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Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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I took a class in my grad program that included how recruiting works on a DI and DIII level. You'd be surprised how many really, really good athletes forsake a chance at the NFL or NBA to go play for a crappy DIII college due to their academic prowess. My Athletic Director was also talking to my class about a three star recruit that my lovely DIII college picked up for football because he didn't want to be 20 miles away from his family.

I still can't explain why Myron Rolle would choose FSU over John Hopkins or Harvard though.

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ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

Doltos posted:

I took a class in my grad program that included how recruiting works on a DI and DIII level. You'd be surprised how many really, really good athletes forsake a chance at the NFL or NBA to go play for a crappy DIII college due to their academic prowess. My Athletic Director was also talking to my class about a three star recruit that my lovely DIII college picked up for football because he didn't want to be 20 miles away from his family.

I still can't explain why Myron Rolle would choose FSU over John Hopkins or Harvard though.

The nightlife obviously

Raku
Nov 7, 2012

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.

Roll Tide
probably that or the porn stars committing blatant NCAA recruiting violations

The Big Jesus
Oct 29, 2007

#essereFerrari

Raku posted:

probably that or the porn stars committing blatant NCAA recruiting violations

Hey man she just said she would bring her friends to the games. Nothing wrong with that.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Raku posted:

probably that or the porn stars committing blatant NCAA recruiting violations

I like to thing that Stephen Hawkings and Carl Sagan and Bill Nye are the thirstiest dudes. Myron Rolle's intentions were probably to earn a Rhodes scholarship at Harvard until Fisher and Bowden dangled those titties in front of him.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Doltos posted:

I took a class in my grad program that included how recruiting works on a DI and DIII level. You'd be surprised how many really, really good athletes forsake a chance at the NFL or NBA to go play for a crappy DIII college due to their academic prowess. My Athletic Director was also talking to my class about a three star recruit that my lovely DIII college picked up for football because he didn't want to be 20 miles away from his family.

I still can't explain why Myron Rolle would choose FSU over John Hopkins or Harvard though.

I think he wanted to be a pro football player

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Doltos posted:

I took a class in my grad program that included how recruiting works on a DI and DIII level. You'd be surprised how many really, really good athletes forsake a chance at the NFL or NBA to go play for a crappy DIII college due to their academic prowess. My Athletic Director was also talking to my class about a three star recruit that my lovely DIII college picked up for football because he didn't want to be 20 miles away from his family.

I still can't explain why Myron Rolle would choose FSU over John Hopkins or Harvard though.

I always heard/figured the most common reasons guys go to lower divisions is that they'd rather compete for championships at a lower level than be bottom feeders at the highest.

Raku
Nov 7, 2012

Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change.

Roll Tide
For real though the reason you go to FSU over Stanford or whatever is you're there to play football not play school

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
No that's Ohio State.

Butthead
May 31, 2011
In reality, it is every school that makes money from their football program.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

FSU DT Eddie Goldman's parents reeeeeaaaaallllly want him to stay and finish his degree. He's the last straggler in declaring whether or not he'll stay among the NFL-ready underclassmen for FSU

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

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Butthead posted:

In reality, it is every school that makes money from their football program.

Depends, we actually had to do a research project on that. You can look up most expenses by school here:

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx

DII and DIII's don't make money at all on football but more often than not football funds every other sport for a DI program. For instance, FSU made 57 million from their football program after spending 33 million in 2013-2014. It pretty much paid for every single sport combined excluding woman's basketball. Football makes so much money that it's always funny when I hear non-football athletes complain that it gets all the attention. Like bro, it's the reason your rowing team even exists.

Cash Monet
Apr 5, 2009

pillsburysoldier posted:

FSU DT Eddie Goldman's parents reeeeeaaaaallllly want him to stay and finish his degree.

Selfish bastards.

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

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Maxx Williams seems like a good fit for end of the 1st round with decent blocking ability, great body control and size with plenty of athleticism.

Anyone in the know with more details about his career at Minnesota?

Butthead
May 31, 2011

Doltos posted:

Depends, we actually had to do a research project on that. You can look up most expenses by school here:

http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx

DII and DIII's don't make money at all on football but more often than not football funds every other sport for a DI program. For instance, FSU made 57 million from their football program after spending 33 million in 2013-2014. It pretty much paid for every single sport combined excluding woman's basketball. Football makes so much money that it's always funny when I hear non-football athletes complain that it gets all the attention. Like bro, it's the reason your rowing team even exists.

What I meant was every team that does make money off their football program has shady practices that allow some or all football players to achieve their academic requirements.

Aniki
Mar 21, 2001

Wouldn't fit...

The Puppy Bowl posted:

Maxx Williams seems like a good fit for end of the 1st round with decent blocking ability, great body control and size with plenty of athleticism.

Anyone in the know with more details about his career at Minnesota?

He's a better player than his numbers indicate due to the Gophers being a run heavy offense with poor QB play. He's a willing a blocker, but could stand to improve in that area and he's a freakish athlete whose athleticism shows up in games. He'll be a better pro than college player.

The Puppy Bowl
Jan 31, 2013

A dog, in the house.

*woof*
That was my guess as well. Seriously his body control is insane, the dude could be a match up nightmare. How are his hands as far as difficult catches and consistency goes?

Schwack
Jan 31, 2003

Someone needs to stop this! Sherman has lost his mind! Peyton is completely unable to defend himself out there!

