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Gargamel Gibson posted:Oh yeah, the 1946 pistol, SMG and AR are clearly sci-fied up versions of the Luger, Thompson and Stg-44 respectively. No doubt about that. I was just wondering about the AK-74 derail. Aha, my bad! Yeah good question. Btw didn't see this one in Kefkafloyd Music Corner, but this is my favorite tune from the game: Wolfenstein: The New Order Main Theme (Alternative Version) Hope I didn't spoil a future update you had planned Kefkafloyd.
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MShadowy posted:Considering that we're talking about Nazi's here, I'd expect the battleship to still be their main fighting ship, yeah. We don't really know a lot about the disposition of this AH's Kriegsmarine though; so far the only thing we've read that has anything to do with it was regarding half the American navy being sunk at the Battle of Leyte, which was pretty nonspecific except for a mention of U-boats. Still, if U-Boats themselves played as decisive a role as was implied I imagine the Nazi leadership probably weren't too impressed with carrier power; honeslt,y right now I'm wondering if we might see hilarious amounts of resources sunk into submarine battleships. Given the Da'at Yichud tech they had by that point I wouldn't be surprised at all if they came up with some sort of stealth booster for their subs and were able to ambush the crap out of the American carriers and then pincer the escorts with their heavy battleships. We may or may not find out what actually happened, though given that the next stop seems to be stealing a sub we stand a good chance of finding out. I wonder what Deathshead has done to submarines 
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Neruz posted:Given the Da'at Yichud tech they had by that point I wouldn't be surprised at all if they came up with some sort of stealth booster for their subs and were able to ambush the crap out of the American carriers and then pincer the escorts with their heavy battleships. We may or may not find out what actually happened, though given that the next stop seems to be stealing a sub we stand a good chance of finding out.
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I can think of dozens of ludicrous magical science things you could do to a sub to make it amazing so I'm really looking forward to finding out what the dev team went with.
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FinalGamer posted:I LOVE the AK47, I'm not really huge on guns and frankly they terrify me in real life, but there's something so perfectly simple about the AK47 that makes me admire how long it's stayed with the human race. Though not as long as the Colt M1911 like drat that gun has stayed SUPER-long around with us for how basic it is. I'm a big gun guy, so I actually have personal experience with the Kalashnikov and 1911. A professionally made AK (not something made from scrap metal in Somalia or the Khyber Pass) is the definition of "beauty in simplicity". It obviously isn't as inherently accurate as a nice AR-15, but it has more than enough accuracy to let you reliably hit the target at the ranges you'll be using it at. It has a lot of typical signs of a Russian gun, with a minimum of separate parts; the magazine locks in because the magazine catch is a simple spring-loaded lever, and lugs on the back of the magazine push the lever back and lock in behind it. Removing the magazine simply involves pushing the lever forward again, which lets you pull the lugs down and out. This obviously makes it a bit of a bitch to quickly insert without looking (as it has to be correctly lined up with the lever), but it's an inherently very solid lock as long as the lever doesn't physically break off. Likewise, the charging handle is simply a protrusion on the bolt that sticks out through a channel in the side of the receiver. There's some play in the parts, but everyone knows how the loose tolerances aid in reliability. While the charging handle is in a lovely position for right-handed users, it's very easy to quickly rack with your left hand by reaching over or (more comfortable for me) under the gun. The selector lever is often stiff and always noisy, but it's designed so that a recruit under a major panic who slaps the safety off will likely push it all the way down as hard as he can into semi-auto; it takes a deliberate motion to set it to the center for full auto. The M1911 isn't nearly as simple, but it stays around for a lot of reasons. It has a thin grip, making it very comfortable in almost anyone's hand at the cost of lower capacity. The safety lever is in a spot that's very natural to hit with your thumb, while the slide release lever is exactly where your left thumb lands in a two-handed grip for rapid chambering after reloading (this was made long before two-handed grips were common, so this may just be a lucky coincidence). The design is inherently accurate and it uses a relatively simple system with the tilting barrel to keep the breech locked. While I'd much rather use a P226 series gun for heavy combat, the 1911 is still around for good reason and it remains my favorite firearm.
