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Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

I'm a big moron completionist baby so I will probably eventually play all of the Elder Scroll games, if given all of time.

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cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Bicyclops posted:

I'm a big moron completionist baby so I will probably eventually play all of the Elder Scroll games, if given all of time.
Morrowind is completionist's nightmare.

HyperHopper
Aug 12, 2011

The Diggle Commandos need you! Are you brave enough to join the Diggle Commandos?

What are good clip on or desktop mics that you guys use? I've been using http://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Zm-Mic1-Sensitivity-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B00029MTMQ but it makes a ton of noise whenever the cord is moved, which is constantly since it is a clip on.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




HyperHopper posted:

What are good clip on or desktop mics that you guys use? I've been using http://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Zm-Mic1-Sensitivity-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B00029MTMQ but it makes a ton of noise whenever the cord is moved, which is constantly since it is a clip on.
State your budget and needs/goals.

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro
just get a blue snowball and never worry about your mic again

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

kalstrams posted:

Morrowind is completionist's nightmare.

Oh. Bummer. :(

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




hubris.height posted:

just get a blue snowball and never worry about your mic again
Neumann u87 is nice too.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Bicyclops posted:

Oh. Bummer. :(
Yo be clear, it's just the amounts of stuff, not something else. Since I'm not a completionist, I find that to be a nightmare.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

kalstrams posted:

Yo be clear, it's just the amounts of stuff, not something else. Since I'm not a completionist, I find that to be a nightmare.

Oh okay. Amount of stuff I can handle.

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
someone explain CHIM

GreenLight
Apr 5, 2014

Can I keep his head for a souvenir ?
My Oblivion experience consisted of going to the main city, fighting in the arena until you got the shiny gear. Then mowed through some dungeon and got bored very quick.

I think i did it wrong.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Excels posted:

someone explain CHIM
People who are powerful enough have in-world access to the Construction Set.

THE PENETRATOR
Jul 27, 2014

by Lowtax
chim = lucid dreaming except you're the dream

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

THE PENETRATOR posted:

chim = lucid dreaming except you're the dream

THE PENETRATOR
Jul 27, 2014

by Lowtax
chim is like when you go on vine and you see a vine you like and then instead of revining it you get out your 2nd phone and make a vine of you watching the vine: epic

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

all the elder scrolls games are bad play new vegas instead :angel:

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Problem Sleuth posted:

just because it has a "point" doesn't mean it doesn't blow rear end

because far cry 3's story sucks and is also pretty racist

I THINK YOU'LL FIND IT'S YOU WHO ARE THE RACIST :smug:

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

StashAugustine posted:

all the elder scrolls games are bad play new vegas instead :angel:

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
Speaking of bad elder scrolls games, all boxed copies of elder scrolls online have been pulled from australian stores. This is only done if it goes free to play. If it was a new version, they would just drop the price.

Porting to console is still a myth and they want two more systems released before they release the ports.

They also removed six month subs from the game which is generally a sign that free to play is coming in about six months.

This will be a riot when it finally goes f2p.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

The online game is the only one I intend never to play.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




THE PENETRATOR posted:

chim = lucid dreaming except you're the dream

THE PENETRATOR posted:

chim is like when you go on vine and you see a vine you like and then instead of revining it you get out your 2nd phone and make a vine of you watching the vine: epic
:catdrugs:

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




QA question for people that know how games are made:

who are the people that test AAA games (my only impression is from the movie grandma's boy)?
My first guess would be sweatshop workers in the third world or no one at all in the case of some publishers.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Real hurthling! posted:

QA question for people that know how games are made:

who are the people that test AAA games (my only impression is from the movie grandma's boy)?
My first guess would be sweatshop workers in the third world or no one at all in the case of some publishers.

I think a good chunk of them are guys in their late teens, early 20's. It pays very little and they treat you like poo poo.. The webcomic "The Trenches" would publish anonymous reports from game testers.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Real hurthling! posted:

QA question for people that know how games are made:

who are the people that test AAA games (my only impression is from the movie grandma's boy)?
My first guess would be sweatshop workers in the third world or no one at all in the case of some publishers.
Ideal scenario is professional game testers (if we talk about core gameplay). You are looking at someone who has decent understanding of how programming works and who has enormous "gamer cred", as silly as it sounds. These are guys who check gameplay and how things blend into it. Sounds, text and other things are checked individually by proofreaders, prooflisteners and so on.

The problem is, you have to pay specialists what specialists deserve, so you end up with something of a likes of milklip tech support clerk, who spends his evenings by sexting his lol opponents with "lmao dat cuck i gave u fag", doing one playthrough, maybe to, and writing a bug report that is a mix of my granfather's shopping list and my grandmother's last wish.

Third testing group - developers, friends, and family - is a massive circlejerk almost always. Even if the people are nice, it is not easy for everyone to flip a switch and to attempt to dump a massive poo poo, with nut pieces stuck in it, on something you have spent so much effort (or time, at least).

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Real hurthling! posted:

QA question for people that know how games are made:

who are the people that test AAA games (my only impression is from the movie grandma's boy)?
My first guess would be sweatshop workers in the third world or no one at all in the case of some publishers.

