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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
A election night meet isn't happening, I think a handful of key goons will be overseas which is why it happened earlier.

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I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
I'll have my own election night party, with blackjack and hookers.

Nuclear Spy
Jun 10, 2008

feeling under?
Catching up on this thread...

Chicken Parmigiana posted:

Minor sorries also to everyone reading through my shitposts in the morning.
Please drunkpost more often, I enjoyed this as well as your Japan effortpost. I'll be heading to Shinjuku and Myoko next month, which will be a few weeks of attempting to avoid reading anything AusPol.

CrazyTolradi posted:

As someone who has been both a witness to domestic abuse and on the receiving end of domestic abuse, I really feel that stupid general comments detract from the seriousness of the issue and, at the very least, trivialise it.
Well done for sharing your stories and being incredibly level-headed throughout this discussion which could have taken a much worse turn.

Fruity Gordo posted:

:words:

BlitzkriegOfColour posted:

:words:
Consider both of you incredibly lucky after your initial posts, if it wasn't for being someone's 'favourite poster' I'm not sure kind of reaction they would have elicited.

starkebn posted:

Reading 'does not discriminate' means to me 'can happen to anyone'.
Googling 'discriminate' reveals the following meanings:
1. recognize a distinction; differentiate.
2. make an unjust or prejudicial distinction in the treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, sex, or age.

I hope people are able to discriminate the two definitions of this word, but reading the initial Facebook post - doing an M. Night Shyamalan reveal that the attacker is a female, it could have been framed in a much better way.

Turks posted:

It IS lovely that women have to try and deliver their message of "Stop being arseholes, guys" in a way that doesn't offend the arseholes, but if you don't do it then the assholes will use it as an excuse to keep being assholes. So many left leaning movements fail utterly because they are unwilling to compromise in effective ways. You need to bring people incrementally over, demanding it happens all at once only ensures it will never happen. The environmental movement is having exactly the same problem.
I think I understand what you are saying but I would say left-leaning movements attempts to change someone's mind tend to fail because they don't actively encourage open dialogue and discussion of ideas, often pushing others away and galvanising each side's opinion of the other - this is where I would say 'change from within' is the right way to go.

markgreyam posted:

I'm going to stare at you intently and not say anything. I'm just a lurker here anyway. I will touch you though, I want to touch another goon.
If that's what it takes you to graduate from lurker-level, then I won't refuse to provide that goon touch.

trunkh posted:

In the past week alone I've been petitioned outside the supermarket, door knocked by the shallow premier and participated in what I think was a badly designed liberal survey (all talking point questions with binary options between parties, non neutral options on questions that probably should be on a likert scale).

Vladimir Poutine posted:

Labor already have a majority in SA, so it's not that.
I am keen to organise an Adelaide Goonmeet when I'm back from leave, either late Feb or early March. I already know of two Goons who are moving out of our fine state so it would be nice to make an attempt to have a Goonmeet that rivals those of QLD, or not just me eating at *insert chicken-based restaurant*.

Halo14
Sep 11, 2001

iajanus posted:

The video is wonderful and shows the quality of the MP involved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=093UhTuZmPA

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
I love my state election but still no polls. I'm going crazy here.

RC Bandit
Sep 7, 2012

Hanson: It's Time

Grimey Drawer
You know what's discriminating about domestic violence? Domestic violence statistics.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Jumpingmanjim posted:

I'll have my own election night party, with blackjack and hookers.

Please take care. If your hookers arrive on motorcycles in groups of more than 2 you could be in a lot of trouble with the police for this.

The Before Times
Mar 8, 2014

Once upon a time, I would have thrown you halfway to the moon for a crack like that.

Jumpingmanjim posted:

I'll have my own election night party, with blackjack and hookers.

I'm sure a few gewns would be willing to just have drinks and chill on election night.

Brayds2006
Aug 21, 2011

Anidav posted:

I love my state election but still no polls. I'm going crazy here.

ReachTEL's out:

https://twitter.com/GhostWhoVotes/status/557813206534873088

quote:

#ReachTEL Poll QLD State 2 Party Preferred: LNP 52 (+2) ALP 48 (-2) #qldvotes #auspol

I think the phrase rhymes with Clucking Bell.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
What an odd state we live in.

Jonah Galtberg
Feb 11, 2009

Anidav posted:

What an odd state we live in.

hosed?

Brayds2006
Aug 21, 2011

Anidav posted:

What an odd state we live in.

Tell me about it, I moved up here this week too. I was hoping for a change of government by the time I settled in. So much for that.

