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double nine
Aug 8, 2013

If you have activated it, the closest bonfire that is applicable is the daughter of chaos warp location that drops you next to the queelaag bossfight.

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Dooky Dingo
Feb 17, 2011

Gym badge day is a VERY dangerous day!
Update at the bottom of previous page for those who missed it:

:pcgaming:Chapter 14: The Return of Smushy:pcgaming:

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
Yeah, looks like you never activated the Daughter of Chaos.

Also, the way I see it, Lore is in the item descriptions, the story is in the world building of Dark Souls.

For the most part, anyway. The environments kind of tell a story without any words on their own.

Rhumbus
May 11, 2009
You all seem to not know that, in 3.5E DnD, Wizards ARE Batmen.

Dooky Dingo
Feb 17, 2011

Gym badge day is a VERY dangerous day!
Hey goons, good news/bad news.

The bad news is that Dark Souls video won't be out till Friday.

The good news is... Well... THE NEW BORDERLANDS THREAD IS UP.

Dooky Dingo
Feb 17, 2011

Gym badge day is a VERY dangerous day!
:siren::ducksiren:NEW VIDEO DAY!:ducksiren::siren:
Chapter 15: A Giant Failure

Hey goons, it's Friday, and I promised you a video, didn't I?
Merry Christmas, ya filthy animals! :cheers:

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
Just before I posted "where's my video Dooky".

Thanks for the Christmas video!

Mr. Soop
Feb 18, 2011

Bonsai Guy
Sick Jotsam sounds like a southern Henry Kissinger. :staredog:

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

if you're still taking information dumps, follow the blue lights which will send you to a second bonfire, which is also a warp destination if you need to get supplies. You can run past 90% of the dogs without them going aggro on you if you are fast enough - though you need to know where you're going in advance so that's not going to help you here. Also, their aggro radiuses is tiny as hell. There is a good ring if you drop down the ledge near the archer (where the halbert silver knight was), be careful before dropping off (use prism stones?), it's easy to miss the ledge and plunge into the depths. There is fun (and lore) to be had if you get to the end of the darkness area while human - npc invader that drops kickass shield. The Tomb is actually pretty straightforward and linear if you just want to get to the bossfight. From the (undiscovered) bonfire, keep following the right-hand wall. Kill the giant soldier you come across, run past the dogs, keep going until you get back in a lighted area.


If smushy has 14 intelligence, the sorcery store in Darkroot lake has an extremely useful spell for sale for this area.

Dooky Dingo
Feb 17, 2011

Gym badge day is a VERY dangerous day!
:siren::ducksiren:New Video Day!:ducksiren::siren:
Chapter 16: That's real Nito

Happy New Year, goons! :toot:

Unless you're Chinese or Jewish or something, I guess? :sugartits:

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

<3
This playthrough is just great. I love it. Smushy completely lost his mind when that last dog penis hit him and forgot he still had some fire left in him.

Hrvstmn31
Aug 2, 2014

You did what in your cup?
That was pretty brutal I can't believe I watched that moving trainwreck I think it looked something like this.



Anyway I picked up a spare copy of Dark Souls Prepare to Die Edition so if you want to want to contest it out or something you can.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
Quite honestly though, most of that was entirely their own fault.

Tomb of Giants isn't my favorite part of the game, but the game does give you a lot of tools for tackling it and it's a bit silly to complain about difficulty when the wrecking of the skeleton dogs is what is happening on screen. Quite opposite of hard, isn't it?

Dooky Dingo
Feb 17, 2011

Gym badge day is a VERY dangerous day!

Mordaedil posted:

Quite honestly though, most of that was entirely their own fault.

Tomb of Giants isn't my favorite part of the game, but the game does give you a lot of tools for tackling it and it's a bit silly to complain about difficulty when the wrecking of the skeleton dogs is what is happening on screen. Quite opposite of hard, isn't it?
Quit bringing logic into this! :mad:

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
Tell Jotsam to stop using pyromancy like a scrub. The only real way to play dark souls is at SL1 and only using an unascended broken straight sword :reject:

Kobold eBooks
Mar 5, 2007

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AN OPEN PALM SLAM A CARTRIDGE IN THE SUPER FAMICOM. ITS E-ZEAO AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE THE MAIN CHARACTER, CORPORAL FALCOM.

Mordaedil posted:

Quite honestly though, most of that was entirely their own fault.

Tomb of Giants isn't my favorite part of the game, but the game does give you a lot of tools for tackling it and it's a bit silly to complain about difficulty when the wrecking of the skeleton dogs is what is happening on screen. Quite opposite of hard, isn't it?

