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Moltrey posted:God, Part 7 is a lot of fun already. The open nature of a horse race really helps pacing. Events bleed into another and it feels like a grand journey. I know Stands become a big player later, but I really like how they are right now where those who do have them, don't quite know what they are and are called Cursed Men. They're kinda new and mysterious again. I also like that all of the fights so far are just Johnny and Gyro trying to figure out the gently caress is going on as they deal with weirdos just running up on them out of nowhere. Stands are also super toned back compared to part 6 and theres basically no punchghost stands in the entire arc, which I found really refreshing.
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that carries over to arc 8 as well, which is cool. jojolion also takes on more of a mystery kinda tone compared to steel ball run's action-oriented setting. they're both really good at keeping a steady pace and the characters are top-notch for different reasons.
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bonewitch posted:Stands are also super toned back compared to part 6 and theres basically no punchghost stands in the entire arc, which I found really refreshing. Yeah, it's a cool change of pace that really lends SBR to have its own, very distinct feel. Also Johnny is really sarcastic; I can't think of any other anime or manga character that is reqlly dry and deadpan. It's a very Western style of humor, which is cool to see in a manga.
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Feb 10, 2015 20:58
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Honestly, there's probably already been more punchghosting in JoJolion than the entirety of SBR, and JJL has been pretty light on straight up fights. The universe reset in general was a god-send to JoJo. Part 8 isn't quite SBR tier, but it's still drat good. e: universe reset in place of time skip. Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Feb 10, 2015 |
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Feb 10, 2015 20:59
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hoobajoo posted:Yeah, it's a cool change of pace that really lends SBR to have its own, very distinct feel. Also Johnny is really sarcastic; I can't think of any other anime or manga character that is reqlly dry and deadpan. It's a very Western style of humor, which is cool to see in a manga. Johnny is not sarcastic and enthusiastically laughs at all Gyro's jokes. 
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Feb 10, 2015 21:00
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johnny is an amazing jojo because on one hand you can make a lot of comparisons to johnathan and the like but on the other hand he is super ready to just throw down and kill a dude to the point where it freaks out gyro. in the meanwhile he just fucks around and jokes about things and the dynamic he has with gyro is really good.
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hoobajoo posted:Yeah, it's a cool change of pace that really lends SBR to have its own, very distinct feel. Also Johnny is really sarcastic; I can't think of any other anime or manga character that is reqlly dry and deadpan. It's a very Western style of humor, which is cool to see in a manga.  as heck.
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Feb 10, 2015 21:16
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Gyro is the best JoJo. It aint even close.
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Feb 10, 2015 21:19
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There's been 2 overt fights in Jojolion so far, Fun Fun Fun and I Am A Rock. Everything else has been a non-fight battle, which is probably my favorite thing about jojo's. WHAT'S THE MATTER, JOSUKE? TAKE A TISSUE!
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Feb 10, 2015 22:14
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YOUR NOSE IS BLEEDING, JOSUKE.
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Feb 10, 2015 22:14
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Personally, I love the non-fights in JoJolion. they’re just as tense as the straight-up battles, but are much more subdued and creative. A lot of the time you don’t even realize a stand battle is underway until the characters do, so it’s just as surprising / confusing to us reading it.
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Feb 10, 2015 22:20
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WARNING, GORE! WARNING, GORE!
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Feb 10, 2015 22:20
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I also really love how Araki managed to make a pathetic, useless in most ways guy like Speedwagon, but entirely unsympathetic and unlovable unlike Speedwagon. Joshuu is simultaneously great and really lovely and it owns.
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bonewitch posted:Johnny is not sarcastic and enthusiastically laughs at all Gyro's jokes. I'm sorry but no. Also, I want to echo the sentiment that the new approach to Stands is really good and cool. Punchghosts ruled for long enough, using really weird abilities to outwit others is awesome.
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bonewitch posted:Johnny is not sarcastic and enthusiastically laughs at all Gyro's jokes. This post right here is sarcasm.
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Feb 10, 2015 23:13
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I want to see the universe where Gyro survives and Johnny finds he has to actually form a band with him.
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Kabanaw posted:There's been 2 overt fights in Jojolion so far, Fun Fun Fun and I Am A Rock. Everything else has been a non-fight battle, which is probably my favorite thing about jojo's. Speaking of the guy who had Fun Fun Fun... I wonder what was up with the original Kira's Stand? His sister says he could create exploding bubbles, but the Fun Fun Fun dude says Kira made him eat his own fingers somehow. These two abilities don't seem to correlate all that much. I wonder if someone's lying, or we're in for a surprise. ...or Araki settled for something else midway and it doesn't mean anything.
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Torquemadras posted:Speaking of the guy who had Fun Fun Fun... I wonder what was up with the original Kira's Stand? Nah, Kira just convinced a drunk dude to eat his own fingers, nothing more nothing less.