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-21/png-contradicts-dutton-on-weapons-in-manus-standoff/6032066

quote:

Papua New Guinea's government says weapons were not used by asylum seekers during a standoff with guards at the Manus Island detention centre on Monday, contradicting comments from Australia's Immigration Minister.

Peter Dutton yesterday told the ABC's 7:30 program asylum seekers were armed with makeshift weapons when security guards forced entry into Delta compound to end a three-day blockade.

"Some transferrers, as I'm advised, had fashioned weapons or there was the suggestion of that," he said.

He later added: "I think it's important to point out that we're not talking about firearms, for example; we're talking about homemade or home-fashioned weapons."

However, a PNG government spokesman has told the ABC asylum seekers did not use weapons during the intervention on Monday.

The spokesman said police had found "weapons" during a later search of Delta compound, but was waiting for further information about what was found.

There have been conflicting accounts about the level of force used to end the blockade of Delta compound.

Asylum seekers and Australia-based refugee advocates say guards beat the detainees and dragged them on the ground.

The ABC has seen a photograph of a man with a bruised face and nose, who says he was beaten and is now in Lorengau provincial prison.

Mr Dutton said there had been "some physical confrontation" between guards and asylum seekers.

"There would have been some physical confrontation, for example, but I think the fact that it was over within a relatively short period of time and the police who were on standby didn't see a need to intervene would suggest that, I think, that the operation was carried out successfully," he said.

The PNG government spokesman said some asylum seekers were restrained for shouting or not following directions. He said there were no serious injuries.

Protests and hunger strikes continue at the Australian-run centre.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Anidav posted:

What an odd state we live in.

-2 swing directly attributed to you not handing out ALP leaflets

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

cpaf posted:

-2 swing directly attributed to you not handing out ALP leaflets

Can I really live with myself anymore?

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

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Romeo Charlie posted:

You know what's discriminating about domestic violence? Domestic violence statistics.


As a scientist I am a big fan of statistics, but not so much when it's over a three year period and then the next period records a 15% drop, implying high variability.

e; wait, better yet. 38% of domestic homicide victims over a 3 year period and then 33% of domestic violence victims, implying that domestic homicide has dropped more than that.

wat

ee; and then they throw in non-domestic violence statistics as well just to bulk it out

eee; also, 68k->119k is not a 175% rise, it's a 75% rise. Likewise for the 140%.

I fully agree that more needs to be done to encourage male victims of domestic violence to come forward and the perpetrators to be caught, but that infographic is horribly bad. It basically looks like it was written by an idiot.

eeee; actually, the site that it's from also has links to MRA groups :kiddo:

Murodese fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Jan 21, 2015

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak

Brayds2006 posted:

ReachTEL's out:

https://twitter.com/GhostWhoVotes/status/557813206534873088


I think the phrase rhymes with Clucking Bell.

I legitimately wonder what Australian federal politics would be like if QLD were an independent country. Socialist paradise, I expect.

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin
Nah, WA and NSW still exist

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak

Quantum Mechanic posted:

Nah, WA and NSW still exist

Does Western Australia really exist? I've only ever seen it on maps, and the only people I know who claim to live there are internet people.

Maybe WA is actually just a huge hoax, allowing the liberals to commit election fraud and test nuclear superweapons where nobody is looking :tinfoil:

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug
We're trying our hardest to dig WA out of the ground so the ocean can reclaim it.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Can confirm WA is a bad dream.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Senior ministers Julie Bishop and Greg Hunt reject suggestions Tony Abbott now 'toxic'
By political reporter James Bennett

MAP: Australia
Foreign Minister Julie Bishop and Environment Minister Greg Hunt have both denied reports of backbench frustration with Prime Minister Tony Abbott's leadership.

The ABC understands there is disquiet amongst Coalition MPs, worried about the Prime Minister's support amongst voters.

Some have even used the word "toxic" to describe his standing in the electorate.

Speaking from the United States, Ms Bishop said she did not believe that to be the case.

"I don't believe that's a description that any of my colleagues would apply to the Prime Minister," she said.

"That's not a term that they use with me.

"The Prime Minister is leading a strong team."

Mr Hunt also dismissed the "toxic" claims, saying he "hadn't heard that".

The Government has this week been forced to deal with reports of Cabinet disagreement between Mr Abbott and senior ministers over contentious cuts to some Medicare rebates, which were dumped last week.