From my experience, the thing about the Tomb of the Giants is that you either utterly wreck the skeleton dogs, or you die thirty times in a row until you pick up some Pyromancy and utterly wreck the skeleton dogs.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

bathroomrage posted:

From my experience, the thing about the Tomb of the Giants is that you either utterly wreck the skeleton dogs, or you die thirty times in a row until you pick up some Pyromancy and utterly wreck the skeleton dogs.

or focus on sorcery the entire game long and don't understand what the hell people are bitching about :smuggo:

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

bathroomrage posted:

From my experience, the thing about the Tomb of the Giants is that you either utterly wreck the skeleton dogs, or you die thirty times in a row until you pick up some Pyromancy and utterly wreck the skeleton dogs.

Naw, like most enemies, the skeleton dogs are also defeated by a cautious, slow playstyle, where you attack twice, and then either roll back or turtle behind a shield.

Any type of magic will of course trivialize them too.

Kobold eBooks
Mar 5, 2007

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AN OPEN PALM SLAM A CARTRIDGE IN THE SUPER FAMICOM. ITS E-ZEAO AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE THE MAIN CHARACTER, CORPORAL FALCOM.

double nine posted:

or focus on sorcery the entire game long and don't understand what the hell people are bitching about :smuggo:

Sorcery is just a rich man's Pyromancy.

Firebombs are a poor man's Pyromancy. :getin:

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

bathroomrage posted:

Sorcery is just a rich man's Pyromancy.

Firebombs are a poor man's Pyromancy. :getin:

I disliked doing jolly cooperation in Undead Parish due to the undead horde+channeler combo which is annoying ... until I discovered you can kill the channeler with 2 regular firebombs if you throw them from the altar. Bastard never even gets the chance to fire a soul arrow or do his stupid dance*.






*actually I like the dance a lot.

Dooky Dingo
Feb 17, 2011

Gym badge day is a VERY dangerous day!
:siren::ducksiren:NEW VIDEO DAY!:ducksiren::siren:
Chapter 17: John Wayne's Archive

Today, we discuss violence in libraries and why Jotsam has horrible taste in things!
(I can say this because TechnoWife browses these threads, but they NEVER post.) :cheeky:

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
Your contribution to the video did not disappoint Dingo. Good job.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

The area after the Duke's archives certainly has an interesting ... quirk. Also Duke's is a lot more satisfying if you are using sorceries because you get your most potent spells here.

Dooky Dingo
Feb 17, 2011

Gym badge day is a VERY dangerous day!
So, Jotsam brings up an interesting point in the video, and I would like all of your opinions.
He is getting to a point in Dark Souls where he is feeling slightly burnt out by clearly antagonistic game design and was asking me the question of whether or not it gets any better from here.
I'm honestly not sure what to tell him, so what do you guys think?
Is the best yet to come or has the light of Dark Souls finally faded into the past?

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

Dooky Dingo posted:

So, Jotsam brings up an interesting point in the video, and I would like all of your opinions.
He is getting to a point in Dark Souls where he is feeling slightly burnt out by clearly antagonistic game design and was asking me the question of whether or not it gets any better from here.
I'm honestly not sure what to tell him, so what do you guys think?
Is the best yet to come or has the light of Dark Souls finally faded into the past?

I personally think that the bed of chaos is pretty great, especially if you have done the side quest and I rather like the gimmick in new londo, but it is frustrating sometimes. The DLC is really cool looking and Manus and the knights of Gwyn have a lot of cool lore that Jotsam will ignore. Plus, the final boss of the game is a big, dumb jobber who can be parried into oblivion, which is always fun. I would say go for it, but I absolutely adore DS1, so I may be a little biased

For what it's worth, TOTG and the archives are the worst parts of the game. Like, I have abandoned 20+ hour playthroughs in those locations because they are so drat frustrating

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

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The DLC is pretty fun, IDK. I thought the Kiln was pretty great. I don't remember if he's done Lost Izalith yet or the Four Kings, and though Lost Izalith definitely sucks, it's up in the air for New Londo.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

Dooky Dingo posted:

So, Jotsam brings up an interesting point in the video, and I would like all of your opinions.
He is getting to a point in Dark Souls where he is feeling slightly burnt out by clearly antagonistic game design and was asking me the question of whether or not it gets any better from here.
I'm honestly not sure what to tell him, so what do you guys think?
Is the best yet to come or has the light of Dark Souls finally faded into the past?

