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I was actually talking about the old wc3 custom map, not the new engine, and the bkb back then didn't have diminishing returns. It was an example of improvement in game design. Taking something that was expensive but basically invalidated huge amounts of characters encouraged gameplay that was mostly farm, farm farm, kill the whole team with zero threat to me and touch myself. I like that smite has managed to move away from copying an old wc3 custom map as strictly as possible, it is something most other games in the genre have trouble doing. That was the entire point of the post. Change can be good!
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I dont really want to derail the thread alot more but Dota has changed alot since the old wc3 custom map. From playing both games farm (at least to me) seems to have the same impact in both games.
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Jan 23, 2015 12:33
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If nobody has had a chance to play the new Conquest map on PTS (or if you're lazy like me), this is a good read: PROFESSOR PROXY – EPISODE 12: EXPLORING CONQUEST IN SEASON 2 proxydamage posted:#1 – Wave clear is losing value. It’s no longer efficient to simply push the enemy under the tower. In fact, you want to avoid it, as doing so gives them a generally safe, if less efficient, way to farm. It’ll still be an advantage to be able to wave clear efficiently if needed (minions still hurt a lot early game), but no longer a requirement.
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Jan 23, 2015 15:00
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Nasgate posted:The only problem here is that other consumables wouldn't be as good, so everyone on the team would be placing wards. So they'd have to do something like limit the amount of placeable wards for the whole team. Which could also make de-warding actually purposeful. They could limit the number of Eyes that could be bought by the team in that case, or find some way to make it only purchasable if you have Watcher's Gift also.
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Jan 23, 2015 17:22
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Is there a patch notes stream today? I could have sworn I read somewhere that today would be patch notes, with items preview, class nerfs, and PTS would go up later tonight?
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Jan 23, 2015 17:22
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Yes. 4:00 PM EST http://twitch.tv/smitegame Just list of changes coming to PTS. edit- With changes to PTS this weekend I believe. cyclonic fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Jan 23, 2015 |
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Jan 23, 2015 17:39
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Got this game maybe like 2 weeks ago. I don't play it much in favor of league, but I at least log on everyday to get the bonus. Bought my first God, Apollo, because he looked like a cool bro. I'm impressed. He's like the broest character I've ever seen in video game. Like if anyone ever asked, "which fictional character would you rather have a beer with?" I'd def pick him.
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Jan 23, 2015 19:22
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Safety Scissors posted:Got this game maybe like 2 weeks ago. I don't play it much in favor of league, but I at least log on everyday to get the bonus. Bought my first God, Apollo, because he looked like a cool bro. I'm impressed. He's like the broest character I've ever seen in video game. Like if anyone ever asked, "which fictional character would you rather have a beer with?" I'd def pick him. Someone link this guy those live action skits they do.
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Jan 23, 2015 19:27
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Safety Scissors posted:Got this game maybe like 2 weeks ago. I don't play it much in favor of league, but I at least log on everyday to get the bonus. Bought my first God, Apollo, because he looked like a cool bro. I'm impressed. He's like the broest character I've ever seen in video game. Like if anyone ever asked, "which fictional character would you rather have a beer with?" I'd def pick him. I'd pick Bacchus. He seems like he'd be pretty cool to hang out with.
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Jan 23, 2015 20:54
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Is the Greek god Priapus going to be included in a future patch?
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Jan 23, 2015 20:58
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Obstacle2 posted:Is the Greek god Priapus going to be included in a future patch? He can be like Hercules only he hits people with his giant boner instead of a club.
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Jan 23, 2015 21:01
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PTS notes here. edit- (Found official HiRez notes) cyclonic fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Jan 24, 2015 |
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Jan 23, 2015 23:00
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Pretty much every change that they mentioned is good, except I think they may be over-nerfing Qin's with not giving it a price decrease. The new starter items will be weird too. And supports are going to have more gold issues, probably.