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Torquemadras posted:Speaking of the guy who had Fun Fun Fun... I wonder what was up with the original Kira's Stand? Maybe he severed his fingers with exploding bubbles and then he made him eat them?
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Feb 11, 2015 00:00
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Like how being a jojo in JJBA automatically makes you a heroic protagonist, being a Kira automatically makes you feel hosed up things about hands
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Does part 7 have the biggest kill count by the protagonists?
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Feb 11, 2015 00:28
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No protagonist makes it out alive. Except the Steels if you count them. Johnny almost did until Jojolion came and smashed his head in.
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No, I meant how many people the protagonists kill.
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Feb 11, 2015 01:00
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I'm pretty sure the part 5 crew killed literally everyone they faced.
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Sometimes they tortured them first.
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Part 3 has a pretty high body count when you realize how many people were left for dead or otherwise had no plausible way of surviving, like Wheel of Fortune or Dark Blue Moon.
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hoobajoo posted:Part 3 has a pretty high body count when you realize how many people were left for dead or otherwise had no plausible way of surviving, like Wheel of Fortune or Dark Blue Moon. Dark Blue Moon definitely died given that his head was sliced in two
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FirstAidKite posted:Dark Blue Moon definitely died given that his head was sliced in two I couldn't remember if he clearly died, or was just knocked out and presumably drowned off screen. Either way, the Crusaders murder a ton of their enemies.
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hoobajoo posted:I couldn't remember if he clearly died, or was just knocked out and presumably drowned off screen. Either way, the Crusaders murder a ton of their enemies. To be honest, I found it more surprising going through stardust crusaders and seeing how many they didn't murder. There are a surprising amount who are just knocked out even after sustaining life threatening injuries like having your face blown up or being shot in the head.
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Butt Ghost posted:No protagonist makes it out alive. Except the Steels if you count them. Johnny almost did until Jojolion came and smashed his head in. Speaking of, Josuke supposedly died after part 4, right?
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Everybody died except for Rohan and possibly Giorno.
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FirstAidKite posted:To be honest, I found it more surprising going through stardust crusaders and seeing how many they didn't murder. There are a surprising amount who are just knocked out even after sustaining life threatening injuries like having your face blown up or being shot in the head. It seems like the Stardust Crusaders only kill people who attack bystanders. The only exception I remember was Vanilla Ice, who had succeeded in killing two of the Stardust Crusaders and who Polnareff had no way to defeat nonlethally. Edit: They also left Alessi alive even though he'd attacked a random woman. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Feb 11, 2015 |
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FirstAidKite posted:To be honest, I found it more surprising going through stardust crusaders and seeing how many they didn't murder. There are a surprising amount who are just knocked out even after sustaining life threatening injuries like having your face blown up or being shot in the head. Yeah here's a list from when I got called out for posting the same thing about most of the SC antagonists dying. MonsterEnvy posted:To this comment in the Anime thread here are what happened to all Part 3 Villains in order. I still think they left some of them to die like ZZ and Arabia Fats.
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Tobaccrow posted:Chaka survived? That's exactly what I thought when I dug up that post but I guess his wound only immobilized him.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Speaking of, Josuke supposedly died after part 4, right?
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hoobajoo posted:I couldn't remember if he clearly died, or was just knocked out and presumably drowned off screen. Either way, the Crusaders murder a ton of their enemies. If he didn't die from the head slice or drowning, he definitely died considering that Jotaro left him bleeding out in shark infested water. Silver2195 posted:It seems like the Stardust Crusaders only kill people who attack bystanders. The only exception I remember was Vanilla Ice, who had succeeded in killing two of the Stardust Crusaders and who Polnareff had no way to defeat nonlethally. Rubber Soul, too.
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Broseph Brostar posted:That's exactly what I thought when I dug up that post but I guess his wound only immobilized him. Uh, didn't he get Polnareff's sword through his neck?
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Another thing I like about SBR and from what I know about JoJolion it also does this, is that it feels more like a serial drama. Previous parts had an overarching story, but they were mostly vehicles for fights until the characters managed to track down the villain. SBR seems to be building up a lot more and developing things slower. The whole first ten chapters are all the first stage of the race and introducing characters and the Steel Balls, then there's a whole chapter to Steven Steel's silly backstory, then the Boom family murder happens and Mountain Tim is brought into the spotlight. Before we even meet the Boom family, there's a whole chapter of fighting some completely different guy. It all feels really episodic and building off past chapters and not just Stand of the Week with some goofy poo poo happening. Throughout all this, Johnny is slowly learning the Spin and learning more about Gyro. It all comes together really well and I am so excited to read more knowing that it gets even better. I know JoJolion has a whole mystery going on and answers are slowly being revealed and I really hope Araki can stick that landing. JoJo is good.
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