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chitoryu12 posted:I'm a big gun guy, so I actually have personal experience with the Kalashnikov and 1911.  makes me wonder who got assigned that day to gunmaking for the M1911 as opposed to all the other handgun wierlders.But then, wasn't the Colt M1911 the first modern-style handgun, like in that style since all the other handguns back in the days before it were just really revolvers? Like wasn't this the first handgun with actual cartridge magazines as opposed to loading bullets in by the barrel chambers individually?
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PAnick posted:Aha, my bad! Yeah good question. Damnit, PAnick, that track is a spoiler! It has yet to appear in the LP!  But because you're so great and your contributions to this game are innumerable and instrumental, I'll let it slide.  (Seriously, for those who haven't played the game yet, don't listen to it until we get to the last level). While I like that track a lot, it's my second favorite of the game. My absolute favorite has yet to come across yet, but we'll get to it soon enough. kefkafloyd fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Jan 4, 2015 |
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FinalGamer posted:Well goddamn, I always had to wonder so it was just really the fact it was designed so perfectly well in being very easy to handle and wield and so forth rather than by any terms of production simplicity. That's awesome to know Moses Browning. He also made the Browning M2, the .50 cal-est of all .50 cals
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FinalGamer posted:Well goddamn, I always had to wonder so it was just really the fact it was designed so perfectly well in being very easy to handle and wield and so forth rather than by any terms of production simplicity. That's awesome to know Ergonomics and ease of use are a major part of anything's success. The AK seems like an ergonomic nightmare at first (though many of its flaws are present in plenty of other contemporary weapons), but the results of its decisions are something that's quite easy for a barely trained conscript to operate. It's likewise very easy to field strip for cleaning: push the big button on the back of the receiver and the top cover can be pulled right off, then pull on the button to remove the bolt carrier and recoil spring (the button is just the end of the rod the recoil spring is on) and pull the bolt out of the carrier. Within a few seconds, someone who's literally mentally disabled could strip and clean the gun. The M1911 wasn't the first semi-auto by a long shot, though the patents on its technology date back to the earliest days of successful semi-autos. For instance, there's the Steyr-Mannlicher Model 1905. It wasn't even the first gun to use a slide assembly, as John Moses Browning had popularized the Colt Model 1903. For some real pop culture obscurity, there's the Colt Model 1900. Though Browning did certainly create the pattern for almost every modern semi-auto by replacing the internal bolt with an external slide, the 1911 wasn't the first. What the 1911 did was create an ergonomic combat pistol. Traditionally, powerful .44 and .45 caliber pistol cartridges were almost entirely restricted to revolvers. The only "combat pistol" rounds out there were 9x19mm Parabellum (created for the Luger pistol) and the 7.63x25mm Mauser round for the Mauser C96 (which had the highest velocity of any pistol cartridge until the .357 Magnum came out in 1935, but it also had a very small and light bullet that made it lack reliable killing power). The M1911 was not only an attractive and ergonomic pistol, it had power behind it that matched or exceeded existing service revolvers worldwide like the Webley Mk. IV or the Colt Single Action Army. It definitely beat the .32 and .380 caliber pocket pistols that were traditional in European military practice; the pistol was meant to be a symbol of an officer's authority and mostly used to execute deserters or emergency self-defense, much like the sword used to. I think a big part of this is that the United States has a long history of cavalry (a necessity out on the open plains of the western frontier, especially for fighting Native Americans), so they have a long tradition of using handguns in combat that went into the 20th century and influenced their ideas on what a pistol should be like. This likely set the stage for the continued introduction of handguns that can be effective in combat. Browning also made the Browning Hi-Power, which predated the "Wonder Nines" of the 70s and 80s by 40 years with its 13-round magazine of 9mm rounds. The old pocket pistols used as a badge of rank were set aside in favor of 9mm, often high capacity models that could be effective in close combat.
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kefkafloyd posted:Damnit, PAnick, that track is a spoiler! It has yet to appear in the LP!  too late i listened to it.
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I, uh, didn't mean that the AK was in the game. If it is, it's hidden in a corner somewhere, I'm sure. I was just complaining about the name of the 74. Sure, it follows the naming convention, but it just seems like the kind of thing where someone was just dying for 1973 to be over so they could name the newest iteration of the AK with the numbers reversed.