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Jan 23, 2015 23:03
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Thought this was interesting. Kotaku posted a poll asking people's favorite MOBA. Right now Smite is a runaway winner with 53% of the vote. LoL is #2 with 23% http://kotaku.com/whats-your-favorite-moba-1681406463 Grain of salt, etc
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Jan 23, 2015 23:37
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Syrinxx posted:Thought this was interesting. Kotaku posted a poll asking people's favorite MOBA. Right now Smite is a runaway winner with 53% of the vote. LoL is #2 with 23% I feel kinda bad for the 12 guys that said Demigod. They must just be eternally playing against one another.
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Jan 23, 2015 23:39
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I've played this game for over 2 years, so I'm ashamed to admit this, but I don't know what Leash or leashing means.
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Jan 24, 2015 00:45
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Squashy Nipples posted:I've played this game for over 2 years, so I'm ashamed to admit this, but I don't know what Leash or leashing means. Pulling a jungle camp until it turns around and goes back to its default spot.
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Jan 24, 2015 00:49
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Holy poo poo. Those starter items are going to be horrifying to lane against.
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Jan 24, 2015 01:08
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Squashy Nipples posted:I've played this game for over 2 years, so I'm ashamed to admit this, but I don't know what Leash or leashing means. The current-and-soon-to-be-outdated "safe" method to clear jungle creeps is to "pull" them to the edge of their camp. You generally pull them to a side where it's least likely an invade will come from (ie- your "map side" of the GF camp). The reason being if you actually get invaded and need to bail, you can move 5 feet back and the creep resets to full health and returns to their default positioning. The invader now has to clear the entire creep camp from 100% health if they want to steal it, so it usually ends in stalemate or whoever has the superior numbers usually claim it. With the Season 2 change, if you do this the creep wave will run back but instead of going immediately back to full health, they slowly regen health back, which rewards invading because it's now easier to steal. The jungle is going to be crazy hostile now. People think we're in an "assassin meta" - oh just you wait. Also my thoughts on these notes: More itemization is always a buff to warriors. Guan Yu has some good item choices, and LOL Urchin & new Spirit Robe will be all the defensive items you'll ever need as a warrior. Penetration off boots is big. RIP sovereignty. Welcome back, speed boots.
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I wonder if the HP5 on Heartward and new Sovreignity will stack. That will make Assault... Different.
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Jan 24, 2015 02:36
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New Poseidon skin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZn_vEfFCWQ What's interesting is the new Neith skin teased in that video. Dataminers dug this up:   Dataminers digging into PTS right now. They're teasing Medusa as possible next goddess but who knows, they might be jerking us around. It's Bellona, Roman goddess of war (with Medusa on her shield). Wiki article here. cyclonic fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Jan 24, 2015 |
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Jan 24, 2015 04:51
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cyclonic posted:The jungle is going to be crazy hostile now. People think we're in an "assassin meta" - oh just you wait. It honestly feels like they're trying to reintroduce the 2-1-2 meta. Derp, it's called Carnival Neith in the loving notes. ~.~ syriquez fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Jan 24, 2015 |
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Jan 24, 2015 16:21
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I like the idea of them removing the pen from boots, so there's more of a choice. But with doing that I really think they should add some more magic pen items, as it was the vast majority of mages only ever got boots and Obsidian Shard for pen, now they'll be losing a sizable chunk of it. Also it basically just changed the clearly superior item from pen boots to CDR boots except for a few gods which will want one of the others.
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Jan 24, 2015 22:53
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Is Wednesday then the patch day?
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Jan 25, 2015 04:38
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Dvlos posted:Is Wednesday then the patch day? The way they were talking I don't think the stuff in the patch notes preview is going to be up this week.
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Mr.Unique-Name posted:The way they were talking I don't think the stuff in the patch notes preview is going to be up this week. That's why I'm asking they sort of acted like there was more changes coming - but I wasn't sure if they were going to keep pts'ing these changes. Might as well release what's working first?
