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MourningView posted:Being comparable to Thomas Robinson is probably not exactly a positive from an NBA perspective. I know but TRob went 5. I'm just saying he probably will go lottery if he waits a year.
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roundmidnight posted:Is Kaminsky going in the lottery? I mean he seems to be an incredible college player but I have no idea how to project him in the NBA because I don't watch much college ball. He seemed to come out of nowhere last year. He won't go lottery unless someone is really desperate for shooting (there is not much of it in this class outside RJ Hunter), but he'll go in the first round. Someone will try to turn him into Channing Frye.
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Smorgasbord posted:Based on current standings, Philly own the 1st & 15th picks and 5(!) 2nd rounders this draft. 76ers also have 20 draft picks between now and 2020.
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roundmidnight posted:Is Kaminsky going in the lottery? I mean he seems to be an incredible college player but I have no idea how to project him in the NBA because I don't watch much college ball. He seemed to come out of nowhere last year. I'm really curious to see if he makes the transition to the NBA properly. He just seems so slow on court, and trying to imagine him playing at breakneck NBA speeds just isn't possible for me.
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Smorgasbord posted:Based on current standings, Philly own the 1st & 15th picks and 5(!) 2nd rounders this draft. Sixers have two 1st rounders this year? Cool. Where did the 15th overall come from?
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DOOP posted:Sixers have two 1st rounders this year? Cool. Where did the 15th overall come from? '2015 first round draft pick from Miami Miami's 1st round pick to Philadelphia (via Cleveland) protected for selections 1-10 in 2015 and 1-10 in 2016 and unprotected in 2017 [Cleveland-Miami, 7/9/2010; Cleveland-Minnesota-Philadelphia, 8/23/2014 Read more at http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed#Puijw6tpURrGKVUM.99' Must've been the Kevin Love trade where they sent out Thad Smorgasbord fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Jan 1, 2015 |
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Jan 1, 2015 20:21
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Thad young. Dumb trade by Minnesota.
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euphronius posted:Thad young. Dumb trade by Minnesota. We also dumped the Shved and Mbah A moute contracts in that trade
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Sixers just got a second round pick for Shved.
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IcePhoenix posted:We also dumped the Shved and Mbah A moute contracts in that trade 
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euphronius posted:Thad young. Dumb trade by Minnesota. Oh yeah. I don't expect the Miami pick to remain at 15 (or higher), but I hope it does
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DOOP posted:Oh yeah. I don't expect the Miami pick to remain at 15 (or higher), but I hope it does It's top 10 protected so you know, not too much higher I assume the Sixers are going to sell at least one if not more of those picks and trade them down the line for future seconds and/or marginal veterans from teams trying to shed salary.
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My latest draft crush is  Tyrone Wallace from Cal
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Reddit is going nuts over a dunk by that kid from Kansas in which he just sort of lowers his shoulder into a guy and then dunks, the Shaq Special. I've seen very little of the guy but he doesn't look like he has much basketball ability. He is a really good athlete but other than that I haven't seen him do a single thing. Is that accurate at all?
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He's a work in progress and needs another year, but to say he has very little actual ability is overstating it.
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Cliff does some things very well and some things not so well. He'll be a late first rounder if he jumps but I bet a lottery pick next year if he stays. He just dominated high school competition but needs to work on footwork and post moves and the little things because he doesn't know how to get shots off against guys who have greater length than him (see KU/UK debacle) yet and the NBA is full of those guys. Every game though we see many sparks of potential. Like that dunk or a monster block. He has a decent jumper, everybody is always surprised by that. Chad Ford posted:PREVIOUS RANK: No. 15 | PLAYER CARD
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Caris Levert out for the rest of the season. Probably doesn't affect his stock too too much. I'd keep an eye on Zak Irvin who's going to be receiving a ton of touches (not that he wasn't getting a decent workload to begin with). There's also Aubrey Dawkins who I thiiiink got promoted to the starting lineup but he's probably a marginal prospect at best (at a glance it looks like he can shoot). Please feel free to quote that when he starts dropping 30 a game.
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Kevon Looney is awful, and is DraftExpress' No. 11-ranked draft-eligible player. I can't reconcile this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03T4HYI_BGY good friendship and holy cow post spins
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EvanTH posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03T4HYI_BGY Got a little Jamison to his post game - spinning weakside into the defender that makes sense - which i like.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:Kevon Looney is awful, and is DraftExpress' No. 11-ranked draft-eligible player. I can't reconcile this. He's actually ninth, and he's shortlisted for the Wayman Tisdale Memorial Good Player and Smooth Jazz Bassist Award or w/e He rebounds really well and gets to the line at a pretty good clip. They're probably looking at him and thinking "yet another small rebounder/garbageman" which is a surprisingly successful mold in the NBA
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Part of the reason Looney is ranked where he is is that he was considered a better shooter out of high school.