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JcDent posted:Moses Browning. He also made the Browning M2, the .50 cal-est of all .50 cals If we were to list Browning's accomplishments we would be listing off almost every modern firearm influence I mean as has been mentioned previously we can thank him for giving us the semi-auto handguns we have today with the 1911 and the Hi-PowerPersonally my favourite is the Browning A5, what's that a semi-auto shotgun that doesn't use a piston system but instead uses inertia? In 1902 you say 
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kefkafloyd posted:Damnit, PAnick, that track is a spoiler! It has yet to appear in the LP! I'll be more careful. Meanwhile my fiancee is eagerly waiting for the next episode Lazyfire. She enjoys your play trough a lot more then mine when I tried to show the game off to her.
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Sounds like you should have gotten the PC version, instead of the one released on the NoGirlFriendo Entertainment System.
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Captain Bravo posted:Sounds like you should have gotten the PC version, instead of the one released on the NoGirlFriendo Entertainment System. Who's that a reply to - if it's to PAnick, you are aware that that guy is one of the devs of this game, right?
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hectorgrey posted:Who's that a reply to - if it's to PAnick, you are aware that that guy is one of the devs of this game, right? *whoosh*
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And he also said it's his fiancee, not a girlfriend! continuity error! 
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PAnick posted:Argh! Well that's embarrassing, shows that you guys know more then I do about my own game in some areas. Your fiancee likes my videos more than my wife, who refuses to watch anything I make because she's afraid she'll hurt my feelings if she doesn't like it. That said, it's a great game and I'm jazzed to see it's making a number of people's top ten lists even if they are completely arbitrary and sometimes seem to be composed entirely of games made up on the spot by the list writer. This game and Shadow of Mordor are really the only two new releases I played this year and I'm pretty happy with that fact as they're both really great.
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Aces High posted:If we were to list Browning's accomplishments we would be listing off almost every modern firearm influence John Browning is basically the patron saint of firearms. Virtually every semi-automatic pistol today is a descendant of his work. He made the first successful semi-auto shotgun (the Auto-5), the first .50 caliber machine gun (the M2 heavy machine gun), the first gas-operated firearm (The Colt 1895 machine gun), the first successful repeating shotgun (the Winchester 1887 lever-action), the first successful pump-action shotgun (the Winchester 1897), and a ton of other extremely popular and influential designs. Almost every modern weapon you see today likely has some lineage that can be traced back to John Moses Browning.
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Lazyfire posted:Your fiancee likes my videos more than my wife, who refuses to watch anything I make because she's afraid she'll hurt my feelings if she doesn't like it. I liked Shadow of Mordor too, but it is just a Batman: Arkham game set in the Middle Earth universe with some Far Cry/Assassin's Creed-esque elements.
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Yanno, I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned this at all but, did you notice something new about Blazkowicz since we first entered Belica, while we were escaping? He still has the tattoo numbers on his arm  you can't see it when he's riding on the mech due to his arm position but yep, that's still there. I love that consistency.
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Dariusknight posted:I liked Shadow of Mordor too, but it is Fixed that for you. After a bunch of games trying to ape Arkham's combat and failing in ways both spectacular and depressing it's nice to see someone else get it so right. As for the Assassin's Creed part, well, the less said about how that franchise is playing these past few games, the better.
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Ughhh, this topic is making me redownload the 42GB for TNO off Steam. Playing the first level was enough to make me drop a full $60 on a game for the first time in 5 years, and I've only gotten happier and happier about that decision! The gameplay, attention to detail, characters, and atmosphere are all amazing and this is easily the best FPS I've played since COD4. Definitely a huge contrast to how dumb and disappointing Watch Dogs was. I really hope there's the support and sales needed for MachineGames to continue doing what you do. This is an awesome game and you all are awesome! And I say this in light of the fact that I really don't like the id 5 engine. The texture streaming is just awful and even at max clarity the textures are pretty lacking while still eating a gigantic load of space and VRAM. There are serious technical issues with TNO, just like there were with RAGE, but the things the game succeeded at far outweigh those negatives. Thunderbro fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jan 5, 2015 |
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Onean posted:Fixed that for you. After a bunch of games trying to ape Arkham's combat and failing in ways both spectacular and depressing it's nice to see someone else get it so right. As for the Assassin's Creed part, well, the less said about how that franchise is playing these past few games, the better. I heard Assassin's Creed Rogue is really good and I would like to play it one day (when it only cost $10)
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Blind Sally posted:I heard Assassin's Creed Rogue is really good and I would like to play it one day (when it only cost $10) Black Flag is legitimately great fun. I tried to play Unity on the Xbox One and it looks balls ugly and the framerate drops just from running through a regular crowd.