The Government says the decision to drop the $20 cut to rebates for short consultations with a doctor was a unanimous one, made following "vigorous" discussion.

Mr Abbott yesterday denied that he had made a "captain's call" on introducing the proposed cut to the Medicare rebate late last year.

It must suck being a journalist in Canberra, knowing exactly who is talking poo poo about who behind their back, but not being able to print it.

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

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We already know who it was: Hockey and Dutton.

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Brayds2006 posted:

ReachTEL's out:

https://twitter.com/GhostWhoVotes/status/557813206534873088


I think the phrase rhymes with Clucking Bell.

It's only ReachTEL.

Pollytics has just posted this pendulum using public and party polling

http://www.abc.net.au/news/qld-election-2015/calculator/?mode=overall&overall=11.5&retiringmps=false&mary=ind

ALP 42 seats, LNP 41 seats. 6 IND.

RC Bandit
Sep 7, 2012

Hanson: It's Time

Grimey Drawer

Murodese posted:

eeee; actually, the site that it's from also has links to MRA groups :kiddo:
Well poo poo, scrubbing that crap off my imgur account.

homebrew
Mar 13, 2007

Needs more (safer) beer.

Anidav posted:

Oh...okay. :smith:

Edit
Together Union put out a funny spoof of the LNPs canoe ad.
http://youtu.be/YN1uiFlqpkE

After Mr Johnston's efforts late last year I would have thought that anyone in the LNP even mentioning a canoe would have been made instantly persona non grata.

homebrew
Mar 13, 2007

Needs more (safer) beer.

Jumpingmanjim posted:




It must suck being a journalist in Canberra, knowing exactly who is talking poo poo about who behind their back, but not being able to print it.

A foreign minister publicly defending an unpopular PM publicly while over in the United States.

I feel that we have heard this one before.....

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil

homebrew posted:

I feel that we have heard this one before.....

Don't jinx it

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

V for Vegas posted:

It's only ReachTEL.

Pollytics has just posted this pendulum using public and party polling

http://www.abc.net.au/news/qld-election-2015/calculator/?mode=overall&overall=11.5&retiringmps=false&mary=ind

ALP 42 seats, LNP 41 seats. 6 IND.

6?!

Turks
Nov 16, 2006

Fingers crossed so loving hard right now for a hung parliament.

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"

Turks posted:

Fingers crossed so loving hard right now for a hung parliament.

You mean they might have to negotiate and use some diplomacy and thinking skills to get anything done?

Turks
Nov 16, 2006

starkebn posted:

You mean they might have to negotiate and use some diplomacy and thinking skills to get anything done?

If that's what it takes to get things done then I guess nothing will get done.

Still an improvement IMO.

G-Spot Run
Jun 28, 2005
The true value of representational democracy is when it represents me steamrolling whatever the gently caress I want

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

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I hope the ALP win if only for the Courier Mail headline, jesus. It would be a sight to behold.

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!

Murodese posted:

I hope the ALP win if only for the Courier Mail headline, jesus. It would be a sight to behold.

"THE FALL OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION"
*crude caricatures of ALP leadership in turbans, loincloths, traditional aboriginal costume, etc, holding burning torches and foaming at the mouth as they burn cities to the ground with a giant hammer and sickle blotting out the sun*

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

The Guardian is reporting that Federal Government Agencies are reporting journalists who ask too much about asylum seekers to the Federal Police. The agencies are hoping that the Federal Police can lean on the journalists to find where the leaks or who the whistleblowers are.

What a bunch of fucks, no matter how low you think the Government can get, they do their best to surprise you.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

You Am I posted:

The Guardian is reporting that Federal Government Agencies are reporting journalists who ask too much about asylum seekers to the Federal Police. The agencies are hoping that the Federal Police can lean on the journalists to find where the leaks or who the whistleblowers are.

What a bunch of fucks, no matter how low you think the Government can get, they do their best to surprise you.

The Guardian posted:

Almost every referral made to the AFP by federal government agencies “for unauthorised disclosure of commonwealth information” since the Coalition took office in September 2013 has been directly related to immigration reporting by journalists.

Death by guillotine

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
So where do we stand now on the Freedom of press index?

Nutsak
Jul 21, 2005
All balls.

iajanus posted:

The video is wonderful and shows the quality of the MP involved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=093UhTuZmPA

I want someone to blend it with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWjeITmDmmo

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V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

That includes 2 KAP and 3 seats that have been IND for yonks.

Even the ReachTel poll of 52/48 to the LNP gives a hung parliament. Dis gon' be good.

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