IMO all of the post-lord vessel areas are a step down vs the early game highlights, with the exception of New Londo and the DLC area. I also felt drained at this point, the areas are still doable and reasonably fun (except Tomb. gently caress tomb) _but_ we're past the high point of the game. OTOH, I feel that the dlc area is great and I enjoy it almost as much as Undead Burg (while still being difficult). Just one warning: the dlc has 2 really great boss battles, and 1 highly difficult but cool bossfight, and 1 BullShit bossfight.

Do you want Jotsam to have some tips? He should go back to the female undead merchant for ... stuff he hasn't bought yet, and he should go back to the Asylum and trade a skull lantern to the crow for the Izalith area (and possibly Duke as well, but by the time he can warp he's through the area that it's useful).

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

Gologle posted:

The DLC is pretty fun, IDK. I thought the Kiln was pretty great. I don't remember if he's done Lost Izalith yet or the Four Kings, and though Lost Izalith definitely sucks, it's up in the air for New Londo.

Oh.....I forgot about the stuff leading up to the bed of chaos..... that poo poo is so annoying I blocked it all out of my memory besides Solaire's side quest. Ummmm..... yeah, that's a hell of a thing to play through. I hope he liked the Capra Demon.

I stand by my recommendation for new londo though

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

The Door Frame posted:

Oh.....I forgot about the stuff leading up to the bed of chaos..... that poo poo is so annoying I blocked it all out of my memory besides Solaire's side quest. Ummmm..... yeah, that's a hell of a thing to play through. I hope he liked the Capra Demon.

I stand by my recommendation for new londo though

They haven't done New Londo yet? Okay Jotsam, my recommendation: Finish Duke Archives and kill Seath (bleh), go through new londo (yay), then Lost Izalith (bleh) and finish with the DLC (yay). You can switch those around but I think this is a slightly better paced approach.

It helps that the character isn't a sorcerer because the dlc is juicy with good spells, which would make that area a higher priority.

double nine fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Jan 8, 2015

Tomapella
Aug 18, 2007

It's only fair to tell you,
I'm absolutely cuckoo.

double nine posted:

They haven't done New Londo yet? Okay Jotsam, my recommendation: Finish Duke Archives and kill Seath (bleh), go through new londo (yay), then Lost Izalith (bleh) and finish with the DLC (yay). You can switch those around but I think this is a slightly better paced approach.

It helps that the character isn't a sorcerer because the dlc is juicy with good spells, which would make that area a higher priority.

That's a good plan of action. The next area is pretty short and has a comparatively easy boss, and New Londo is one of the better areas in the game, especially since the first half isn't gonna be much of an issue with your high level. And Lost Izalith...ugh. I forget, did he activate the shortcut? I get my Dark Souls LPs mixed up.

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

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Yeah, same here. I'm mixing up Geop's and this LP, but gently caress going back through the videos to sort it all out. Nobody has time for that.

Dooky Dingo
Feb 17, 2011

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Welp, Jotsam has said multiple times that he's using a guide, so... I guess we'll all find out together! :shepicide:

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

Dooky Dingo posted:

Welp, Jotsam has said multiple times that he's using a guide, so... I guess we'll all find out together! :shepicide:

I'm trying to kill the second-most-difficult boss in the game on SL 1 (that drat monkey), :shepicide: you don't even know.

Dooky Dingo
Feb 17, 2011

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Chapter 18: Whatsa' matter, Seath?

The answer to what's wrong with Seath is Smushy killed interrogated him. A lot.

Also, Jotsam is bad with crystals.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

holy crap that uchi is just not doing any damage. I don't want to backseat drive here but that was not the right weapon for the area.

Dooky Dingo
Feb 17, 2011

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double nine posted:

holy crap that uchi is just not doing any damage. I don't want to backseat drive here but that was not the right weapon for the area.

No, see, you don't understand!
Jotsam is using a GUIDE! :shepicide:

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

Dooky Dingo posted:

No, see, you don't understand!
Jotsam is using a GUIDE! :shepicide:

I want to believe all guides on Dark Souls are just giant trolls on anyone following it. By this time though, I had a +4 lightning uchigatana on my character. Which may have been even worse (pyromancy as a backup saved me likely)

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

Just so we're clear here: the Uchigatana does slash and thrust damage, it being a sword and all. The crystal golems have strong defenses against these. The only damage type that they are even more resilient towards is magical attacks. You really should have used a blunt weapon or a lightning/fire weapon to get through this arena. You're trying to poke a crystal entity.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
I was somewhat harder for me, it actually went fairly fast for me in this video. But yeah, optimal damage would have been using a blunt weapon.

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robtoch
Jan 14, 2015
Since Smushy only interrogates, i think he should use dual caestus. Then he can interrogate the suspects to a bloody pulp

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