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EvanTH posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03T4HYI_BGY I like this video only because the poster thought that a combined 36/9 was worth two exclamation points.
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Benne posted:Looks like Robert Upshaw just got a lot cheaper Larry Sanders 2.0
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D'angelo Russel is good fun to watch. How many crafty floaters can one man make per game?
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Benne posted:Looks like Robert Upshaw just got a lot cheaper Sounds like he is going to join the D-League, which actually might make him look better.
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Igor Strelkov posted:D'angelo Russel is good fun to watch. How many crafty floaters can one man make per game? Yeah he's pretty awesome. He can hit threes too. I don't see the point guard thing at all, but he's the best guard in the draft that I've actually seen play (which would exclude Muiday)
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MourningView posted:Yeah he's pretty awesome. He can hit threes too. I don't see the point guard thing at all, but he's the best guard in the draft that I've actually seen play (which would exclude Muiday) I agree. Every sg under 6'6 seems to get that pg/sg designation. Way too many of his passes bounce off of his bigs' hands. You could blame that on them, but a real point guard would probably figure out where his bigs could catch balls. He ignores his teammates to go for his own shot a lot too. I've watched a few cba streams for Mudiay. He's really athletic, he's really raw, when everything clicks he looks awesome but he also misses layups and throws passes to no one.
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Igor Strelkov posted:I agree. Every sg under 6'6 seems to get that pg/sg designation. Way too many of his passes bounce off of his bigs' hands. You could blame that on them, but a real point guard would probably figure out where his bigs could catch balls. He ignores his teammates to go for his own shot a lot too. Some of it is that, but a lot of it is that there are basically no good point guards in this draft other than Mudiay so teams are looking at him as one out of desperation.
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Some UK fans were spreading the rumor that Towns may stay for another year (based on probably bullshit Zimmerman rumors that UK slid to 3rd on his recruiting list). If that happens this draft will become real interesting, especially if Philly gets the #1 pick. I could see them trading that pick. The Lakers, for example, might mortgage their future to get Okafor considering the Kobe situation.
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kiimo posted:Some UK fans were spreading the rumor that Towns may stay for another year (based on probably bullshit Zimmerman rumors that UK slid to 3rd on his recruiting list). If that happens this draft will become real interesting, especially if Philly gets the #1 pick. I haven't heard this but I have no idea why he would. Isn't he the top rated pro player on the roster? Or is that WCS? I don't follow the draft too much. I once called Schroeder "a random euro dude" and look what that has gotten me.
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vikingstrike posted:I haven't heard this but I have no idea why he would. Isn't he the top rated pro player on the roster? Or is that WCS? I don't follow the draft too much. I once called Schroeder "a random euro dude" and look what that has gotten me. It's Towns by a pretty decent margin. WCS has played his way into Top 10 contention, but Towns is going to be at worst like the third guy off the board unless something crazy happens. He's not going to stay. At some point people will write a story about every good underclassman college player "considering staying another year" no matter how stupid and absurd it is. Wiggins and especially Parker both got it last year. Staying another year would just hurt him because Kentucky is never going to showcase him (especially if the Harrison twins are still on the roster and starting) and if you're getting drafted mostly on potential you need to get out as fast as possible before people start picking apart all the stuff you don't do. Which in his case is pretty much everything aside from rebound and block shots. MourningView fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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It's weird because Cliff Alexander is averaging almost identical points and rebounds as Towns but everyone is saying he'll improve in the draft with another year.
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Towns is way bigger and already flashes the ability to be an elite rim protector, which is really the primary thing most NBA teams want from their center these days. Plus he's competing with other highly regarded bigs for rebounds and between the hockey line shift bullshit they do and having to play a ton of minutes with a homeless man's dion waiters running the point he's not really showcased very well offensively. He was supposed to have had a much more well rounded game in high school.
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Yeah, comparing Alexander's stats with Towns' isn't a fair comparison. I do think Alexander is getting a bit of the short shrift and isn't as raw as some people making him out to be, but he'll be late first round if he goes this year when he could be a lottery pick the next. It's not often that Self post players regress as the years go by, and he's likely to have more of a role and more of a bolstered portfolio because of it.
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