Aniki posted:

He's a better player than his numbers indicate due to the Gophers being a run heavy offense with poor QB play. He's a willing a blocker, but could stand to improve in that area and he's a freakish athlete whose athleticism shows up in games. He'll be a better pro than college player.

I'm hopeful he falls to the back of the first round, but it seems likely he's going to blow up the combine and get a huge bump. He seems like a perfect fit for my team's offense, especially with Miller likely on his way out.

Aniki
Mar 21, 2001

Wouldn't fit...

The Puppy Bowl posted:

That was my guess as well. Seriously his body control is insane, the dude could be a match up nightmare. How are his hands as far as difficult catches and consistency goes?

His hands are good and he's capable of making acrobatic catches. His consistency is a bit hard to tell, since there were some games where the Gophers barely passed, including a game where they went 1/7 on passing attempts, but he produced when he was targeted.

Schwack posted:

I'm hopeful he falls to the back of the first round, but it seems likely he's going to blow up the combine and get a huge bump. He seems like a perfect fit for my team's offense, especially with Miller likely on his way out.

The Twin Cities media likes to compare him to Jason Witten. He should do well at the combine and it's possible that a TE needy team could take him in the early 20s, but I still think he's late 1st/early 2nd.

Diva Cupcake
Aug 15, 2005

Dilfer Takes. But really there's a whole lot of draft pundits now putting out material on Winston being the top QB available.

@McMurphyESPN
Trent Dilfer on Marcus Mariota's NFL Draft position: "I would not take him before 15th (overall pick)"

Cash Monet
Apr 5, 2009

That's pretty reasonable, actually. :/

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

Ozu posted:

Dilfer Takes. But really there's a whole lot of draft pundits now putting out material on Winston being the top QB available.

@McMurphyESPN
Trent Dilfer on Marcus Mariota's NFL Draft position: "I would not take him before 15th (overall pick)"

Third round imo

E_Motion
Oct 26, 2004

Your fortuitous arrival is most welcome! Now, I am spared the bother of hunting you down!

College Slice

ZenVulgarity posted:

Third round imo

Hell, if Mariota is available in the 3rd i'd like the Ravens to draft him to replace Tyrod Time

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

Does this mean we can stop being diplomatic about maiotas pro prospects?

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

pillsburysoldier posted:

Does this mean we can stop being diplomatic about maiotas pro prospects?

The funny part is every analyst using Mariota's pro prospects as a way of justifying picking Ohio State tonight

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

ROSS MY SALAD posted:

The funny part is every analyst using Mariota's pro prospects as a way of justifying picking Ohio State tonight

It's really weird when analysts use that for a college game. I guess they ran out of things to talk about early on

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

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If Mariota falls to the Eagles, Chip's gonna take him and win several Super Bowls.

warheadr
Jul 6, 2005
Cedric Ogbuehi tore his ACL in the bowl game. Sucks for him, obviously was projected as a very high pick

Cash Monet
Apr 5, 2009

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

If Mariota falls to the Eagles, Chip's gonna take him and win several division titles and NFC runner up banners

ftfy

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Chip Kelly on ESPN RE: Marcus Mariota: "He might be the fastest guy on the field. But his mind is even faster...thinks like Peyton Manning"

aBagorn
Aug 26, 2004

Volkerball posted:

Chip Kelly on ESPN RE: Marcus Mariota: "He might be the fastest guy on the field. But his mind is even faster...thinks like Peyton Manning"

If Mariota somehow falls out of the top 10(lol never happen) there is no way Chip doesn't move up.

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Mariota will end up a Bear and never amount to anything...sorry everyone.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
Mariota is going to be a guy whose combine will be really important. He has demonstrated superb decision making in terms of finding open receivers, when to run, when to step up. Mentally, the guy has all the tools. The questions is that his offense relies on getting guys wide open, who he can connect to reliably for big gains. He does that well, but scouts will want to see if he can fit a ball into a tight window, throw the out route reliably, etc.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

swickles posted:

Mariota is going to be a guy whose combine will be really important. He has demonstrated superb decision making in terms of finding open receivers, when to run, when to step up. Mentally, the guy has all the tools. The questions is that his offense relies on getting guys wide open, who he can connect to reliably for big gains. He does that well, but scouts will want to see if he can fit a ball into a tight window, throw the out route reliably, etc.

I stayed away from watching the championship game. Judging by the the tone of this post, I take it Ohio State won?

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

pillsburysoldier posted:

I stayed away from watching the championship game. Judging by the the tone of this post, I take it Ohio State won?

I meant throughout the season.

Iodised QQ
Jul 23, 2004

After seeing the full final seasons for Winston and Mariota, the people I really feel worst for are the Bucs.

zimbomonkey
Jul 15, 2008

Tattoos? On MY black quarterback?
Mariota hurt his shoulder tonight. If it affects his draft stock and the bucs have to take winston I don't think I'll ever be able to stop laughing.

Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president
Mariota will fall because he isn't good, not because of his shoulder

D-LINK
Oct 1, 2007

I was talking to peachy Peach about kissy Kiss. He bought me a soda.
Missing that hot route to his tight end in the redzone looked real bad imo, He was wide open, but Mariota sailed it on a sure touchdown

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wheez the roux
Aug 2, 2004
THEY SHOULD'VE GIVEN IT TO LYNCH

Death to the Seahawks. Death to Seahawks posters.
Halliday going to pull a Tom Brady and in 10 years we'll be looking back on how many teams totally whiffed on him for big name busts. Book it.

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