Your standard QA guy has no qualifications, just any guy you'd see working at Chipotle or whatever. A buddy of mine actually started as a lowly QA guy and worked up to producer at a well known studio but I understand that to be an exception. He had no prior experience in any tech oriented job and has no experience coding or anything that would make him especially suited to QA software.

There's also computerized testing of games, so places will employ engineers to create tools that can execute certain kinds of tests.

HyperHopper
Aug 12, 2011

The Diggle Commandos need you! Are you brave enough to join the Diggle Commandos?

kalstrams posted:

State your budget and needs/goals.

Just for gaming, don't need production quality sound, just something that wont break and break eardrums. cheapest that fits that requirement I guess. 30 bucks seems reasonable for that.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




HyperHopper posted:

Just for gaming, don't need production quality sound, just something that wont break and break eardrums. cheapest that fits that requirement I guess. 30 bucks seems reasonable for that.
Different situation, but nothing really changes.

kalstrams posted:

There isn't really anything in sub-$20 that would have both USB connectivity and some superior quality. My suggestion would be just to get another cheap 3.5mm microphone, something like this, and maybe save up for a decent USB mic (around $50) some year or two down the road, if the issue proves to be with 3.5mm slot or if better quality is needed.

Here's some guy talking into mic I linked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijk2rQwT-aE&t=218s

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica

Skwirl posted:

The webcomic "The Trenches"

I would be p. mad to win a reality show about webcomics only to have the "prize" be drawing a comic for the Penny Arcade guys under their names.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Sleeveless posted:

I would be p. mad to win a reality show about webcomics only to have the "prize" be drawing a comic for the Penny Arcade guys under their names.

That's not what the prize of their reality series was.

Excels
Mar 7, 2012

Your plastic pal who's fun to be with!
i think that was the funniest thing about The Tester series, that your prize for having roaches dumped on you and frantically completing arbitrary menial tasks, was a job at sony to QA their games.

people think they will get to play elder scrolls 6 before anyone else or something, and then find out you have to play the mountain of white-noise licensed garbage games that are riddled with bugs you then have to record to get paid

Buck Turgidson
Feb 6, 2011

𓀬𓀠𓀟𓀡𓀢𓀣𓀤𓀥𓀞𓀬

Bicyclops posted:

Hi, chat thread. I've been playing Oblivion lately. I'm using the AF leveling, Darnified UI, Unofficial Patches and House Map Markers mods. I enjoyed Shivering Isles, which I never played, and will probably like Knights of Nine, once I finish the Dark Brotherhood and can afford to get rid of my infamy. I think after this I might play Morrowind, but I imagine it'd have to be heavily modded for people who started on Oblivion to enjoy it? I dunno. I like the Elder Scrolls games.

You don't need mods but you should install the Morrowind Code Patch, it fixes a lot of nasty bugs. I think the Code Patch lets you change other stuff in the install menu but you should ignore most of it and use the default settings.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Final Fantasy 13 is actually cool and good.

THE PENETRATOR
Jul 27, 2014

by Lowtax
chim is like when you play final fantasy with lightning (a character named lightning, not plasma) and you want it to be good so hard that you will it into your posts and turn into a retard

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Fergus Mac Roich posted:

There's also computerized testing of games, so places will employ engineers to create tools that can execute certain kinds of tests.
Yeah, developers typically set up "smoke tests", or ways to make the game play itself to some extent for hours on end in the wee hours while everybody's gone home. That way, when people come back into work, they have a pile of crash logs and recordings so they can see how these tests crashed the game.

These have gotten more refined and polished over time - Halo 2's smoke tests essentially just created or joined matchmaking games then mashed all the buttons while in-game so the player would run around in circles firing and throwing grenades, while Bayonetta 2 has a detailed scripting system that plots out a path for an AI to take through all the levels, allowing a spare PC or devkit to beat the game over and over and over again to try and find bugs through pure attrition.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 14 days!
i dunno if its still like this but a lot of the guys doing QA would be given a small area of the game to attempt to break as well, i.e. trying to find ways up onto scenery, out of bounds and whatever

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

Excels posted:

someone explain CHIM

I AM AND I ARE ALL WE

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

I legit didn't know CHIM was an Elder Scrolls term, having only played IV and V, until this thread.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Bicyclops posted:

I legit didn't know CHIM was an Elder Scrolls term, having only played IV and V, until this thread.

Virtually nobody who played 3 knows it either because it's only for ultra spergs who read in-character posts from developers on forums.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

Fergus Mac Roich posted:

Virtually nobody who played 3 knows it either because it's only for ultra spergs who read in-character posts from developers on forums.

I'm thankful for those people though, because, despite making the mod community embarrassing, they've made it really easy to have an in depth encyclopedia that includes the in-game schedules for like every NPC when I need to find them, and bug fixes for every quest. Thanks, UESP.

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exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Video games in general would be a lot more frustrating for me if there were not so many people out there willing to endlessly catalogue minutae for every quest of every game imaginable. Thank you, autism spectrum, for all your help over the years.

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