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Dvlos posted:That's why I'm asking they sort of acted like there was more changes coming - but I wasn't sure if they were going to keep pts'ing these changes. From what I've seen in streams calling it "working" is being kind of generous. A couple of the actives don't seem to have their effects at all and I'm pretty sure the art in the new map is still in flux. The fact that they kept giving the disclaimer "THIS IS NOT FINAL!!" makes me think they don't intend to release anything this week. I could be wrong though.
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Season 2 was apparently pushed to February 11 this time, so it might very well mean that no updates until then. Or new god comes out between, with kit made for new map.
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There's still some changes they want to role out. HiRez teased nerfing healers but nothing is in the PTS yet. There's also some polishing that needs to get done - the UI is a little clunky (chat window is small, it defaults to unintuitive menu tabs), map needs to get tweaked (jungle creeps are behaving weird) and some new items don't have the correct tooltips (not to mention some items really need to get balanced). Any "patch notes" most likely are for the PTS and we probably won't see many changes in the actual game client until the PTS stuff is ironed out. There's some big changes coming and they're asking for player feedback with the PTS. But then again, HiRez surprised us with Hou Yi... edit- Guide to winning every game on PTS as a Jungler: NEW ITEM IS BROKEN cyclonic fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jan 25, 2015 |
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I'm thinking of trying out Smite for a few days but just in case I end up staying forever would any goon who's gunning for that Sock Puppet thing like to refer me as their bestest friend?
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I like Tyr: https://account.hirezstudios.com/smitegame/default.aspx?referral=463384&utm_campaign=email and very slowly leveling a smurf; would help a bit.
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Season 2 PTS #2 - Item Feedbackquote:Briefly describe what you would change about the current Manikin's Scepter. Everything.
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cyclonic posted:Season 2 PTS #2 - Item Feedback Yeah, all the other starter items seem fine but Manikin has some issues and they should just remove it. If people want an slow on auto attacks early they can pay up for a heavy hammer. I'm also really concerned about pen being harder to come by now. Is it even possible to max magic pen without pen boots?
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Mr.Unique-Name posted:Is it even possible to max magic pen without pen boots? Flat magical penetration? It's not even possible now. The highest you can get is 45 from boots, Spear, and the cheap helmet. You can get a lot of reduction effects compared to physical though, with Spear being 20+20% reduction, Demonic at 21% reduction, and Void Stone at another 15 reduction. To be honest, I think that's kind of their goal. Penetration was too easy to maximize and contributed to the "victory by 15 minutes" issue they're clearly trying to eliminate.
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syriquez posted:Flat magical penetration? It's not even possible now. The highest you can get is 45 from boots, Spear, and the cheap helmet. You can get a lot of reduction effects compared to physical though, with Spear being 20+20% reduction, Demonic at 21% reduction, and Void Stone at another 15 reduction. That's true, but at the same time tanks are going to start being kind of stupid now.
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Mr.Unique-Name posted:That's true, but at the same time tanks are going to start being kind of stupid now. This is somewhat curbed by tank itemization being much, much more varied. No more Watcher's->Midas->Sovereignty guaranteed starts for every single guardian in the game.
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Shab posted:This is somewhat curbed by tank itemization being much, much more varied. No more Watcher's->Midas->Sovereignty guaranteed starts for every single guardian in the game. I was talking more about the likes of Herc and Vamana. I should have said warrior instead of tank.
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Started playing this recently and am having a good time. I usually suck at these types of games but with the control scheme I do much better than usual. My IGN is Antignostic if someone could invite me to the clan.
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Jan 27, 2015 02:43
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Dick Holden posted:Started playing this recently and am having a good time. I usually suck at these types of games but with the control scheme I do much better than usual. My IGN is Antignostic if someone could invite me to the clan. I just sent you an invite.
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Shab posted:This is somewhat curbed by tank itemization being much, much more varied. No more Watcher's->Midas->Sovereignty guaranteed starts for every single guardian in the game. Like I never start this way
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