wings had to run to the East to remain a playoff team after he retired, discuss. Burnaby Joe Sakic built the log cabin he was born in himself and also had the decency to retire while he was still a top center mans instead of dragging his rotting corpse around a bunch of shitstain Eastern Conference teams in his 40s, fuckin' Yammy. Oh yeah he couldn't even score more goals than the one (1) Seguin managed in 2013, so much for chasing Cups. Precambrian Video Games fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Jan 5, 2015 |
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MassaShowtime posted:Oilers 2-0-2 since Todd Nelson was named the "for real we mean it interim head coach". to be fair the islanders played like absolute loving dogshit tonight and 3 of their (edmonton's) goals were practically scored by the islanders
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eXXon posted:Burnaby Joe Sakic built the log cabin he was born in himself and also had the decency to retire while he was still a top center mans instead of dragging his rotting corpse around a bunch of shitstain Eastern Conference teams in his 40s, fuckin' Yammy. Oh yeah he couldn't even score more goals than the one (1) Seguin managed in 2013, so much for chasing Cups. joe sakic basically ended his career due to a snow blower mishap
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eXXon posted:Burnaby Joe Sakic built the log cabin he was born in himself and also had the decency to retire while he was still a top center mans instead of dragging his rotting corpse around a bunch of shitstain Eastern Conference teams in his 40s, fuckin' Yammy. Oh yeah he couldn't even score more goals than the one (1) Seguin managed in 2013, so much for chasing Cups. I once got an unmarked envelope in in the mail with only a DVD inside. It was a video of Burnaby Joe Sakic making love to my wife. It was the most beautiful thing I ever seen.
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