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Sour Diesel posted:Just wait until I finish mine. It's Brady and Belichick in the Mass Effect universe and it's going to loving rule. Which one is Sovereign and which one is Harbinger?
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The Nards Pan posted:Over inflated. You Mother Fucker. You Son of a Bitch.
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when the losing QB is saying ballghazi is blown out of proportion, it's time to put that poo poo to bed http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2015/01/22/andrew-luck-deflategate-controversy-blown-out-of-proportion/
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Kilonum posted:when the losing QB is saying ballghazi is blown out of proportion, it's time to put that poo poo to bed http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2015/01/22/andrew-luck-deflategate-controversy-blown-out-of-proportion/ Maybe he's in on it.
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Jan 22, 2015 08:12
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This owns hard and I'm thankful for it.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Which one is Sovereign and which one is Harbinger? We've reached pick goon here.
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Vertical Lime posted:Olbermann on #ballghazi I don't think you can justify using rule 17, given the facts. There's basically no way you can argue that this had a major effect on the game. It's cheating, and possibly unfair, but a half of football was played with, presumably, regulation balls, and the Patriots did better in the second half. I mean, I guess it's also possible that the same refs who didn't notice 2 psi missing in the first half just continued to use Patriots balls, but at that point, you really have to come down on the refs too.
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Kilonum posted:when the losing QB is saying ballghazi is blown out of proportion, it's time to put that poo poo to bed http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2015/01/22/andrew-luck-deflategate-controversy-blown-out-of-proportion/ It should be blown out of proportion. You have the AFC champs getting caught using balls that don't fit regulation in the AFC championship game. In no other professional sport or competitive activity would the results of the match be allowed. In most things it would simply have been a forfeiture of the game. In some cases the the opponents would be asked if they want to accept the forfeit or replay the game. The few things that fans of the game can do is stop supporting the organizations involved and criticize and tarnish those complicit in the cheating. Yes, I am aware that over half the NFL players probably take PEDs and other teams may use similar tactics. Not to long ago we had baseball players giving sworn testimony infront of congressmen because of PED use. Yet, 3 days after this incident we need to move on? Cmon man. The docking of draft picks does nothing to a team who garners much of their talent from free agent acquisitions. Kill cap space and offer incentives to those who expose cheating, see how that works as a deterrent. This is assuming the NFL can and or will properly investigate and can confirm conspiracy/cheating. This is operant conditioning. Giving incentives to behaviors that you want to see repeated and negative reinforcements to behaviors that you don't want repeated. The NFL already does half of this with its fine system. The other (most effective) half isn't done.
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What happens if the NFL comes out and says "everything was fine, the ESPN leaks were false." ? I mean, the Boston Herald report about the taping was false too, so who knows. GaussianCopula fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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Jan 22, 2015 08:51
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GaussianCopula posted:What happens if the NFL comes out and says "everything was fine, the ESPN leaks were false." ? Everyone will still hate the Patriots and Bill Belichick still won't give a poo poo and Goodell will still have a job.
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wasianchickn posted:Everyone will still hate the Patriots and Bill Belichick still won't give a poo poo and Goodell will still have a job. Also no one in the world outside of Boston would believe the NFL's statement. Not saying that would be a particularly big deal, just something old fans will still be complaining about in 10 years.
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pyromance posted:I don't think you can justify using rule 17, given the facts. There's basically no way you can argue that this had a major effect on the game. It's cheating, and possibly unfair, but a half of football was played with, presumably, regulation balls, and the Patriots did better in the second half. It had an unknown effect on the game. There is no way to know what effect it had on this specific game. You can't take a results oriented approach of 'patriots did even better with properly inflated footballs' because then the line of reasoning "they would have won anyway so it doesn't matter' falls in the category. The point isn't the result of the action's its the intended effect of the action in concordance with the rules. The tiniest thing can significantly alter the outcome of the game. Football is a game with alot of variance and they play the fewest amount of games. One field goal can alter the entire course of a season, the entire path of a career the entire legacy of an organization. This is why teams fight for the tiniest of edges in football and even basketball. Home field advantage in the NFL is an estimated 4-7% advantage. Lets say a doctored ball gives me a 5% win probability percentage. You are robbing me a game out of every 20. That's a pretty big effect. pkay fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Jan 22, 2015 |
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GaussianCopula posted:What happens if the NFL comes out and says "everything was fine, the ESPN leaks were false." ? The show goes on?