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I don't know if it's come up yet in the LP, but there's some things Set says that makes me wonder if Wolfenstein's Yahweh is an Outer God or something, because terrifying impossible technology inspired by divine communion and dreams created without any industrial base sounds a lot more Lovecraftian than Judaic.
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Small Frozen Thing posted:I don't know if it's come up yet in the LP, but there's some things Set says that makes me wonder if Wolfenstein's Yahweh is an Outer God or something, because terrifying impossible technology inspired by divine communion and dreams created without any industrial base sounds a lot more Lovecraftian than Judaic. It's not so much a matter of building the horrible things as a result of divine communion as building them to achieve divine communion. Da'at-Yichud are basically the Golem myth but with super-science.
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Ah, it hasn't gotten to there yet. I'll bring it up when we get there, sorry. Edit: Also, that comparison only supports my argument. Yahweh created humans from clay, so the creation of the golem is an act that is in resonance with that. Yahweh isn't generally associated with absurdly advanced technology and ancient superscience. ... Well, except for some goofy anime and JRPGs I guess. I Killed GBS fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Jan 5, 2015 |
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Since this thread often strays into the sheer stupidity and evil of the Nazis, I thought I'd share this article about mad killer Nazi super cows. I'm not kidding.
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Herds of majestic neo-aurochs goring children all over Europe sounds just about right for a Nazi plot.
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Lazyfire I hate you for making me want to redownload all 42G of this game yesterday. Took all day, but I forgot just how fun this game is. Finally doing the Wyatt timeline this playthrough though, so at least I'm seeing new stuff.
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Rasler posted:Since this thread often strays into the sheer stupidity and evil of the Nazis, I thought I'd share this article about mad killer Nazi super cows. And again, the idea of a providing a superior form of product over established norms is under-mined by the stupidity of the Nazis.
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Samovar posted:And again, the idea of a providing a superior form of product over established norms is under-mined by the stupidity of the Nazis. Admittedly, it is a fine looking animal. With sufficient husbanding, the physical traits can be kept and the aggressive tendencies greatly reduced. E: talking about animal breeding always makes me feel like a Nazi.
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Yes but apparently aggression was a desired trait. They wanted to make the meanest angriest cattle they could so they could feel better for killing it.quote:Gow, who brought the cattle to the UK to study and as subjects for photography, said: “When the Germans were selecting them to create this animal they used Spanish fighting cattle to give them the shape and ferocity they wanted. The reason the Nazis were so supportive of the project is they wanted them to be fierce and aggressive. Also: requisite laughter at them attempting to distil "Aryan" traits out of non-aryan stock.
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Right, but there's no reason the breed can't be made safer than it is now while retaining quite a bit of spirit. Nazi burgers sound tasty.
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Nothing screams "aryan" like spanish fighting bulls and nothing is more practical than farm cattle than is stupidly aggressive and capable of goring you to death. Nazis are like stupid teenagers put in charge of a country if they weren't a bunch of genocidal maniacs.Everything has to be TOTALLY agressive and cool and manly and gently caress YOU MOM I'll take out the garbage when I'm done with EUGENICS ...god
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Mortuus posted:Lazyfire I hate you for making me want to redownload all 42G of this game yesterday. Took all day, but I forgot just how fun this game is. Finally doing the Wyatt timeline this playthrough though, so at least I'm seeing new stuff. 42 GB is a stupid big size for a game, but there's so much to it that an afternoon of downloading (or for me, about an hour) is worth it.
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Lamadrid posted:Nothing screams "aryan" like spanish fighting bulls and nothing is more practical than farm cattle than is stupidly aggressive and capable of goring you to death. I think that's a pretty apt description as it is.
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You have come to a savage land called... Gow. *whip crack*Lazyfire posted:42 GB is a stupid big size for a game, but there's so much to it that an afternoon of downloading (or for me, about an hour) is worth it. This and Titanfall at 50GB makes me think publishers have finally found a semi-effective anti-piracy measure. I'd take a day out of the office to fight piracy versus a day spent compressing all those audio files and cinematics.
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!