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You kind of also have to take into account that things like defensive adjustments that the Colts made at half time don't occur in a void. They are reactionary to events that occurred in the first half.
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If the pats were using footballs that were easier to catch in the first half, why were there so many drops? Answer me that!
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ComfortablyNumb posted:If the pats were using footballs that were easier to catch in the first half, why were there so many drops? Answer me that! It's also easier to intercept!
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Good morning everybody
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Jan 22, 2015 14:07
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I think a pretty reasonable punishment is to strip the Patriots of all past and future SB wins
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Jan 22, 2015 14:16
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GaussianCopula posted:What happens if the NFL comes out and says "everything was fine, the ESPN leaks were false." ? There will be a huge bloodbath in sports media, and at the very least it'll be interesting to watch.
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Jan 22, 2015 14:28
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For Uggs sake, is something going to happen today?
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Jan 22, 2015 14:30
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Latest ballsip is the Ravens tipped the Colts off on deflated balls. I think Flacco has been screwed out of Flacco time and this type of crime must be punished. Ravens must win all the superbowls.
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Jan 22, 2015 14:30
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This is completely uncalled for. How the gently caress you gonna pick on Vince? Seriously mad about this. Wilfork owns. And is cool as gently caress.
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Jan 22, 2015 14:34
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Genocide Tendency posted:This is completely uncalled for. ...it's The Onion.
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Jan 22, 2015 14:36
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Genocide Tendency posted:This is completely uncalled for. hahaha look at this right here GNU Order posted:I think a pretty reasonable punishment is to strip the Patriots of all past and future SB wins the only fair choice
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Jan 22, 2015 14:40
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Ehud posted:...it's The Onion. Still not right. 
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Genocide Tendency posted:Still not right. remember when I said the most obnoxious thing about Pats fans is their complete inability to take a joke at their expense? Do some soul-searching dog.
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Speaking of which, Pats fan coworker announced on FB today that he unfriended everyone who was making fun of the Patriots. Also he called in sick today.
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Ehud posted:Speaking of which, Pats fan coworker announced on FB today that he unfriended everyone who was making fun of the Patriots. Jesus that must be fun to watch.
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Jan 22, 2015 14:51
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Vince Wilfork is my dad so please quit teasing.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:remember when I said the most obnoxious thing about Pats fans is their complete inability to take a joke at their expense? 
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Jan 22, 2015 15:04
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Ehud posted:Speaking of which, Pats fan coworker announced on FB today that he unfriended everyone who was making fun of the Patriots. I support making fun of this person.
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redshirt posted:Belichick presser starts at 9:30 EST. That gonna be streamed anywhere? I'm in a dumb, bad place with only internet.
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redshirt posted:Belichick presser starts at 9:30 EST. "We're focused on Seattle" x a billion
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Ehud posted:Speaking of which, Pats fan coworker announced on FB today that he unfriended everyone who was making fun of the Patriots. Email him relentlessly. Also tape the word Ballghazi on his mouse sensor.
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redshirt posted:Belichick presser starts at 9:30 EST. "Cooperating with the league" "Gonna have to ask the league"
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WugLyfe posted:That gonna be streamed anywhere? I'm in a dumb, bad place with only internet. Click me!
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WugLyfe posted:That gonna be streamed anywhere? I'm in a dumb, bad place with only internet. why would you want to watch someone stonewall who has 14 years of practice at it?
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